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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 28, 2017 21:35:57 GMT -5
The point of the thread (or at least the point which I proved) was that you didn't actually need to get dash bots, shocktrains, ember, etc. to win in matches. I'm not really sure how we got into this mess
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 28, 2017 21:46:34 GMT -5
The point of the thread (or at least the point which I proved) was that you didn't actually need to get dash bots, shocktrains, ember, etc. to win in matches. I'm not really sure how we got into this mess difference in understanding and meaning of the phrase " Pay to win"
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Post by mechw4rrior on Nov 28, 2017 22:38:26 GMT -5
Win in the P2W does not mean win/lose per individual battle but as in win the game (reach Champion league in current meta - kbots and shocktrains). For example, a player had reached Diamond League with his lv. 9/9 hangar and continued to play and upgrade without pay will be stuck in Exp/Master League. However, he decided to PAY for a max hangar (lv. 12 MK2 kbots and shocktrains) and for sure he will reach Champion League.
This is my take on the phrase P2W.
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Post by krebby on Nov 28, 2017 22:59:37 GMT -5
Win in the P2W does not mean win/lose per individual battle but as in win the game (reach Champion league in current meta - kbots and shocktrains). For example, a player had reached Diamond League with his lv. 9/9 hangar and continued to play and upgrade without pay will be stuck in Exp/Master League. However, he decided to PAY for a max hangar (lv. 12 MK2 kbots and shocktrains) and for sure he will reach Champion League. This is my take on the phrase P2W. Your take on the meaning of "pay-to-win" is analogous to everyone else's, with one exception: the opening poster.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 29, 2017 3:41:26 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how we got into this mess Somebody tried to be too clever and decided to tell everyone the game wasn't really P2W because even if you didn't pay, you'd still win once in a while. And even if you did pay, you'd still lose once in a while. And that same somebody failed to realize that nobody agreed, because nobody takes the term "P2W" as literally buying wins; it merely buys a massively increased likelihood of winning. Except, apparently, for our thread OP. Who has now conveniently taken a hiatus from posting in this thread, possibly having realized the magnitude of his error. So, long story short, somebody tried to split hairs over terminology and wound up getting a thesaurus thrown at his head.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 29, 2017 4:46:10 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how we got into this mess Somebody tried to be too clever and decided to tell everyone the game wasn't really P2W because even if you didn't pay, you'd still win once in a while. And even if you did pay, you'd still lose once in a while. And that same somebody failed to realize that nobody agreed, because nobody takes the term "P2W" as literally buying wins; it merely buys a massively increased likelihood of winning. Except, apparently, for our thread OP. Who has now conveniently taken a hiatus from posting in this thread, possibly having realized the magnitude of his error. So, long story short, somebody tried to split hairs over terminology and wound up getting a thesaurus thrown at his head. he's probably under is pillow saying why?! why!? why?! I wish I had time machine and go back and in time to fix everythin now I have embarrassed myself!
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Post by fallguy99 on Nov 29, 2017 4:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 29, 2017 7:03:57 GMT -5
Somebody tried to be too clever and decided to tell everyone the game wasn't really P2W because even if you didn't pay, you'd still win once in a while. And even if you did pay, you'd still lose once in a while. And that same somebody failed to realize that nobody agreed, because nobody takes the term "P2W" as literally buying wins; it merely buys a massively increased likelihood of winning. Except, apparently, for our thread OP. Who has now conveniently taken a hiatus from posting in this thread, possibly having realized the magnitude of his error. So, long story short, somebody tried to split hairs over terminology and wound up getting a thesaurus thrown at his head. he's probably under is pillow saying why?! why!? why?! I wish I had time machine and go back and in time to fix everythin now I have embarrassed myself! That's right! Proving a point he mentioned why would he regret it, I wonder?
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 29, 2017 8:26:59 GMT -5
he's probably under is pillow saying why?! why!? why?! I wish I had time machine and go back and in time to fix everythin now I have embarrassed myself! That's right! Proving a point he mentioned why would he regret it, I wonder? Yup he went back to his corner and reevaluated about life and though why shouldn't have created this thread in the first place. Time will pass and he will know.
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Post by moflete on Nov 30, 2017 9:30:42 GMT -5
So you don't think you would win more if you replaced, e.g., your Leo and/or Hover for Mk2 Haechis with Mk2 Shocktrains? "blah, blah, blah...... is not the primary cause of my success. blah, blah, blah". So, you say you spent tremendous amounts of real money on this thing AND you are just at Masters level AND you did not buy the currently most powerful stuff around? Please, tell us the ancient secret to your success...... Hold on a sec.... I'll get my popcorn
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Post by moflete on Nov 30, 2017 9:37:37 GMT -5
What I think is: Today we have War Robots 1.0 and War Robots 2.0. The second is reserved for top MKII / Cash Bots / Ember / Shocktrain clans. If you want to remain competitive in that 2.0 Olympus in the near future, you will have to spend RM. A lot. Otherwise, for the non-spenders, they can navigate randomly in the leagues, caught in the "50% win rate" Big Brother tells you. IF you come across any of the 2.0 Whales in a given battle (thanks to MM), you (individually) will just be unable to face real competition against such whales. IF your team wins that game, it will be the result of a combination of many factors (most probably, there will also be whales within the blues) and you will not be within such factors (just take a look at the damage numbers after any such battles).
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Nov 30, 2017 9:46:21 GMT -5
Why? Why let these three interchangeable sockpuppets jerk your chains for three pages. They're not worth it.
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 30, 2017 14:07:38 GMT -5
"blah, blah, blah...... is not the primary cause of my success. blah, blah, blah". So, you say you spent tremendous amounts of real money on this thing AND you are just at Masters level AND you did not buy the currently most powerful stuff around? Please, tell us the ancient secret to your success...... Hold on a sec.... I'll get my popcorn Skills my friend, the rank (or title) of Master can only be earned (that why they say Master Yoda, Master Aceboy44, etc.) You can not buy that title with money. Now regarding the most powerful stuff, kindly tell me which is the most powerful stuff since I spent RM buying fury with 3 zeus and upgrading them to level 12.......
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Post by moflete on Nov 30, 2017 14:39:20 GMT -5
So, you say you spent tremendous amounts of real money on this thing AND you are just at Masters level AND you did not buy the currently most powerful stuff around? Please, tell us the ancient secret to your success...... Hold on a sec.... I'll get my popcorn Skills my friend, the rank (or title) of Master can only be earned (that why they say Master Yoda, Master Aceboy44, etc.) You can not buy that title with money. Now regarding the most powerful stuff, kindly tell me which is the most powerful stuff since I spent RM buying fury with 3 zeus and upgrading them to level 12....... But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master.
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Post by ernstuebermuth on Nov 30, 2017 18:49:42 GMT -5
Hey guys, I think the OPness of all the Haechi/Shocktrain/MK2 stuff is flatting out slowly. Yes, the game is definitely going to move towards paying, but there are levels of paying. I play War Robots since spring 2016, reached champion league this summer, average 300 or 400 activity per week, mostly going solo, android. So guess that I face pretty much of the top tier guys / whales. And yeah... what can I say? Its quite ok, its still enjoyable admittedly I dont get the gold that easy as I used to pre-MM-update, pre-leagues, pre-dashes - but I still get it here and there. I was never this kind of heavy damage dealer or camper, more a tactical brawler/beacon capper. My current primary setup is build around 2 ork rogs, 1 pdb griff, 1 rdb griff, 1 tarancilot. I even never cared about maxing my hangar out, my highest upgrade is the tarancilot at 11/11, the other are all partly 10/11 (as I love diversity, I have upgraded plenty other bots/weapon at lvl 9 for cheap) I couldnt even afford it anyway, as I have only pay 1 mounth for premium until now. My skills were enough to compensate for the 20% advantage of the other maxed contrahents up to champion league. So yeah, just until now... although I can still survive and give a punch in most matches, the upcoming of MK2 made the gap too big to ignore, so now I have started to bring all of my primary hangar to lvl 11 or max it out (MK2 is out of reach), additionally saving for a second hangar. This all made it neccesary to get myself a premium account again (I just purchased 3 mounth at one time get some gold bonusses). So, up until now I spent around 50 USD for War Robots, which is ok for me to pay the bills of the developers for creating an entertaining experience. So, yeah, the new situation forced me to pay, finally but hey, i was playing it for over a year without any need to do so. In other words, I payed a REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. Anyway "reasonable amount" might be also 1000$ for another person, I think I just dont need. About the new weapons and bots, I dont see that I need them right away. Hahaha, I am still busy to upgrade my existing stuff and there are plenty of tools to handle them, and the best one is oldschool brain.
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Post by Domino on Nov 30, 2017 22:22:51 GMT -5
Hey guys, I think the OPness of all the Haechi/Shocktrain/MK2 stuff is flatting out slowly. Yes, the game is definitely going to move towards paying, but there are levels of paying. I play War Robots since spring 2016, reached champion league this summer, average 300 or 400 activity per week, mostly going solo, android. So guess that I face pretty much of the top tier guys / whales. And yeah... what can I say? Its quite ok, its still enjoyable admittedly I dont get the gold that easy as I used to pre-MM-update, pre-leagues, pre-dashes - but I still get it here and there. I was never this kind of heavy damage dealer or camper, more a tactical brawler/beacon capper. My current primary setup is build around 2 ork rogs, 1 pdb griff, 1 rdb griff, 1 tarancilot. I even never cared about maxing my hangar out, my highest upgrade is the tarancilot at 11/11, the other are all partly 10/11 (as I love diversity, I have upgraded plenty other bots/weapon at lvl 9 for cheap) I couldnt even afford it anyway, as I have only pay 1 mounth for premium until now. My skills were enough to compensate for the 20% advantage of the other maxed contrahents up to champion league. So yeah, just until now... although I can still survive and give a punch in most matches, the upcoming of MK2 made the gap too big to ignore, so now I have started to bring all of my primary hangar to lvl 11 or max it out (MK2 is out of reach), additionally saving for a second hangar. This all made it neccesary to get myself a premium account again (I just purchased 3 mounth at one time get some gold bonusses). So, up until now I spent around 50 USD for War Robots, which is ok for me to pay the bills of the developers for creating an entertaining experience. So, yeah, the new situation forced me to pay, finally but hey, i was playing it for over a year without any need to do so. In other words, I payed a REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. Anyway "reasonable amount" might be also 1000$ for another person, I think I just dont need. About the new weapons and bots, I dont see that I need them right away. Hahaha, I am still busy to upgrade my existing stuff and there are plenty of tools to handle them, and the best one is oldschool brain. Playing decent+ with the MM points will move you up slowly. The game is geared to getting you 50% wins. Since wins give.more.points then loses you will move up. However you will always be shrimp for the whales. Always... Not because thier better than you, because if you trade 3 of your hit with 1 of thiers? Thier hits do 4-5 times more DMG plus more HP with mk2 bots. Hanging in with them means spending at this point. Sooner or later you'll catch up. Might take 6 months, might take 1 year. Who knows what will be the next money grab move Pixonic puts out that will make that buffer that much harder to achieve. Carot in front of the donkey. Unless you pay big, you can't have that carot
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Post by aceboy44 on Dec 1, 2017 0:07:17 GMT -5
Skills my friend, the rank (or title) of Master can only be earned (that why they say Master Yoda, Master Aceboy44, etc.) You can not buy that title with money. Now regarding the most powerful stuff, kindly tell me which is the most powerful stuff since I spent RM buying fury with 3 zeus and upgrading them to level 12....... But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title.
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Post by T34 on Dec 1, 2017 0:34:51 GMT -5
But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title. Buy a haechi and Bulgie and your score will got to 1.713M. But hang on, that would mean you bought the 1.7M?
But hang on again. Are you actually saying that you earned the title because of your skills as evidenced by the lack of dashes/OP weapons? And more importantly are you saying if you would have bought the OP content you could have been accused of buying your title?
So only the price remains now. "I used that to buy items any one can buy" - why cant you buy a hanger of dashbots? are they too expensive? Ofcourse they are and you know that.
What have you to say???
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Post by Domino on Dec 1, 2017 8:58:41 GMT -5
But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title. Before you place that huge chip on your shoulder, just know it take 1 bot to make a super high score. I have seen this with my own two eyes. 3 hangar setup, person has 1xlvl 12 Fury/3xlvl 12 Zeus, high score around 1.4 mill. the other 2 bots are level 8/9. Sitting in Expert. I've seen other similar in Master with 3 or 4 bots at level 9/10 having high score that you, because of 1 bot. usually a Fury/Treb, Butch/Treb, Fury Zeus, etc. You are seeing high scores of 2+ million. Avg dmg 1.2+ ALL of them have OP gear. Old timers have even said these levels were NEVER obtainable until Dash/Ember/Shocktrain/MK2 came into existence. Guy playing this game for years. What you have is nothing special, sorry to say. I'd have you on my team any day but please don't think your god in this game
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Post by moflete on Dec 1, 2017 9:59:07 GMT -5
But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title. So you basically threw a lot of RM into a mobile game to purchase things that are for free? I have substantially the same equipment, made around 1.2m in damage and above 1m around 10 times and never spent a dime..... You are absolutely in the middle of the pack in terms of skills. What I can assure, my Master, is that your skills are making you very successful in your battle against intelligence. Hope to see you within the reds shortly. Cheers.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Dec 1, 2017 11:10:00 GMT -5
But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title. So in your view, you spent money to speed progress, not to enable progress. You are where you are because of your skill, not your gear, and honestly you're very unimpressed with the DEISS gear you've encountered. Know why that is? Because many/most of those players DID simply buy their way to where they are! They don't have much skill; they're real tigers, but they're domesticated cats with little experience hunting. Turn one loose and it's big and scary and dangerous, but nowhere near so much as a tiger born in the wild. Hold that thought. Regardless of what percentage of players have done so to this point, it is POSSIBLE to spend a crap-ton of $$$ and buy a hangar that will easily allow you to compete in the upper levels. How good you are will determine how well you do, but that gear, assuming the user isn't a complete joke, offers the ability for new players to COMPETE with Champion enemies who have been playing for years. And, unless the old hand has his/her own DEISS gear, he won't score a quick, decisive win. If the new player has any semblance of a brain, the match will be closely fought and will very likely go to the newbie. And once that new player learns how to be deadly efficient with his gear... The longtime player won't stand a chance unless he buys his own new toys. Have you not seen what these mechs are capable of in the right hands? That's the whole point of this: They have a much higher performance ceiling than other mechs in the game, plus they don't require much skill so their floor is higher than many mech's ceilings! Lancelot is the only mech in the game that comes close to the DEISS mechs, and the Lance has the glaring drawback of being as slow as a speeding tortoise. This is the simple fact: skill being equal, DEISS gear will defeat non-DEISS gear. Easily. If you're beating up on DEISS with non-DEISS gear, you haven't encountered the true monsters yet. They are out there. And no amount of skill will allow you to defeat one with anything less than a Haechi or Bulg. Also...2m is the new 1m. Just saying. After Mk2 being introduced especially; now maxed Mk2 hangars have 20% more HP than formerly. Meaning there's a whole lot more damage points to go round.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 1, 2017 12:08:24 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how we got into this mess Somebody tried to be too clever and decided to tell everyone the game wasn't really P2W because even if you didn't pay, you'd still win once in a while. And even if you did pay, you'd still lose once in a while. And that same somebody failed to realize that nobody agreed, because nobody takes the term "P2W" as literally buying wins; it merely buys a massively increased likelihood of winning. Except, apparently, for our thread OP. Who has now conveniently taken a hiatus from posting in this thread, possibly having realized the magnitude of his error. So, long story short, somebody tried to split hairs over terminology and wound up getting a thesaurus thrown at his head. Ferris Bueller Ron Gaul, you're my hero.
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Post by inspirace on Dec 1, 2017 12:18:57 GMT -5
But....... you said you spent tremendous amounts of money, which is, in other words, the definition of buying your Masters title and not earning it through skills...... I must say you made me laugh, Master Aceboy. Here it goes (needless to say, for free, my Master): MKII shocktrain / orkan / taran haechi or bulgasary - Taran / Ember inquisitor, shocktrain bulgasari. Considering your "skills", keep $5,000 and you may make it to champions! XD May the Pix be with you, my Master. My skills not only advanced me to the Master league, but also gave me 1.213M damage with 0 dash/OP weapon in my hanger. Regarding my expenditures, I used that to buy items any one can buy (Zeus, Orkans, Gekko, etc.) and used the money to speed upgrade it. I never used my money to buy those underwhelming dash bots/OP bots. Oh and did I mention that part of my 1.213M damage in the master league came from the hover bot, as opposed to Haechi, Bulgasei, Inquisitor, etc.? I earned the title and didn't buy it. Unless I have those dash bots/OP weapons, you have no right to say I bought my title. do you mean 1.213M average damage? then I am so interested, kudos, can you show your hangar? and why are you not in Champion’s league already? if you meant max damage, than you know, with a paying hangar people can do that much on average, almost in every battle ... and yes, sometimes just with one or two bots,
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 3, 2017 7:32:30 GMT -5
But just "Pay-To-Win is complete horse manure. No comment necessary. This is FB Gameroom, and the guy was _not_ squading.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Dec 3, 2017 7:36:08 GMT -5
Is this seriously a 3 page thread because someone misunderstood what is implied by "Pay to win" ? Dear god.
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Post by hyderier on Dec 3, 2017 9:14:39 GMT -5
How about we let this thread die? There is one or two guys who insist that their definition of P2W is the correct one, and everybody should switch. And then everybody else trying to explain their error, which they refuse to see. Probably because they are trolling, possibly because they are... special.
There's nothing to add to this. Just drop it. And avoid being dragged into the same discussion, when these guys insist on their personal definition in other threads.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 9:54:14 GMT -5
Noooo, this thread is golden! Please don’t let it die! (For the record, “golden” means that I enjoy it, not that it’s, errrrhm, you know, actually made of, or covered in, real gold)
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Post by aceboy44 on Dec 3, 2017 10:03:48 GMT -5
How about we let this thread die? There is one or two guys who insist that their definition of P2W is the correct one, and everybody should switch. And then everybody else trying to explain their error, which they refuse to see. Probably because they are trolling, possibly because they are... special. There's nothing to add to this. Just drop it. And avoid being dragged into the same discussion, when these guys insist on their personal definition in other threads. PROVE to me that this is a P2W game. I have proven to you that it's not
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 3, 2017 10:47:07 GMT -5
How about we let this thread die? There is one or two guys who insist that their definition of P2W is the correct one, and everybody should switch. And then everybody else trying to explain their error, which they refuse to see. Probably because they are trolling, possibly because they are... special. There's nothing to add to this. Just drop it. And avoid being dragged into the same discussion, when these guys insist on their personal definition in other threads. PROVE to me that this is a P2W game. I have proven to you that it's not Showing a video of doing well for a game or two does not prove anything. If I spent $3000 right now to get five mk ii level 12 shock train Haechi, I would win 95% of my matches from that point on. That is pay to win. Keep in mind, your "proof" of the game not being P2W is you using your $50 bot against their $200 bots. Every participant in that scenario paid, so whatever the outcome, payment led to the result.
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Post by hyderier on Dec 3, 2017 11:13:52 GMT -5
PROVE to me that this is a P2W game. I have proven to you that it's not Showing a video of doing well for a game or two does not prove anything. If I spent $3000 right now to get five mk ii level 12 shock train Haechi, I would win 95% of my matches from that point on. That is pay to win. Keep in mind, your "proof" of the game not being P2W is you using your $50 bot against their $200 bots. Every participant in that scenario paid, so whatever the outcome, payment led to the result. Just let it go... That has been said a dozen times, and they will just come back and try to get more people to respond with the same. Well, unless you actually enjoy this argument, then whatever turns your crank...
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