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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 15:49:53 GMT -5
So you don't think you would win more if you replaced, e.g., your Leo and/or Hover for Mk2 Haechis with Mk2 Shocktrains? As I mentioned, doing what you just said would increase (or facilitate) my chances of winning, but is not the primary cause of my success. Once again, I made it to Master league with no OP/weapons in my hanger. I did face a alot of dash bots, and lost many battles too. It was annoying, and I thought of giving up, but I wanted to prove to all War Robots players than you can advance in the leagues with no OP item in your hanger. If I can do it, you can too Now stop whining folks and kick some noob that relay on OP stuff with whatever you have in your hanger. Act as if you were the last Samurai standing against the forces of evil I've given up hope that skill will be acknowledged. At first it was exciting to face the new bots and weapons, as it forced me to improve if I wanted to keep up with legacy bots and only 9.2/10.5 at the time. But now Expert is filled with near max hangers, and still low skill. Even some have lots of Kbots and same results. Shocktrain is the most OP, but I see squads splitting their forces up, and only exposing one of them if they are a pair so that the dmg is minimized. Basically Shocktrain becomes a weaker Zeus (80% dmg I think) with only 500m range. I think it will settle, and when everyone gets higher levels and better gear like the Whales, then it will be obvious. I won't level up to 14/14 like another Youtuber who said the same thing. The disparity is so great now in skill, you would need even more OP bots and weapons for them to catch up.
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Nov 27, 2017 15:56:28 GMT -5
You are taking the term too literally. "Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning" is really what it means. It's just too damn long to say. Hell if people will write that. Hey @everyone, just for fun, let's all start calling it that from now on, "Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning." I think it'd be a riot YIPPEEE!!!
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Post by krebby on Nov 27, 2017 16:04:46 GMT -5
Thank you sir. You explained it better than I did. As to the naysayers, yes, there ARE people who take "Pay-to-Win" literally. And using that BS term over and over again just causes new people to give up any hope of ever winning a game. I don't own one dash bot and I win. Yes, I have purchased some stuff from Pixonic. But nothing that would give the impression I am trying to P2W. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there. I do see plenty of dash bots, and quite honestly, with the Facebook teams I am on, they don't give a lot of problems. People spot, them, focus fire on them and eliminate them. No big deal. I really have no urge to go to the top league because I haven't got the time or inclination to invest in the game. And as long as they aren't paying out cash to win in that level, screw it. I will agree 100% with Ace's final statement..." Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues." VERY well said. I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating.
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Post by Dejnov on Nov 27, 2017 16:14:10 GMT -5
I'm not going to bother reading the replies (or critics) to the OP. However, I thought about creating a similar thread to this one in the Tips & Advice section. I 100% agree with the OP that "Pay to Win" ideology is completely, utterly ridiculous, and is used only by the noobs. Pay to increase your chances of winning would be more accurate in this case and I am a perfect example for this. I will not deny the fact that I have spent tremendous amount of cash on this game, however, if you look at my hanger then you will notice that I earned the rank of Master with 0 dash/OP bot, and 0 MKII/OP weapons in my hanger. I earned this rank with my hard work by combining my skills with the team I was placed in. Believe it or not, I have taken several dash bots, Rhinos, and even lancelots with my Hover bot using my skills. When I was in college my professor used to tell us: "A champion team will beat a team of champions." Boy! Now I understand what he meant. Once again, I fully support the OP's post. Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there.
I was spot on!!
You have no 「fluffernutter」ing clue what you're talking about. The fact that you're opening argument was semantics and not intent, agency, or value was an indication, but thank you for stating it clearly.
First, learn to actually play the game... then play the meta game... then have an opinion.
Dejnov.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 27, 2017 16:24:31 GMT -5
I'm not going to bother reading the replies (or critics) to the OP. However, I thought about creating a similar thread to this one in the Tips & Advice section. I 100% agree with the OP that "Pay to Win" ideology is completely, utterly ridiculous, and is used only by the noobs. Pay to increase your chances of winning would be more accurate in this case and I am a perfect example for this. I will not deny the fact that I have spent tremendous amount of cash on this game, however, if you look at my hanger then you will notice that I earned the rank of Master with 0 dash/OP bot, and 0 MKII/OP weapons in my hanger. I earned this rank with my hard work by combining my skills with the team I was placed in. Believe it or not, I have taken several dash bots, Rhinos, and even lancelots with my Hover bot using my skills. When I was in college my professor used to tell us: "A champion team will beat a team of champions." Boy! Now I understand what he meant. Once again, I fully support the OP's post. Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues. Thank you sir. You explained it better than I did. As to the naysayers, yes, there ARE people who take "Pay-to-Win" literally. And using that BS term over and over again just causes new people to give up any hope of ever winning a game. I don't own one dash bot and I win. Yes, I have purchased some stuff from Pixonic. But nothing that would give the impression I am trying to P2W. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there. I do see plenty of dash bots, and quite honestly, with the Facebook teams I am on, they don't give a lot of problems. People spot, them, focus fire on them and eliminate them. No big deal. I really have no urge to go to the top league because I haven't got the time or inclination to invest in the game. And as long as they aren't paying out cash to win in that level, screw it. I will agree 100% with Ace's final statement..." Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues." VERY well said. Buddy, you just shot any semblance of credibility you might’ve had in the head. Not the foot. HEAD. So you’re in FB Gameroom - the platform that is NOT iOS or Android and bears little resemblance to either one. And you’ve been playing for 3 weeks, yet you’re telling 3-YEAR veterans they’re losing because they have no skill. And lastly, you’re in Silver tier. That’s a trifecta of issues that completely rips the tattered shreds of the carpet out from under your feet. I’ll give you a little example. The only account I currently run is my secondary iOS account. All my gear is L5 to L6. I can play and win quite easily on that account; in fact I win far more often than I lose. And when or lose, I am usually at the top or among the top three damage dealers. Bear in mind, I am also in silver tier on my respective platform; The enemies I routinely defeat are equipped anywhere from 2 to 4 levels higher than my gear. And even on iOS, that gameplay is nothing like what happens when you reach platinum or expert. Unlike you, I speak from personal experience. You’ve seen nothing yet. You know nothing, Jon Snow. I suggest you stop before you dig your hole any deeper.
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Post by _psychø on Nov 27, 2017 16:28:44 GMT -5
If you think that a full dash hanger, all maxed and MK2 isn't a reason that can make you win (way) more often than a player with level 10 Griffins, then oh well, that's enough War Robots for me today although I didn't even play!
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Post by Doomsf on Nov 27, 2017 16:37:00 GMT -5
Dont forget there is an in squad competetion, who will get the most dmg and caps!
Its p2w, cuase the player with dash and/or shocktrain and/or mk2, would be almost always the top of his team win or lose.
If he always top on his team, this mean he pay to win over his team m8s also. Preventing the f2p players to get gold/keys/silver.
And the most important thing the game will be iddqd boring and many will just walk in battles doing almost nothing and then quit!
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Post by inspirace on Nov 27, 2017 17:54:47 GMT -5
Thank you sir. You explained it better than I did. As to the naysayers, yes, there ARE people who take "Pay-to-Win" literally. And using that BS term over and over again just causes new people to give up any hope of ever winning a game. I don't own one dash bot and I win. Yes, I have purchased some stuff from Pixonic. But nothing that would give the impression I am trying to P2W. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there. I do see plenty of dash bots, and quite honestly, with the Facebook teams I am on, they don't give a lot of problems. People spot, them, focus fire on them and eliminate them. No big deal. I really have no urge to go to the top league because I haven't got the time or inclination to invest in the game. And as long as they aren't paying out cash to win in that level, screw it. I will agree 100% with Ace's final statement..." Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues." VERY well said. I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating. I also notice in another thread he asked what happen once the workshop level reached the max. deputy666 you were a bit too early with this thread, but welcome to the game and the forum (wait, you are a Boa in the forum? in three weeks?)
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 27, 2017 17:57:56 GMT -5
Thank you sir. You explained it better than I did. As to the naysayers, yes, there ARE people who take "Pay-to-Win" literally. And using that BS term over and over again just causes new people to give up any hope of ever winning a game. I don't own one dash bot and I win. Yes, I have purchased some stuff from Pixonic. But nothing that would give the impression I am trying to P2W. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there. I do see plenty of dash bots, and quite honestly, with the Facebook teams I am on, they don't give a lot of problems. People spot, them, focus fire on them and eliminate them. No big deal. I really have no urge to go to the top league because I haven't got the time or inclination to invest in the game. And as long as they aren't paying out cash to win in that level, screw it. I will agree 100% with Ace's final statement..." Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues." VERY well said. Buddy, you just shot any semblance of credibility you might’ve had in the head. Not the foot. HEAD. So you’re in FB Gameroom - the platform that is NOT iOS or Android and bears little resemblance to either one. And you’ve been playing for 3 weeks, yet you’re telling 3-YEAR veterans they’re losing because they have no skill. And lastly, you’re in Silver tier. That’s a trifecta of issues that completely rips the tattered shreds of the carpet out from under your feet. I’ll give you a little example. The only account I currently run is my secondary iOS account. All my gear is L5 to L6. I can play and win quite easily on that account; in fact I win far more often than I lose. And when or lose, I am usually at the top or among the top three damage dealers. Bear in mind, I am also in silver tier on my respective platform; The enemies I routinely defeat are equipped anywhere from 2 to 4 levels higher than my gear. And even on iOS, that gameplay is nothing like what happens when you reach platinum or expert. Unlike you, I speak from personal experience. You’ve seen nothing yet. You know nothing, Jon Snow. I suggest you stop before you dig your hole any deeper. Pal, you take this GAME way too seriously. It's a freaking GAME. I have as much right as anyone to post my opinion. If you don't like it, tough toenails. Veterans? OMG...you HAVE to be joking. Newsflash, but this is NOT real warfare. Nobody playing this GAME is even close to being a "veteran'. They may have more time playing the game, but that's it. you don't have to kiss their posterior to make them feel good and to improve your standing with them. Most of them are just kids anyway. I never brought up SKILL. I simply said that this GAME is NOT "Pay-to-Win". As others have pointed out, you can win or lose with the very best bots available. There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. That was my point that obviously flew over your head. You may think you have made some kind of great accomplishment in your life being good at a GAME. Sorry, but War Robots is not going to put any bread on the table or pay your rent or car note...if you are even old enough to drive. I really couldn't care less about your "accounts". Means zero to me. Do me a favor. Next time, just ignore my post. It is obviously way too complex for you to understand.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 27, 2017 18:02:44 GMT -5
I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating. I also notice in another thread he asked what happen once the workshop level reached the max. deputy666 you were a bit too early with this thread, but welcome to the game and the forum (wait, you are a Boa in the forum? in three weeks?) Not sure what any of those giant caps matters. My point was the game is NOT "Pay-to-Win". Even if I only played one game, the point still stands. And thanks for the warm welcome. And yes, I like the game and posting to the forum.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 27, 2017 18:14:10 GMT -5
Lol... deputy666, you’re the one splitting hairs no one else would. And you’re also the one who resorted first to throwing personal insults around, with the remark intended to disparage my credibility due to immaturity. Making personal attacks is never a good idea. Congratulations; you just made yourself look even worse. Pay to Win, Since you apparently have difficulty comprehending what the term means in general use, refers to paying for a massive competitive advantage. No, it does not and never has referred to purchasing an actual win. So, yes, in the most basic sense of the term, players are not paying to win. Since you apparently have difficulty comprehending what the term means in general use, refers to paying for a massive competitive advantage. No, it does not and never has referred to purchasing an actual women. So, yes, in the most basic sense of the term, players are not paying to guarantee a win. So what are they paying for? Gear that is vastly superior to everything else out there that does not have an astronomical price tag. Purchasing this equipment does vastly increase a purchaser’s odds of winning. And those of us who actually have a clue what we’re talking about because of experience can tell you that this equipment, at full power, cannot be compensated for by any amount of skill in a lesser mech. For the record, I’ve also driven these things on the test server where they aren’t as ridiculously powerful as they are on the Live servers. And I can tell you from personal experience that even there, the only thing a good Haechi will ever lose to is another Haechi. Why? Because that was the only thing that could take my Haechi down. Everything else melted. Yes, my good sir. The advantage offered by the Korean Dash bots will guarantee victory over anything less, unless you’re a truly abysmal pilot. And those aren’t as common as you might think. And for the record, you should really stop splitting hairs about how a player who has been in the game for three years shouldn’t be called a veteran because this isn’t real war. The distinction you are attempting to make is absurd; trust me, you’re the only one who has ever attempted to make it.
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Post by mechtout on Nov 27, 2017 18:36:27 GMT -5
Don't feed the troll folks
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 27, 2017 18:42:22 GMT -5
Thank you sir. You explained it better than I did. As to the naysayers, yes, there ARE people who take "Pay-to-Win" literally. And using that BS term over and over again just causes new people to give up any hope of ever winning a game. I don't own one dash bot and I win. Yes, I have purchased some stuff from Pixonic. But nothing that would give the impression I am trying to P2W. I bought a Raijin and a Rhino during the Black Friday sale because I figured I would never be able to get them any other way. I've only been playing the game about 3 weeks, so no, I am no expert at it. But I win a fair share of games. I have already posted elsewhere that I am in Silver, so no big revelation there. I do see plenty of dash bots, and quite honestly, with the Facebook teams I am on, they don't give a lot of problems. People spot, them, focus fire on them and eliminate them. No big deal. I really have no urge to go to the top league because I haven't got the time or inclination to invest in the game. And as long as they aren't paying out cash to win in that level, screw it. I will agree 100% with Ace's final statement..." Money will not buy you the win, it will only facilitate it. It is the skills you have achieved playing this game by combining it with the team you are placed in that would make you win and advance in leagues." VERY well said. I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating. LOL this the type of audience pixsonic ??, it their favorite one. Their too naive they'll throw a way their money without consideration first. He bough Raji and rhino lol.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 27, 2017 19:38:54 GMT -5
Buddy, you just shot any semblance of credibility you might’ve had in the head. Not the foot. HEAD. So you’re in FB Gameroom - the platform that is NOT iOS or Android and bears little resemblance to either one. And you’ve been playing for 3 weeks, yet you’re telling 3-YEAR veterans they’re losing because they have no skill. And lastly, you’re in Silver tier. That’s a trifecta of issues that completely rips the tattered shreds of the carpet out from under your feet. I’ll give you a little example. The only account I currently run is my secondary iOS account. All my gear is L5 to L6. I can play and win quite easily on that account; in fact I win far more often than I lose. And when or lose, I am usually at the top or among the top three damage dealers. Bear in mind, I am also in silver tier on my respective platform; The enemies I routinely defeat are equipped anywhere from 2 to 4 levels higher than my gear. And even on iOS, that gameplay is nothing like what happens when you reach platinum or expert. Unlike you, I speak from personal experience. You’ve seen nothing yet. You know nothing, Jon Snow. I suggest you stop before you dig your hole any deeper. Pal, you take this GAME way too seriously. It's a freaking GAME. I have as much right as anyone to post my opinion. If you don't like it, tough toenails. Veterans? OMG...you HAVE to be joking. Newsflash, but this is NOT real warfare. Nobody playing this GAME is even close to being a "veteran'. They may have more time playing the game, but that's it. you don't have to kiss their posterior to make them feel good and to improve your standing with them. Most of them are just kids anyway. I never brought up SKILL. I simply said that this GAME is NOT "Pay-to-Win". As others have pointed out, you can win or lose with the very best bots available. There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. That was my point that obviously flew over your head. You may think you have made some kind of great accomplishment in your life being good at a GAME. Sorry, but War Robots is not going to put any bread on the table or pay your rent or car note...if you are even old enough to drive. I really couldn't care less about your "accounts". Means zero to me. Do me a favor. Next time, just ignore my post. It is obviously way too complex for you to understand. You're opinion is now worthless. I mean, to be fair, it was before, but your insistence on shooting yourself in the face really isn't helping you like you think it is.
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 27, 2017 20:57:48 GMT -5
I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating. LOL this the type of audience pixsonic ??, it their favorite one. Their too naive they'll throw a way their money without consideration first. He bough Raji and rhino lol. Hope OP realized these can be acquired these with workshop points.... 3 weeks of playing on facebook and game not P2W? Let the OP think that and be done with this thread. OP cannot be convinced otherwise as he does not play on Android and iOS where majority of players are. Let's just say we agree to disagree Mods please lock/close this thread as it is a pointless discussion trying to explain something to someone who cannot see a forest from the trees.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 27, 2017 21:15:54 GMT -5
Pal, you take this GAME way too seriously. It's a freaking GAME. I have as much right as anyone to post my opinion. If you don't like it, tough toenails. Veterans? OMG...you HAVE to be joking. Newsflash, but this is NOT real warfare. Nobody playing this GAME is even close to being a "veteran'. They may have more time playing the game, but that's it. you don't have to kiss their posterior to make them feel good and to improve your standing with them. Most of them are just kids anyway. I never brought up SKILL. I simply said that this GAME is NOT "Pay-to-Win". As others have pointed out, you can win or lose with the very best bots available. There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. That was my point that obviously flew over your head. You may think you have made some kind of great accomplishment in your life being good at a GAME. Sorry, but War Robots is not going to put any bread on the table or pay your rent or car note...if you are even old enough to drive. I really couldn't care less about your "accounts". Means zero to me. Do me a favor. Next time, just ignore my post. It is obviously way too complex for you to understand. You're opinion is now worthless. I mean, to be fair, it was before, but your insistence on shooting yourself in the face really isn't helping you like you think it is. Nah man, let him keep going. I've needed a good laugh today. Think I got a migraine coming on. This thread is turning into my antidote. I love arguing with the clueless. Though, I will add (for the OP's benefit, and I'll even tag him so he sees this...calling deputy666) that making an introductory post that in one shot calls out every player on this forum who has an issue with the DEISS gear and proceeding to present a hair-splitting, legalistic argument over something no one to this point has really cared about...is not likely to (A), win many friends; (B), win a favorable opinion from the forum at large. Which, if you claim (as you likely will) that neither of those things matter to you...why are you even here? A forum is a gathering place for people who share a common interest...to discuss that interest for mutual enjoyment and benefit. All you've seemed to be interested in so far is provoking an argument. Which...eh, not the best way to start your stay on a community, even an online one. Let me highlight just how absurd the premise of this thread is: you are ranting about how it's ridiculous for players to call this game Pay-To-Win because it's actually Pay-Through-The-Nose-If-You-Want-To-Remain-Competitive-For-Long. No, my friend, you don't HAVE to pay a red cent. But the league system forces you upwards until you're facing enemies you cannot defeat without buying equivalent gear. You must PAY in order to have a chance at WINNING again. The game at its lower levels - where you very much are, padawan! - is most certainly not P2W. It's still enjoyable. However once you get forced up, as you inevitably will, you'll begin to see that unless you spend $$$, you'll get your arse royally whooped on a regular basis. Unless you pay, compadre, you most certainly will not win in the upper levels. Hmm. Think about that: A game that forces players up through the leagues until they run into a wall, and the only way around that wall is to spend money. Sounds legit. Definitely not like you have to pay in order to win or anything. Of course, you can always drop through the leagues again...oh. By losing. Right. That part again. You like to claim other people miss the point of your post. I merely pointed out the absurdity of your statement, and you are missing the point yourself. I will reiterate: You speak from very little experience (3 weeks), at a low league (silver is where players BEGIN to learn skills. Which means you're beginning to learn yourself...ouchie...), on a platform without many serious tankers/clubbers/whales (FB Gameroom...all the heavy firepower is concentrated on iOS and Android). And yet you want to berate everyone for calling the game PTW? Tell me again exactly where you got all this experience from which you base your claims. Tell me why you should have any credibility at all. Meh. I'm bored. Just a thought, you might possibly be more polite and less confrontational the next time you start/enter a conversation. At least until people know you a little better. Otherwise, you'll look like a troll, smell like a troll and sound like a troll. People don't like trolls. Moderators don't like trolls. Bad things happen to trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 21:23:05 GMT -5
There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. So, you're saying that if I dropped 5 grand on War Robots right now and bought all Dashers, Shocktrains, Embers, Inquisitors and leveled them up to MK2 Level 12, I won't have a guarantee of winning most, if not all of my matches? You sound like a sockpuppet of copilotjesus -- a player with little experience making brash claims to get attention. Tsk, tsk.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 27, 2017 21:26:35 GMT -5
There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. So, you're saying that if I dropped 5 grand on War Robots right now and bought all Dashers, Shocktrains, Embers, Inquisitors and leveled them up to MK2 Level 12, I won't have a guarantee of winning most, if not all of my matches? You sound like a sockpuppet of copilotjesus -- a player with little experience making brash claims to get attention. Tsk, tsk. Nope. No advantage at all. At the end of the day it would be six players vs six players, and skill would carry the day. Because BALANCED, THE FORCE IS!!! Hmm. Time to break out the ECU COSSACKS AND DOMINATE WITH MY MAD RUNNING SKILLZ!!!
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 27, 2017 21:35:01 GMT -5
So, you're saying that if I dropped 5 grand on War Robots right now and bought all Dashers, Shocktrains, Embers, Inquisitors and leveled them up to MK2 Level 12, I won't have a guarantee of winning most, if not all of my matches? You sound like a sockpuppet of copilotjesus -- a player with little experience making brash claims to get attention. Tsk, tsk. Nope. No advantage at all. At the end of the day it would be six players vs six players, and skill would carry the day. Because BALANCED, THE FORCE IS!!! Hmm. Time to break out the ECU COSSACKS AND DOMINATE WITH MY MAD RUNNING SKILLZ!!! not 1 but 5 ecu cossacks my friend. There is your advantage and guaranteed win. come on we all know that
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 27, 2017 21:39:41 GMT -5
Nope. No advantage at all. At the end of the day it would be six players vs six players, and skill would carry the day. Because BALANCED, THE FORCE IS!!! Hmm. Time to break out the ECU COSSACKS AND DOMINATE WITH MY MAD RUNNING SKILLZ!!! not 1 but 5 ecu cossacks my friend. There is your advantage and guaranteed win. come on we all know that Win guaranteed only if all teammates run five Ecu Cossacks...
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 27, 2017 21:40:54 GMT -5
not 1 but 5 ecu cossacks my friend. There is your advantage and guaranteed win. come on we all know that Win guaranteed only if all teammates run five Ecu Cossacks... Damn...knew I forgot something.
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Post by T34 on Nov 27, 2017 22:25:16 GMT -5
Tuning in late deputy666 congratulation for the Rhino and the Rajin. I have been playing for a while and still don't have a rhino. Looking at my WSP balance I don’t think I will have one for a very long time. I was lucky with the Raijin as I have two in the inventory. They even have skins (mitsudome and black widow) One configuration option for the Rhino is tarans and magnums. Will you be buying those weapons when a special deal/offer comes up for those weapons?
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Post by jhonsnow on Nov 28, 2017 0:37:27 GMT -5
I always ROFL when I hear "Pay To Win". You would think, according to many folks, if you buy the most expensive, OP bot, and equip it with the most expensive OP weapons, that would GUARANTEE a win. Sorry, but no. You happen to have 5 other players on your team, and they are pretty important to winning. If they screw up, doesn't matter how much cash you paid, you will NOT WIN. If you make the wrong moves using the wrong strategy, you will NOT WIN. If the bot and weapons are not upgraded, most likely you will do poorly and NOT WIN. Games like this are notorious for handing you long losing streaks. In WOT we had really good players get on a losing streak of 20 games. It happens. Poop happens. You will NOT WIN if you are on a losing streak. Now an accurate terminology would be Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning. But just "Pay-To-Win is complete horse manure. Yeh It's "pay 2 win" ONLY for skilled pilots. For an unskilled and noob pilot its "pay to whatever".
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Post by mechtout on Nov 28, 2017 1:19:22 GMT -5
For an unskilled and noob pilot its "pay to whatever". Pay-to-hang?
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 28, 2017 1:30:44 GMT -5
I always ROFL when I hear "Pay To Win". You would think, according to many folks, if you buy the most expensive, OP bot, and equip it with the most expensive OP weapons, that would GUARANTEE a win. Sorry, but no. You happen to have 5 other players on your team, and they are pretty important to winning. If they screw up, doesn't matter how much cash you paid, you will NOT WIN. If you make the wrong moves using the wrong strategy, you will NOT WIN. If the bot and weapons are not upgraded, most likely you will do poorly and NOT WIN. Games like this are notorious for handing you long losing streaks. In WOT we had really good players get on a losing streak of 20 games. It happens. Poop happens. You will NOT WIN if you are on a losing streak. Now an accurate terminology would be Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning. But just "Pay-To-Win is complete horse manure. Yeah! Just like when people say "the cream rises to the top," I always knew they were idiots because the marshmallows rise to the top, the cream is below them in hot chocolate, coffee, or covfefe. And because I also take everything so literally I also ROFL when people reference success after they used that quote. Marshmallows and cream can't be successful!This thread is gold. The Sheriff called deputy666 , he is wondering why your mom is demanding he buy you a dictionary for Christmas... he must want you to read this definition: Pay-to-win: In some multiplayer free-to-play games, players who are willing to pay for special items or downloadable content may be able to gain a significant advantage over those playing for free. Some critics of such games call them "pay-to-win" or "p2w" games.Significant advantage is not synonymous with win, yikes... Dictionaries are good... Or you just could have Googled it... Knowing is half the battle.
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Post by hyderier on Nov 28, 2017 1:32:53 GMT -5
I thought I would highlight the sections of your post I found most illuminating. LOL this the type of audience pixsonic ??, it their favorite one. Their too naive they'll throw a way their money without consideration first. He bough Raji and rhino lol. Well, to be fair, if he didn't buy them, it would be one month of waiting for WSP per bot... If he did the smart thing and got (for example) a PDB set first, he'd have that plus Rhino plus Raijin after about 4 months of playing. Now he has them now. I'm not saying it is a very good deal for patient, but it's not a too bad a deal for the impatient.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 28, 2017 7:19:24 GMT -5
I always ROFL when I hear "Pay To Win". You would think, according to many folks, if you buy the most expensive, OP bot, and equip it with the most expensive OP weapons, that would GUARANTEE a win. Sorry, but no. You happen to have 5 other players on your team, and they are pretty important to winning. If they screw up, doesn't matter how much cash you paid, you will NOT WIN. If you make the wrong moves using the wrong strategy, you will NOT WIN. If the bot and weapons are not upgraded, most likely you will do poorly and NOT WIN. Games like this are notorious for handing you long losing streaks. In WOT we had really good players get on a losing streak of 20 games. It happens. Poop happens. You will NOT WIN if you are on a losing streak. Now an accurate terminology would be Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning. But just "Pay-To-Win is complete horse manure. Yeah! Just like when people say "the cream rises to the top," I always knew they were idiots because the marshmallows rise to the top, the cream is below them in hot chocolate, coffee, or covfefe. And because I also take everything so literally I also ROFL when people reference success after they used that quote. Marshmallows and cream can't be successful!This thread is gold. The Sheriff called deputy666 , he is wondering why your mom is demanding he buy you a dictionary for Christmas... he must want you to read this definition: Pay-to-win: In some multiplayer free-to-play games, players who are willing to pay for special items or downloadable content may be able to gain a significant advantage over those playing for free. Some critics of such games call them "pay-to-win" or "p2w" games.Significant advantage is not synonymous with win, yikes... Dictionaries are good... Or you just could have Googled it... Knowing is half the battle.obvious he hasn't been here long enough to be exposed and to see the truth. it doesn't matter how many years of professional gaming you have under your belt, this game is designed and geared toward p2w, the game mechanic is all rigged to be that way. Yes you do need to use some of you're cognitive effort of playing, yes you do need to be aware of you're surrounding...BUT using those will NOT get you a an instant win. Even if you don't face those dash bots, you're most likely will be teamed up with an unbalanced composition hangars, sometimes your lucky you might be on stronger composition team and, other times you're not you'll going be on an awkward team with bad composition that doesn't work out with that specific map. Pixsonic do this to "hopefully" to get you to get fed up and pay up for the over powered items . If you're a free loader like i am using gold and silver bots once you hit a limiter it's all over and there is no way to continue to climb up the ladder and, quiet frankly original poster does not realize how this game function. The only way we can balance the system again is if we all work in together and stop using the over powered items and stop tanking.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 28, 2017 10:31:38 GMT -5
I always ROFL when I hear "Pay To Win". You would think, according to many folks, if you buy the most expensive, OP bot, and equip it with the most expensive OP weapons, that would GUARANTEE a win. Sorry, but no. You happen to have 5 other players on your team, and they are pretty important to winning. If they screw up, doesn't matter how much cash you paid, you will NOT WIN. If you make the wrong moves using the wrong strategy, you will NOT WIN. If the bot and weapons are not upgraded, most likely you will do poorly and NOT WIN. Games like this are notorious for handing you long losing streaks. In WOT we had really good players get on a losing streak of 20 games. It happens. Poop happens. You will NOT WIN if you are on a losing streak. Now an accurate terminology would be Pay-to-increase-your-chances-of-winning. But just "Pay-To-Win is complete horse manure. Yeah! Just like when people say "the cream rises to the top," I always knew they were idiots because the marshmallows rise to the top, the cream is below them in hot chocolate, coffee, or covfefe. And because I also take everything so literally I also ROFL when people reference success after they used that quote. Marshmallows and cream can't be successful!This thread is gold. The Sheriff called deputy666 , he is wondering why your mom is demanding he buy you a dictionary for Christmas... he must want you to read this definition: Pay-to-win: In some multiplayer free-to-play games, players who are willing to pay for special items or downloadable content may be able to gain a significant advantage over those playing for free. Some critics of such games call them "pay-to-win" or "p2w" games.Significant advantage is not synonymous with win, yikes... Dictionaries are good... Or you just could have Googled it... Knowing is half the battle.Aw, man...why'd you have to drag a dictionary into this? Why can't we simply be overly literal in a way no one else is, and try to make ourselves sound more intelligent than others by picking bones of contention just for the sake of arguing? The OP is oddly silent...hmm...maybe he's been hiding his head under the sheets because he wasn't expecting to actually have to deal with facts. Perhaps the troll has been scared back under his bridge.
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Post by copilotjesus on Nov 28, 2017 17:06:29 GMT -5
There is no guaranty from anyone that if you PAY you automatically WIN. So, you're saying that if I dropped 5 grand on War Robots right now and bought all Dashers, Shocktrains, Embers, Inquisitors and leveled them up to MK2 Level 12, I won't have a guarantee of winning most, if not all of my matches? You sound like a sockpuppet of copilotjesus -- a player with little experience making brash claims to get attention. Tsk, tsk. This coming from the guy who literally has thousands of posts.
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Post by amidf on Nov 28, 2017 17:27:00 GMT -5
Veteran can only mean War Veteran, and it's not Pay 2 Win if you lose, even once.
That's my takeaway from this highly entertaining thread.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to hit the road, and I expect that will badly damage my fist.
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