My son's Hangar

Hi grondak

Firstly may I say how cool it is that a dad is asking on a forum for advice to improve his son’s hangar. Just love the paternal care you demonstrate. May your interest in your son always surpass your interest in the game

1) If he’s got a Gareth then that will do well as a beacon capper for now. The stalker needs much more precision in piloting to time the stealth perfectly. Gareth just needs to avoid rockets and he’s good to go. Much simpler in my mind. The Taran Magnum setup is indeed the optimal one.

2) The ideal replacement for the Cossack without losing the fun factor is the Rogatka, but at 2,500 Au he’s probably not gonna have one for a while. With the other two Griffins in the hangar, I would try the Thunder Pinata Leo, especially since he’s having more success with knife fighters at the moment. That way he is also starting to upgrade some Pinatas for an eventual DB setup in the future.

The rest you can leave as it is I think. Save Gold for 5th slot or 2 Orkans and WSP for Tarans or Carnage.

My best regards to your son

Unless he is complaining about losing , why not let him just have his fun and let him play as he wants .

Maybe he really loves his Cossack ?

I second that, and agree with all the points DV has made. The Thunder Pinata Leo can be an excellent brawler/beacon defender. Good luck to you and your son.

I run tons of garys (3 in my capping hanger right now) -- the punisher is my favorite to run -- If your son doesn't understand it already then teaching/showing the value of fighting at range is a good thing. 

What I would do:

1. Get the Gary to level 7, and the weapons to 7 as well. Eventually you will want to upgrade everything here to 9-9 but this is a catch as catch can situation other items are higher priority. This gary is survivable as part of a capping hanger in android diamond. 

2. Invest in a golem: Fast and cheep to upgrade -- 4.5 days and not a lot of silver to take to level 12. Fit it with plasma and thunders or punishers and thunders -- pick one and stick with it for a while. A golem is a great bot to MK II (still cheep to do and fast). I would suggest plasma if the --- great platform to use on the way to building a PDB, and the thunder has plenty of other homes. If he comes up with stray gear it is also a good platform for that --- I run a geko/scourge/zeus golem and it is one of my favorite bots, and I have a tempest/molot golem that I enjoy as well. See this for a full breakdown: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15993/mk-ii-golem-hidden-gem

3. The stalker is useless/worthless till level 8 - with higher level weapons (aphids are best, pintas work) and requires a fair bit of nuance to drive (more for the pintas). Going to be hard to make a lot of headway with it and only 4 slots, especially for a kid. However if you level the stalker a bit, it would be of benefit in the coming event (assuming it is the same as the previous ones) in clearing beacon tasks --- and might let him get some of those lower level prizes!


Other things to note: 

It takes me 100 games to master a new bot/setup, and I have enough gear that I ONLY run it when it is leveled. Going to be harder for a kid who has low level stuff, less patience, and fewer skills in critical self reflection (you never know with kids, sometimes they spot their own mistakes early). 

Corner shooting and use of cover are HARD skills: golems and garys are good conner shooters. Tons of videos out there on the tactic. Just make sure your looking at videos that are more recent old gary tactics (orkan backpedaling for example) don't apply as much any more. 




 







 

I have truly been converted to the Punisher-Thunder-Leo-out-performing-the-Pinata-Thunder-Leo way of thinking.  Especially down low.  But getting the skills that it takes to run Pinatas early, and 3 of them leveled, is not a bad path if you decide to go that route. 

2 Leos would solve this dilemma!   

To that end... I would almost say Punisher Leo is better than RDB... almost.  RDB is still damned useful, especially as you learn it and all... but since someone brought up patience... that build requires it to get the most use out of it... especially at lower weapon levels.  Full salvos aren't enough to really kill a bot.  But if you can stay back and use splash and just keep chiselling away, it's deffo a beast.

Yes that would be a whole helluva lot of Puns... and may be a bit boring... but damn they are effective once they are on a bot that can sustain enough damage to allow you to get close with them.  Leos can do that.  Maybe do what was said and make the Griff Molot Gunship and keep the Puns on the Leo(s).

But Gary should deffo go Plasma or Orkan Pinata once you have one.  Each setup is played a bit differently but I feel it is more effective higher in the leagues than the Plasma is.  Although they both can still be used well, especially since the Gary speed bug seems to be fixed. 

Stalker is damned good, but like was said, requires much more forethought and patience to use to its most potential.


So, my thoughts are this for initial hangar goals:

1.  Plasma Gary
2.  Punisher Thunder Leo
3.  Either another Punisher Thunder or a Pinata Thunder Leo
4.  Molot Griff  (this also gets 2 of each type of Molot up to par for when/if he gets a Tempest... which is HIGHLY recommended to strive for, in my book)

A possible option that I loved at the early levels of play is the Thunder Orkan Boa... fast and tough and excels at getting in your face and wrecking it.

BTW... I messed around on my iOS Silver account and got a Golem to 12 to see what all the fuss is about... it really is quick and cheap and can excel with any common Leo build as it has similar low level Leo HP but better speed and corner shooting abilities.  It took no time at all and really is cheap.  4 million Ag to go from level 10 to level 11, I think, to give you an idea of just how cheap.  I am running level 6 Tempest and Molot-T and Molot on it and it is wrecking bots like a boss.  But any Leo-like build would suffice... including Thunder Puns.

Good luck!

IMO, YMMV.