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Post by Golden Sabre on Oct 30, 2017 20:05:22 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 20:26:24 GMT -5
The frustrations come from the MM (and current event madness)making sure that nothing works for very long until you get a full mk2 hangar of the flavor of the month.
I have better luck helping people in mental health and addiction support forums(which is where I'm spending the majority of what was my War Robots and wiki time since I became scarce here)than anyone could have trying to help anyone to anymore than a temporary relief of the monetization smackdown anyone that hasn't been in this game longer than a year is facing.
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Post by Poopface on Oct 30, 2017 20:58:22 GMT -5
Your second paragraph is too long. It hurts my head to try to decipher it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 21:01:10 GMT -5
Your second paragraph is too long. It hurts my head to try to decipher it. It's easier to make life changing decisions, and help others make life changing decisions, than it is to help someone have fun in this mobile "game". |
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Post by Poopface on Oct 30, 2017 21:46:47 GMT -5
Whew! Thanks.
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Post by humptydumpty on Oct 30, 2017 22:55:13 GMT -5
What are we? or, a better question is why are we this way?
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Post by T34 on Oct 30, 2017 23:03:45 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. "hearing you loud and clear" but "how dare you" suggest such things.
.......but on a more serious note, what you are asking has some merit. i will try to tone it down a bit. Just cant help it at times because a really good game is having its heart ripped out :-(
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 30, 2017 23:26:08 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. Uhh... so maybe Dredd shouldn't post his upcoming 5 part series on this forum titled: Is Pixonic Killing War Robots? Something tells me he will though... But really, are the admins playing the game? Dredd's sudden understanding (after not playing the game for awhile and coming back to it: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15832/broke-first-mil-why-disappointed ) that the new robots and weapons are too strong was too little, too late. And that was only after he spent article after article not addressing the core balance problems killing the game. We all have to come to grips with the fact that the game has changed dramatically, the game isn't what it was, so we can't be what we were. Sorry, it just isn't how life works. It feels like the community understands this, but many of the entrenched whales, long terms players and admins don't seem to grasp it. And they'll go down with the ship. So let me ask the question, because a good answer to this question could solve many of the problems the community is having with the game: What good advice is there to offer in light of MKII Dash Robots wrecking face?Because one of the most reasonable answers is a forbidden topic on this forum. |
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Post by humptydumpty on Oct 30, 2017 23:49:57 GMT -5
Nice try GS, but the Mods have set the tone and direction for this forum for a long time...clubbers, tankers, leavers, morals, ethics, hypocrisy, and the ownership aura. What you are smelling is the stench of death! Why else would Dredd decide to branch out, and draw out the 5 part series, yet leave the option open for BoT in a mirror forum?
I learned many things form this forum and it help me enjoy the game, but at some point all this forum did was take away the fun of the game.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Oct 31, 2017 0:16:45 GMT -5
Hey guys, if we don’t talk about it, the problem doesn’t exist. I get the premise of what you’re asking, but it isn’t a practical or fair request. This forum is a place to discuss War Robots. War Robots is currently a broken product. When you have a group of people centered around a product and that product frustrates everyone that uses it, you’re going to have a forum full of negativity. That is not a knock on the forum or it’s moderation. It’s an outcome produced by what Pixonic has done, which nobody here has any control over.
Sadly to say, the frustrated people will leave one by one as they have been, and this forum will die along with War Robots. There is no saving this game from the monsters that are running it.
I also echo the opinions of others in that I cannot figure out a way to provide good advice to anyone that isn’t a whale. Sharing the only advice that would actually work in the current state of the game would result in a permanent ban from the forums.
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Post by hyderier on Oct 31, 2017 1:48:53 GMT -5
What are we? or, a better question is why are we this way? Why? Because we are at a point, where "only way to win is to not play". But we're refusing to believe this, and instead vent our frustrations here, in vain hope that somehow things will get better. Yet subconsciously we know they won't. Any game that has gone this way hasn't come back (I think), yet we somehow seem to hope War Robots will become a game of skill again. It will not, unless you run custom games. |
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Post by 7iquid on Oct 31, 2017 1:57:49 GMT -5
I got on the forum because it was really useful for info and exchanging views with other players.
A lot of the negative and grumpy stuff is justified but I agree that it is becoming the majority topic for posts.
War Robots and the forum are a bit of an escape from the world for me - if I really wanted negative and grumpy stuff I would simply start a conversation with my wife.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 31, 2017 3:38:43 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. I commend the spirit, and I'm usually trying to stick to it. However, there is a specific, mostly untold, reason why it is so: considering that pixonic is unreacheable, BUT their communication manager (a guy nicknamed Tosfla, or something like that) who posts something once every 3 months on reddit (that is the extent of the communication) has said that they do monitor the unofficial forums (which means, here), in the off chance that is actually true, posting here is, as we say in Italy "Talking to your daughter in law so that her mother understands", meaning, that you complain to the general public here so that Pixo might, by chance, get the message. Not a great strategy, if you ask me, but there's that. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 31, 2017 3:57:31 GMT -5
Uhh... so maybe Dredd shouldn't post his upcoming 5 part series on this forum titled: Is Pixonic Killing War Robots? Something tells me he will though... But really, are the admins playing the game? Dredd's sudden understanding (after not playing the game for awhile and coming back to it: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15832/broke-first-mil-why-disappointed ) that the new robots and weapons are too strong was too little, too late. And that was only after he spent article after article not addressing the core balance problems killing the game. Way too little and way too late. Plus the fact he has a full set of Kbots with 900 wins and after not having played in enough time to get the "welcome back offers"? Ummm. I tend to think Pixo staff and the main online writers/youtubers should be forced to spend a considerable amount of time daily playing the game with silver and au bots/weapons only. The tone of a lot of articles/videos and, maybe, the game would change, then. Edit: Maybe (maybe) not Dredd, but there are HUGE undisclosed conflicts of interest in the professional or demi-professional commenting circle, which is even more annoying as the disconnect with the players' community grows farther and farther apart. Edit edit: and of course this has nothign to do with the OP, so I apologize and stop here. |
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Oct 31, 2017 4:24:43 GMT -5
I totally agree with the sentiment. The only problem I see is that giving the advice we used to give simply doesn't really work any more.
To give newer players advice on pretty much ANYTHING, we are going to have to explain the state of the game! You can't give hangar advice without including the necessary addendums that unless they are asking what to spend RWC on, weaknesses now exist in each build a new player has access too. which is bound to turn the conversation sour.
Even the once mighty griffin, the step ladder that led you all the way to the top, is just a pile of silver in the very, very near future.
How can we give advice without taking that into account?
I am 100% for making the forum more positive, there IS still fun to be had and we should definitely be as positive as we can.... but we can't do that without first acknowledging the difficulties.
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Post by anjian on Oct 31, 2017 5:25:05 GMT -5
Either the MM is better for me, or its not functioning at all. I am only at Gold 1 with level 7/7 bots and weapons, quite happy to fight down low, but I am constantly being pulled up against Expert and Diamond players to serve as a "filler", as it seems that the player pool queue is down in numbers at the higher tiers. While the bad part is that I am facing stronger competition, the good part is the quality of the teams I am getting paired with is pretty good, and I am able to maintain a good win rate so far.
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Post by TravLar on Oct 31, 2017 5:53:04 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. The game is in crisis and unfortunately that's gonna reflect here. It not gonna help to put our heads in the sand pretend its all cucumber sandwiches and sunshine.
Though I've got no doubt that if Pix stopped the path they're on and gave us back the game we love we'd be griping about the MM and the latest OP setup anyway lol. But at least we'd have "yet another thread" about whether Rhino is relevant or not. The meta was alive and it came down to crunching the numbers and working on your skill. Why is that gone? Because its a matter of buying what's best and its so OP you don't need to look too closely at the numbers and you have one you probably whaled it and don't really wanna brag about it either. Haven't seen anybody post, "Check out my KBot Shocktrain hammer - cool huh?" Nah, the 12/12 Haechi gang are having fun but they've got nothing to be proud of and they know it.
Democracy and freedom of expression hurts and gets ugly and unpleasant because that's how things change. If Pix wants to know what the players are feeling they can come here and read it. What they see here will always be a reflection of the state of the game. Why is hangar talk so dry at the moment? I reckon its because what is relevant is out of reach to the masses. You know there is a top clan that has a their by-line: "3 Dashes Minimum" to join?
That's where we're at, that's what we have on our minds and we wanna talk about what's relevant to us. If that's depressing poo-poo, well of course it is. Not our fault.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Oct 31, 2017 6:51:27 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit 「female dog」ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Oct 31, 2017 7:10:57 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit ?female dog?ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. This is true. |
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Post by arakos on Oct 31, 2017 7:38:10 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit ?female dog?ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. I don't get it. Isn't this exactly the kind of post that we should avoid? As for me, still enjoying the game and will post as much information as I can on how to get the maximum profit of game currency WITHOUT spending RM. And on how to fight premium bots and weapons, though there are many folks here that do that job much better than me |
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Post by wildboar on Oct 31, 2017 7:40:20 GMT -5
Circle Jerk made me lol
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 31, 2017 7:59:36 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit ?female dog?ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. Wait, so that was the good advice? Quit or put up? That isn't what we used to be. And you know that. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 31, 2017 8:24:47 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit ?female dog?ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. Sorry, this is not the kind of comment one would expect by a mod. And I know the trite "a mod is also a normal participant" argument, but no. A mod that essentially is saying "oh, shut up" is simply doing it wrong, in my opinion (of which, of course, you can wipe your underneaths). Besides, if you go and open a discussion, you gotta get what it comes. |
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Post by arakos on Oct 31, 2017 9:07:09 GMT -5
There is a problem about how to give good advice in the present times Before, when new items saw the light, (for example brit bots) everyone could profit from the advice of expert players that tested them. I remember eagerly reading Gareth's posts for example. And considering buying one, or even a couple of them so I could enjoy different layouts. The almighty Lancelot was 5k gold away! But even that "huge" amount could be grinded with time. So all players were interested in whatever new information could be obtained from experienced testers, and were grateful for it Now. Imagine Dredd77 posting about the behavior of his Shocktrain Bulgasari. How many folks could benefit from that information? I think you get my point |
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Post by agentfilthy on Oct 31, 2017 9:18:33 GMT -5
So the game is on it's last legs but you want a forum based around said game to stop being negative? LMAO. What is there left that is remotely positive to discuss? Also...there is a solid chance that our "answering questions and giving advice" will probably be in a thread that stems from one of these "forbidden topics".
If everything is on fire...people tend to talk about the fire.
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Post by wildboar on Oct 31, 2017 9:19:59 GMT -5
So the game is on it's last legs but you want a forum based around said game to stop being negative? LMAO. What is there left that is remotely positive to discuss? Also...there is a solid chance that our "answering questions and giving advice" will probably be in a thread that stems from one of these "forbidden topics". If everything is on fire...people tend to talk about the fire. that and toasting marshmallows |
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Oct 31, 2017 9:45:12 GMT -5
I got on the forum because it was really useful for info and exchanging views with other players. A lot of the negative and grumpy stuff is justified but I agree that it is becoming the majority topic for posts. War Robots and the forum are a bit of an escape from the world for me - if I really wanted negative and grumpy stuff I would simply start a conversation with my wife. Escape indeed!!! I admit though, nowadays I feel like there is no escape when the same, manipulative focus on the almighty dollar creates an elitist atmosphere between those who HAVE and others who HAVE NOT. Im beginning to feel like an outlier and disattatched from the community as a whole to a certain degree...My persobal view and unwillingness to Tank or Fade to achieve rank or league status, my inability to collect various equipment and field diversified hangars that are not fodder for pkayers who can pump large amounts of incone into a game... I have never understood the concept of 'disposable income' either. Im trying not to let cynicism infect me and who I am, but its hard... I feel like there is no escape from my escape. |
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Post by Poopface on Oct 31, 2017 10:11:27 GMT -5
I got on the forum because it was really useful for info and exchanging views with other players. A lot of the negative and grumpy stuff is justified but I agree that it is becoming the majority topic for posts. War Robots and the forum are a bit of an escape from the world for me - if I really wanted negative and grumpy stuff I would simply start a conversation with my wife. Escape indeed!!! I admit though, nowadays I feel like there is no escape when the same, manipulative focus on the almighty dollar creates an elitist atmosphere between those who HAVE and others who HAVE NOT. Im beginning to feel like an outlier and disattatched from the community as a whole to a certain degree...My persobal view and unwillingness to Tank or Fade to achieve rank or league status, my inability to collect various equipment and field diversified hangars that are not fodder for pkayers who can pump large amounts of incone into a game... I have never understood the concept of 'disposable income' either. Im trying not to let cynicism infect me and who I am, but its hard... I feel like there is no escape from my escape. I feel similarly. Do what you need to, but what I do I come here less. I try to post less but with a little more gravitas. I’m more selective about what I read when I do come here. I’m also playing far less than since I returned to the game. Between the control-related iPad bugs that came with the Halloween event and the P2W model, I play a little until I hit a streak of unbalanced gameplay. Then I play something else and enjoy not feeling like I’m getting abused. |
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 31, 2017 10:26:18 GMT -5
Escape indeed!!! I admit though, nowadays I feel like there is no escape when the same, manipulative focus on the almighty dollar creates an elitist atmosphere between those who HAVE and others who HAVE NOT. Im beginning to feel like an outlier and disattatched from the community as a whole to a certain degree...My persobal view and unwillingness to Tank or Fade to achieve rank or league status, my inability to collect various equipment and field diversified hangars that are not fodder for pkayers who can pump large amounts of incone into a game... I have never understood the concept of 'disposable income' either. Im trying not to let cynicism infect me and who I am, but its hard... I feel like there is no escape from my escape. I feel similarly. Do what you need to, but what I do I come here less. I try to post less but with a little more gravitas. I’m more selective about what I read when I do come here. I’m also playing far less than since I returned to the game. Between the control-related iPad bugs that came with the Halloween event and the P2W model, I play a little until I hit a streak of unbalanced gameplay. Then I play something else and enjoy not feeling like I’m getting abused. ^^^This.
One of my favorite periods on these boards were when the Dashes came out. There was (of course) anger at what was happening, but many on the board did what they did best and gave excellent advice about how to counter and defeat the new threat on the battlefield. And you know what, a lot of it worked! That's the stuff I like to read on here and what drew me to read it in the first place and to, eventually, start contributing myself.
I'm trending now more towards to the "most interesting man in the world" philosophy of board posting. "I don't always post on the War Robots boards, but when I do, I post meaningful useful content...post responsibly my friends." I'll leave it to you all to imagine that quote spoken in an interesting Spanish accent.
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Post by Dejnov on Oct 31, 2017 10:27:15 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. You can't ever go back to how it was. That game, that development team, that community can't exist anymore as they are totally disparate with reality and the situation that Pixonic has brought upon all of us. You can be like Dredd77 and stick your face up Pixonic's rear end and keep thinking your smelling roses... or you can understand that the player base is reasonably upset. If you don't want to accept reality, that's your choice, but right now it's not the choice of the majority of free to play players. Also note: Just because we play the same game doesn't make us equal or our opinion anywhere the same as yours and Dredds. You are PAYING players... you get the nice toys. Most of the people are not; they might also be from communities/world regions where the prices for Pixonic's goods are disparately high and could never afford them even if they were stupid enough too. As such, for the majority of free players, the game sucks big time and none of the 'advances' that Pixonic is making means much to that community (especially since it took a free player over a year to even come to top tier). Dejnov. P.S. Most advice these days is plain bull「dookie」. There is no good advice that will save you and your free bots from an onslaught of 6 Kbots. What advice are you suggesting we post... stop playing or buy a kbot. There is no middle ground or skill needed anymore. |
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