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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 31, 2017 10:52:35 GMT -5
When I see threads that about how MM or Dashes or anything is “killing the game” I usually don’t even open them. If it has an oddball title and I click on it, I close it.
Also the threads about “Pix should do this or that” or “DO YOU THINK Pix should do this or that?” Those are not quite so bad as there are some good ideas but the chances of Pix actually doing any of those things is next to none.
I’d rather spend my time playing the game. If I’m taking a break from playing for an hour or so, then I’d rather be in another thread, helping with gaming tips, or hangar/gameplay suggestions.
I understand everyone’s frustration as I am frustrated with the direction the game has gone too, but I have found a way to adapt and I still enjoy playing and it’s better for me to not be focused on the negative all the time.
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Post by Dredd77 on Oct 31, 2017 10:58:28 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. You can't ever go back to how it was. That game, that development team, that community can't exist anymore as they are totally disparate with reality and the situation that Pixonic has brought upon all of us. You can be like Dredd77 and stick your face up Pixonic's rear end and keep thinking your smelling roses... or you can understand that the player base is reasonably upset. If you don't want to accept reality, that's your choice, but right now it's not the choice of the majority of free to play players. Also note: Just because we play the same game doesn't make us equal or our opinion anywhere the same as yours and Dredds. You are PAYING players... you get the nice toys. Most of the people are not; they might also be from communities/world regions where the prices for Pixonic's goods are disparately high and could never afford them even if they were stupid enough too. As such, for the majority of free players, the game sucks big time and none of the 'advances' that Pixonic is making means much to that community (especially since it took a free player over a year to even come to top tier). Dejnov. P.S. Most advice these days is plain bull?poo-poo?. There is no good advice that will save you and your free bots from an onslaught of 6 Kbots. What advice are you suggesting we post... stop playing or buy a kbot. There is no middle ground or skill needed anymore.
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Oct 31, 2017 11:52:14 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. "hearing you loud and clear" but "how dare you" suggest such things.
.......but on a more serious note, what you are asking has some merit. i will try to tone it down a bit. Just cant help it at times because a really good game is having its heart ripped out :-(
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!? sorry ...couldn't resist...
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Post by NerFB on Oct 31, 2017 13:04:50 GMT -5
"hearing you loud and clear" but "how dare you" suggest such things.
.......but on a more serious note, what you are asking has some merit. i will try to tone it down a bit. Just cant help it at times because a really good game is having its heart ripped out :-(
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!? sorry ...couldn't resist... Don’t mention the War! I did, but I think I got away with it.
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Post by NerFB on Oct 31, 2017 13:13:38 GMT -5
Ok, does that make me an Ork, or one of those short arse hairy do-gooders? Might be more fun being an Ork, at least you don’t need to listen to those “know it all” sanctimonious pointy eared elves.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 13:29:05 GMT -5
Ok, does that make me an Ork, or one of those short arse hairy do-gooders? Might be more fun being an Ork, at least you don’t need to listen to those “know it all” sanctimonious pointy eared elves. I wasn't assigning roles. You get to pick your own team.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Oct 31, 2017 14:40:22 GMT -5
Dejnov, let's get one thing straight. I've spent less than $200 on this game and with the exception of a really good Galahad & gold deal, it has all been spent sponsoring contests for my clan mates. I only have one Kbot and got it on a lucky spin. Choose your words wisely when you speak of things you do not know. As for your disrespecting of Dredd77, I will let him handle that as he wants and I will back him totally.
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Post by humptydumpty on Oct 31, 2017 15:02:31 GMT -5
I feel the love on this forum! Golden Sabre needs to eat a Snickers bar!
War Robots is still fun if you just play it...play it in a vacuum if you must, and if something better comes along I think it is time to move on.
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Oct 31, 2017 15:36:08 GMT -5
Uhh... so maybe Dredd shouldn't post his upcoming 5 part series on this forum titled: Is Pixonic Killing War Robots? Something tells me he will though... But really, are the admins playing the game? Dredd's sudden understanding (after not playing the game for awhile and coming back to it: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15832/broke-first-mil-why-disappointed ) that the new robots and weapons are too strong was too little, too late. And that was only after he spent article after article not addressing the core balance problems killing the game. Way too little and way too late. Plus the fact he has a full set of Kbots with 900 wins and after not having played in enough time to get the "welcome back offers"? Ummm. I tend to think Pixo staff and the main online writers/youtubers should be forced to spend a considerable amount of time daily playing the game with silver and au bots/weapons only. The tone of a lot of articles/videos and, maybe, the game would change, then. Edit: Maybe (maybe) not Dredd, but there are HUGE undisclosed conflicts of interest in the professional or demi-professional commenting circle, which is even more annoying as the disconnect with the players' community grows farther and farther apart. Edit edit: and of course this has nothign to do with the OP, so I apologize and stop here. Y'all are hilarious. Really. All the 「female dog」ing and moaning about the meta this or the meta that, can't fight against whatever bot, etc. "OH YOU GOTTA HAVE KBOTS TO WIN!" or the "OH THE WHALES ARE KILLING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE *insert whatever blah here*". I continue to play, continue to have fun, continue to be frustrated and continue to advance. I've spent around $50 on the game, mostly for gold that I stupidly wasted on the event chests and what not. I still have all of 1 gold bot (the Garath) and run a mostly silver bot hanger. I still advance up the ranks (I'm on the cusp of Diamond I in iOS now) and I'm still competitive. Do I get frustrated? yeah. Nobody likes loosing 10 or 15 matches in a row when you are trying to win. But that's just the way it bounces sometimes. But then you'll get a long run of wins, too. But I still play, and despite all the "conventional" wisdom of needing kbots or something like that to be competitive, I'm still usually (about 80% of the time) in the top 4 every game, win or lose. So what's the next excuse going to be? The Gep's were a problem. Then Rhino's. Then Fury's. Then the Brit bots. Now it's the Kbots. Then you'll find something else to 「female dog」 about with the next update. At some point you're (any of you that constantly 「female dog」) going to have to face the facts that either a) you just aren't any good, b) you are just a sore loser or c) you're the type that will blame everyone and everything else for your lack of ability. Or, you know, you can just get off the pot and "gitgud".
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 31, 2017 15:53:49 GMT -5
Way too little and way too late. Plus the fact he has a full set of Kbots with 900 wins and after not having played in enough time to get the "welcome back offers"? Ummm. I tend to think Pixo staff and the main online writers/youtubers should be forced to spend a considerable amount of time daily playing the game with silver and au bots/weapons only. The tone of a lot of articles/videos and, maybe, the game would change, then. Edit: Maybe (maybe) not Dredd, but there are HUGE undisclosed conflicts of interest in the professional or demi-professional commenting circle, which is even more annoying as the disconnect with the players' community grows farther and farther apart. Edit edit: and of course this has nothign to do with the OP, so I apologize and stop here. Y'all are hilarious. Really. All the ?female dog?ing and moaning about the meta this or the meta that, can't fight against whatever bot, etc. "OH YOU GOTTA HAVE KBOTS TO WIN!" or the "OH THE WHALES ARE KILLING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE *insert whatever blah here*". I continue to play, continue to have fun, continue to be frustrated and continue to advance. I've spent around $50 on the game, mostly for gold that I stupidly wasted on the event chests and what not. I still have all of 1 gold bot (the Garath) and run a mostly silver bot hanger. I still advance up the ranks (I'm on the cusp of Diamond I in iOS now) and I'm still competitive. Do I get frustrated? yeah. Nobody likes loosing 10 or 15 matches in a row when you are trying to win. But that's just the way it bounces sometimes. But then you'll get a long run of wins, too. But I still play, and despite all the "conventional" wisdom of needing kbots or something like that to be competitive, I'm still usually (about 80% of the time) in the top 4 every game, win or lose. So what's the next excuse going to be? The Gep's were a problem. Then Rhino's. Then Fury's. Then the Brit bots. Now it's the Kbots. Then you'll find something else to ?female dog? about with the next update. At some point you're (any of you that constantly ?female dog?) going to have to face the facts that either a) you just aren't any good, b) you are just a sore loser or c) you're the type that will blame everyone and everything else for your lack of ability. Or, you know, you can just get off the pot and "gitgud". Congrats for taking 15 whole lines to add literally nothing to the discussion while trying to establish yourself as some kind of paragon, even if it is not exactly clear why you should be. Gotta be some kind of skill, even if I'm not quite sure which kind of.
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Post by End of Line on Oct 31, 2017 16:05:07 GMT -5
Guys, how about we stop all of the complaints about the MM and the events and get back to offering good advice. This board has become nothing more than a place to post about how bad things have become. The admin team DOES play the same game you play so we and everyone else feels your pain. There is no need to keep posting the same thread with a different title every hour. Find things that work and offer advice. The problem with GS opinion is he wants players to be apathetic about the changes Pix has made to the game. The problem is when you hit the state of apathy you don't care about any aspect of the game including making any kind of post ,positive or negative on this forum. It doesn't seem that endless 「female dog」ing is good but it shows people really care about the health of the game. That's my 2 cents. End of line.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Oct 31, 2017 16:23:18 GMT -5
I might puke a little in my mouth writing this, but I will defend Dredd a bit in light of what Dejnov said. Although I am also defending Dejnov, so I’m not really picking sides. I used to have the same view about Dredd as Dejnov. No matter what they did, Dredd wrote articles and made posts praising them to the high Heavens.
But then you have to step back and look to realize that wasn’t entirely his fault, and most of us likely would have been the same in his shoes. He had(has?) a totally different relationship with Pixonic than the rest of us. While he wasn’t paid, or employed, he was compensated in a way. They sponsored his events, communicated and shared plans with him, and even gave him a free clubber account to have fun with. Opinions of all that aside, that’s a very positive relationship between point A(Dredd) and point B(Pixonic), and we were point C looking in from the outside. So why would Dredd have reason to bash Pixonic when his experience was positive and he really didn’t have the same perspective as us?
Given all that, it seems, at least recently, that he’s been publishing and commenting much more honest and objective things about Pixonic - see: 5 piece article on if/how Pixonic has ruined War Robots, a vote that he had to know was going to paint Pixonic in a terrible light with the yes/no trust poll, etc.
Personal history aside, he’s turning a leaf and writing things as they are. Whether that be a realization that things from our side have been different than he’s seen it, a change in his relationship with the company, or whatever, he has been more to the point and up front about what’s actually going on lately.
Now in Dejnov’s defense, just take another look at the first half of my post. You cannot blame him for having that personal opinion of the guy given his history of articles about the company. It took half a year after they began destroying the game for him to publicly post or publish something in a negative light about Pixonic. Basically, let’s just appreciate Dejnov for having his own opinion, and appreciate Dredd for starting to call Pixonic out when they deserve it. I don’t feel like Dejnov’s comment was all that malice and doubt he would actually get punished for it, but my opinion is the 50 cent gif was well warranted and pretty much puts that to rest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 16:33:23 GMT -5
Basically, let’s just appreciate Dejnov for having his own opinion, and appreciate Dredd for starting to call Pixonic out when they deserve it. No. Dejnov made his opinion known in a very childish and insulting way. That's what's wrong here in my opinion more than anything. The outright disrespect.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Oct 31, 2017 16:42:18 GMT -5
Basically, let’s just appreciate Dejnov for having his own opinion, and appreciate Dredd for starting to call Pixonic out when they deserve it. No. Dejnov made his opinion known in a very childish and insulting way. That's what's wrong here in my opinion more than anything. The outright disrespect. Well, I tried. Perhaps I shouldn’t have used the word “appreciate”. I was meaning moreso the fact that he has his own opinion, not appreciate the manner in which he expressed it. It wasn’t the most mature or respectful way to share his opinion, but I don’t think it was said purely out of malice or personal attack. It seemed more to me like he was just trying to give an example of that type of mindset. Like I said, I don’t think it was necessary and it definitely could have been said in a nicer manner, but I think we’re being a little overly sensitive if we do anything beyond saying “hey that was kinda uncalled for”.
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Post by Dejnov on Oct 31, 2017 17:53:28 GMT -5
Basically, letâs just appreciate Dejnov for having his own opinion, and appreciate Dredd for starting to call Pixonic out when they deserve it. No. Dejnov made his opinion known in a very childish and insulting way. That's what's wrong here in my opinion more than anything. The outright disrespect.
Kiss my 「bum-bum」 @heavypanda! Prior to my post Golden Sabre told us peasants to quit 「female dog」ing and keep playing irrespective of the stacked deck that is currently being handed out to us or GTFO. Where was your feigned indignation and childish and insulting comments to him about his post? This whole post series devolved before I even got to the end of it. You can take your morals and your polite and refined discourse and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
You're full of 「dookie」 and a hypocrite.
Dejnov
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 18:39:54 GMT -5
No. Dejnov made his opinion known in a very childish and insulting way. That's what's wrong here in my opinion more than anything. The outright disrespect.Â
Kiss my ?bum-bum? @heavypanda! Prior to my post Golden Sabre told us peasants to quit ?female dog?ing and keep playing irrespective of the stacked deck that is currently being handed out to us or GTFO. Where was your feigned indignation and childish and insulting comments to him about his post? This whole post series devolved before I even got to the end of it. You can take your morals and your polite and refined discourse and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
You're full of ?poo-poo? and a hypocrite.
Dejnov
Just no. I'm not going to play "internet tough guy" with you today bub. Ammended to add: I respect you as a poster, which is why I pointed out your poor form. Come on dude, saying that a respected member of this little community has his head up anyone's 「bum-bum」 isn't how we talk to each other. GS pointed out to me a few weeks ago when I was being an 「bum-bum」, and I am just passing along the same courtesy to you.
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Post by zer00eyz on Oct 31, 2017 19:19:25 GMT -5
Okay everyone, I see all of your points. Here's mine : Quit ?female dog?ing or quit playing. The game isnt going to change for the benefit of the F2P pilots. IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. Simply put NO. If my incessant 「female dog」ing gets ONE Person who just picked up the game to put it down then mission 「fluffernutter」ing accomplished. Pix needs to fix its 「dookie」 and listen to its players, or the players are going to tear the game down. You think it is just here? Lets go look at the reaction to Dredd77 and his mech spectrum post on the war robots page. The split -- %50 like %50 angry. People are getting angry over free battle titans bots and charity. > IMHO, Pix is on a last ditch effort to get every ruble before the last 20 players left in the game are maxed out whales enjoying a circle jerk because there's nobody left to club. This is what you think but you want us to stop 「female dog」ing? We enjoy the game and are fighting for it, your telling us to stop 「female dog」ing, to stop whining and to quit... Honestly YOU sound like you don't think its worth the effort and it is on the way out so why don't YOU just give up now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 19:32:41 GMT -5
You think it is just here? Lets go look at the reaction to Dredd77 and his mech spectrum post on the war robots page. The split -- %50 like %50 angry. People are getting angry over free battle titans bots and charity. Slightly off topic, but this says more about the pettiness of the community than their righteous anger. It's charity for sick kids ffs
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Post by pirateb0t on Oct 31, 2017 19:46:46 GMT -5
Way too little and way too late. Plus the fact he has a full set of Kbots with 900 wins and after not having played in enough time to get the "welcome back offers"? Ummm. I tend to think Pixo staff and the main online writers/youtubers should be forced to spend a considerable amount of time daily playing the game with silver and au bots/weapons only. The tone of a lot of articles/videos and, maybe, the game would change, then. Edit: Maybe (maybe) not Dredd, but there are HUGE undisclosed conflicts of interest in the professional or demi-professional commenting circle, which is even more annoying as the disconnect with the players' community grows farther and farther apart. Edit edit: and of course this has nothign to do with the OP, so I apologize and stop here. Y'all are hilarious. Really. All the ?female dog?ing and moaning about the meta this or the meta that, can't fight against whatever bot, etc. "OH YOU GOTTA HAVE KBOTS TO WIN!" or the "OH THE WHALES ARE KILLING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE *insert whatever blah here*". I continue to play, continue to have fun, continue to be frustrated and continue to advance. I've spent around $50 on the game, mostly for gold that I stupidly wasted on the event chests and what not. I still have all of 1 gold bot (the Garath) and run a mostly silver bot hanger. I still advance up the ranks (I'm on the cusp of Diamond I in iOS now) and I'm still competitive. Do I get frustrated? yeah. Nobody likes loosing 10 or 15 matches in a row when you are trying to win. But that's just the way it bounces sometimes. But then you'll get a long run of wins, too. But I still play, and despite all the "conventional" wisdom of needing kbots or something like that to be competitive, I'm still usually (about 80% of the time) in the top 4 every game, win or lose. So what's the next excuse going to be? The Gep's were a problem. Then Rhino's. Then Fury's. Then the Brit bots. Now it's the Kbots. Then you'll find something else to ?female dog? about with the next update. At some point you're (any of you that constantly ?female dog?) going to have to face the facts that either a) you just aren't any good, b) you are just a sore loser or c) you're the type that will blame everyone and everything else for your lack of ability. Or, you know, you can just get off the pot and "gitgud". So you're saying it's all just skill and bots/weapons have nothing to do with it? You're a diamond level player..you really don't know what you're talking about right now. Just wait until you get to upper expert/masters and you start seeing entire hangars of dash mk2's with full maxed mk2 weapons. Every single game i'm in now has beasts like this coming to play. Last game I saw a dude with a full hangar of all maxed mk2 inquisitors with mk2 embers on the other team. As a f2p player you can play exceptionally dirty (like I do) so you don't get totally bent over by the whales but the skill gap narrows considerably the higher you go where everyone has a pretty good baseline of skills. Plus if you play beacons and get dropped on something like beacon rush the p2w difference becomes very stark.
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Post by pirateb0t on Oct 31, 2017 19:55:07 GMT -5
This "quit 「female dog」in' or stop playing" argument is quite possibly the worst one i'm seeing here.
If you like something enough and see problems with it then of course you should try and speak up to salvage it. This goes for everything in life whether it be something petty like a robots game or something big like government injustices.
Once you're willing to take it up the rear end repeatedly in life it more or less defines you as a complacent loser who lets people and situations run all over you.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Oct 31, 2017 20:01:41 GMT -5
Some truly great points have been made here . It wasn't my intention to start a flame war nor get people to quit. I sincerely hope Pix fixes the game to resemble the game we all fell in love with. My point is simply this....there are entirely too many threads bashing what the game has become and I put it on the community's shoulders to make the forum a place where we can come for good advice again and not a place to moan everytime you get clubbed by the whales who manipulate the system just to prey on those with morals. These are the same pieces of garbage who made all their profits by clubbing with mag-geps. With that said, i am locking this thread as no more good can come from further posts.
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