abracadabra
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Post by abracadabra on Dec 21, 2016 21:25:53 GMT -5
Hi everyone!
I have a five bots: see below screenshot
There is a problem with my Leo. I want to use it for medium distance.
So, could you please give me an advice which one would be prefer / more suitable for Leo? |
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Post by Curry Pot on Dec 21, 2016 21:29:27 GMT -5
Trident CRV Leo is the most common medium range leo and is arguably the most useful one too. You could alternatively mount a Zeus if you can stomach the cost, but it's hard to justify purchasing one and the Trident is often the better choice for your heavy slot.
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abracadabra
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Post by abracadabra on Dec 21, 2016 21:53:15 GMT -5
Trident CRV Leo is the most common medium range leo and is arguably the most useful one too. You could alternatively mount a Zeus if you can stomach the cost, but it's hard to justify purchasing one and the Trident is often the better choice for your heavy slot.
Thank you for your answer, Curry Pot
Despite the fact that Zeus cost a lot - which one would you choose personally?
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Post by Strayed on Dec 21, 2016 22:37:03 GMT -5
First of all, replace the magnum and molot on your griffin with crv pins.
Next of all, midrange leos are generally sub-par compared to what you'll see out there. The thunder triple aphid leo is arguably the best leo.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 22, 2016 3:12:53 GMT -5
Aphids are costly. Maybe use Mags, instead.
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Post by zeus on Dec 22, 2016 7:02:39 GMT -5
Also, Galahad is a medium bot. At high silver which is 6/8 and 735 score, they can go up to 9/10 if I remember correctly which gets them a score below 735.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 22, 2016 7:08:06 GMT -5
Also, Galahad is a medium bot. At high silver which is 6/8 and 735 score, they can go up to 9/10 if I remember correctly which gets them a score below 735. 9/10 gala is in my gold hangar. Pretty sure that 7/9 is the cap for high silver meds. The tier score page isn't really relevant anymore. |
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Post by JstKnwImThad on Dec 22, 2016 7:26:10 GMT -5
Pothead leo (ancile-aphid) is trending now since the aphid buff but it is costly. But if you want a mid-ranged leo trident-CRV is an effective setup imo
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Post by RightOn on Dec 22, 2016 8:02:45 GMT -5
Something like 500k dpm!  |
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Post by miatahead on Dec 22, 2016 13:14:28 GMT -5
As others have said, best midrange Leo is Trident CRV Pin and it doesn't cost any gold. Not quite as much damage as a Trident Fury and 100m less range. But at max level, each will take 4 volleys to kill each other. Downside is that Leo will be exposed to RDB in order to be effective.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 22, 2016 15:53:52 GMT -5
Something like 500k dpm! What did we say about recommending the anicle mag leo to others? |
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Dec 22, 2016 17:02:27 GMT -5
If you're running a RDB Griff already I would make the Leo into a pinata thunder knifer if you're set on it.
Otherwise I would recommend a Trident pins Natasha over a mid range Leo. A Trident is worth far more to a midranger than an extra Pins.
(At Max)
Trident pins Leo: 51282 per volley
Trident pins Nat: 61588 per volley
The HP difference between the bots is less of an issue as you "shouldn't" be getting into knife fights with a midranger. Thus the focus should be on solid DPM and splash.
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Post by moody on Dec 22, 2016 18:57:10 GMT -5
If you're running a Russian Death Button Griff already I would make the Leo into a pinata thunder knifer if you're set on it. Otherwise I would recommend a Trident pins Natasha over a mid range Leo. A Trident is worth far more to a midranger than an extra Pins. (At Max) Trident pins Leo: 51282 per volley Trident pins Nat: 61588 per volley The HP difference between the bots is less of an issue as you "shouldn't" be getting into knife fights with a midranger. Thus the focus should be on solid DPM and splash. The HP does make a difference and the natasha has a harder time getting behind cover and has a bigger silhouette. |
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 22, 2016 20:49:39 GMT -5
I have had luck with Zeus/Molot and Zeus/Gekko Leo's for mid-range, but this was before the flooding of shield bots so YMMV. The extra range of the Molots was nice however.
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Post by Duodec on Dec 22, 2016 23:40:00 GMT -5
The Leo has the advantage of speed too. You can get into position faster which makes those less powerful shots more effective and significantly increase survivability. The Natasha is squishy and too slow to really compare with the Leo.
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Post by zombies4kids on Jan 17, 2017 1:48:09 GMT -5
Anyone ever tried Ancile + 3Mag/Pinata (level 8 or 9)? I figure the Ancile will catch most of the Hardpoint damage (at least the initial barrage) while the 120K+ HP will hopfully provide enough HP for Leo to take on Energy weapon and give you enough time to take out the opponent.. thoughts?
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Post by ronin on Jan 17, 2017 3:15:32 GMT -5
The Leo has the advantage of speed too. You can get into position faster which makes those less powerful shots more effective and significantly increase survivability. The Natasha is squishy and too slow to really compare with the Leo. Now when we get updated Leo and Natasha soon how things will change? Leo will be faster still, and have more hitpoints. But Natasha will get more mobility allso. Have some of you considered taking her for a ride and try her out after update? |
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Post by phoenix232 on Jan 17, 2017 8:17:28 GMT -5
Ancile/Thunder/Mag(or Pinata) Leo meta after patch drops.. Calling it now, lol.
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 17, 2017 8:19:36 GMT -5
The best setup on the Leo in gold is the Ancile/Aphids.
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Post by ☆ CORVUSNEX ☆ on Jan 17, 2017 9:25:56 GMT -5
Anyone ever tried Ancile + 3Mag/Pinata (level 8 or 9)? I figure the Ancile will catch most of the Hardpoint damage (at least the initial barrage) while the 120K+ HP will hopfully provide enough HP for Leo to take on Energy weapon and give you enough time to take out the opponent.. thoughts? Not a good idea.
Removing the Leo's heavy weapon for an Ancile drops the Leo's firepower two weight classes, and makes it a slow Gepard. Yes, the Ancile will provide increased survivability, for about 30 seconds, until some bot with a Thunder drops your Ancile from 500m away then eats you alive. A tri-mag Gepard is a terror because of its speed and firepower compared to its opponents in the tier in which it lives. Using a Leo automatically bumps you into silver tier where opponents are more powerful and the Ancile would not help much.
As a comparison, a Lancelot with an Ancile still has the firepower of a medium bot (the Rog), but a Leo with an Ancile has the firepower of a light bot (Gepard).
With the Ancile buff that is coming soon, the Ancile Leo (Pothead) would probably still be okay with Aphids even after the accuracy adjustment. I feel that would be the only effective Ancile Leo setup. An Aphid-chucker that can survive many rounds of counterbattery fire.
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Post by zombies4kids on Jan 17, 2017 19:54:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the explaination.. very helpful!  |
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 18, 2017 7:11:17 GMT -5
Ancile/Thunder/Mag(or Pinata) Leo meta after patch drops.. Calling it now, lol. Glue the Thunder on top of the Ancile? |
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 18, 2017 7:13:49 GMT -5
Not a good idea.
Removing the Leo's heavy weapon for an Ancile drops the Leo's firepower two weight classes, and makes it a slow Gepard. +1. Also, good players know that Ancile robots have to be attacked with energy weapons. Whenever I'm running a Plasmahad, I'll always attack ancile robots when I get the chance. |
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 18, 2017 7:29:03 GMT -5
A Leo? I'm using a trident molot Leo. I know it sounds strange but imo it's quite useful as it outranges other midrange setups like the RDB griff, as well as being able to shred stuff from beyond trident range due to the 3 molots. Plus, the molots can provide surpressive fire so that you can reload your trident relatively safely. Furthermore, it has more range than a trident pin Leo so it can keep its distance and shred stuff from 600m, or cover it's retreat with the Molots if necessary.
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Post by ☆ CORVUSNEX ☆ on Jan 19, 2017 16:08:11 GMT -5
A Leo? I'm using a trident molot Leo. I know it sounds strange but imo it's quite useful as it outranges other midrange setups like the RDB griff, as well as being able to shred stuff from beyond trident range due to the 3 molots. Plus, the molots can provide surpressive fire so that you can reload your trident relatively safely. Furthermore, it has more range than a trident pin Leo so it can keep its distance and shred stuff from 600m, or cover it's retreat with the Molots if necessary. Nice setup. I should try that. |
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 19, 2017 17:07:23 GMT -5
The Molots need to be like level 8 at least for the setup to be effective, and it's kinda useless against britbots.
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Jan 19, 2017 17:28:15 GMT -5
Leo is my sweet sexy b!tch.. Got mine geared up with a Trident, dual crv pins and an Aphid for experimental test runs seems to be amazing. I'm surprised I never gave Leo any trigger time before.,
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Post by [ധ¡к¡] oDDD on Jan 19, 2017 18:36:58 GMT -5
With Ancile buff and more hp, Ancile Aphid Leo is a beast, can loiter forever and harass. Aphids still hurt alot, and taller leo seems to somewhat negate the reduced Arc.
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Post by phoenix232 on Jan 19, 2017 23:25:36 GMT -5
Ancile/Thunder/Mag(or Pinata) Leo meta after patch drops.. Calling it now, lol. Glue the Thunder on top of the Ancile? Err, Natasha.. Lol! |
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Post by Fredrick on Apr 14, 2017 14:31:36 GMT -5
A Leo? I'm using a trident molot Leo. I know it sounds strange but imo it's quite useful as it outranges other midrange setups like the RDB griff, as well as being able to shred stuff from beyond trident range due to the 3 molots. Plus, the molots can provide surpressive fire so that you can reload your trident relatively safely. Furthermore, it has more range than a trident pin Leo so it can keep its distance and shred stuff from 600m, or cover it's retreat with the Molots if necessary. I just started running this and it works amazing! I was never a fan of the tident/pin setup but the molots give me that extra range and the trident's splash works for reds that want to hide. Even though the trident/molot Natasha has more DPS - it is pretty fragile. Leo just keeps ticking. Just some thoughts. |
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