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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 12:45:33 GMT -5
The "War Robots Wall Street" series comes to a conclusion today on the Diary, as I take a look at a ton of the new deals- including those eyebrow-raising, cringe-inducing WSP ones. |
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Post by Paps on Jun 12, 2017 12:59:43 GMT -5
Been waitin' for this one. More for the replies than the actual article, almost ?
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 13:03:38 GMT -5
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Post by zer00eyz on Jun 12, 2017 13:08:13 GMT -5
Good read, the bit about your brother charging more for work he doesn't want, just a bit too close to home.
You clearly spent a lot of time on spreadsheets, if at all possible is there a chance you can throw them up on google docs?
The next time "deals" come out we would be able to run our own numbers!
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Post by justsomeguy on Jun 12, 2017 13:27:21 GMT -5
I would just want to point out that we don't know the exchange rates between RM/gold/silver/WSP. What you're using is comparing worst and best available bulk discounts. For example, the Premium can be also gained by gifting gold to your clan mate and it is 12 hours for 500 gold or $4.99 (not from the US so just guessing the price here). That is most definitely much worse actual than your worst actual. But again, it may be much better than the unknown exchange rate. Just messing with you, great read  |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 13:52:53 GMT -5
While there are several steps involved, it is entirely possible and rather straightforward for calculate the exact real money value of every in game currency. You do a great job of that hear, but I also think you're being too kind on Pixonic. They've clearly just arbitrarily picked numbers as MSRP in order to decieve people into thinking it's a deal. Similar to how many stores will mark things up 200%, and have them permanently on sale for 50% off.
The difference in this case is that it's easy to actually calculate the real cost of these deals without a discount, and the number they've listed pretty much never matches.
Going deeper into the issue, the prices for premium items in this game have always been outrageous when you compare to other mobile games. This has been mitigated by the fact that it's never been a true pay-to-win game, and the fact that the prices weren't frequently shoved in your face. So it was easy to simply forget about the fact that you basically have to pay $100 for a single good bot with good weapons. (Slight exaggeration)
Basically, people have always had a gripe with the steep prices Pixonic charges for little in return. I think I did a calculation a while back based on the endgame meta, and it would've cost at the time over $4,700 to get a maxed top tier hangar from scratch. In most mobile games, you can buy top level everything for anywhere between $500-$1,500. Far less than what Pixonic demands. But, you don't NEED to spend money in War Robots to get there eventually, and it didn't constantly remind you how much things cost.
Now, these deals are constantly shoving it in our face that it costs $45-70 for SINGLE ITEMS. Items that aren't even the best items. On top of the fact that the "sale" prices are based entirely on made up figures. They didn't even take the time to figure out the actual prices of their merchandise when they are readily and easily available to everyone. So the outrage is a result of the already steep prices being forced in our face every day with a cloak of obvious deception around the entire thing.
That's my take on it at least. I just don't buy any of the deals, so it really doesn't affect me much. Even though I'm not buying anything, the fact that they're doing what they're doing, and many many people are likely falling for it angers me. The most recent one I saw was silver. 33mil for something like $75. That's $75 to upgrade one single item from level 11 to level 12. Or two items from 10 to 11. That's a slap in the face I'm not willing to take.
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Jun 12, 2017 14:17:05 GMT -5
Really great job! Only one thing some android players postet gold deals, I did get none. I had exactly the ones you showed, and that Jesse would be really good if it wasn't for the damn magnums. They should have sold 4 aphids with it, as its the best built IMO and REALLY fun. Would be significantly cheaper, too..
cool that you put the time in to crunch those numbers, I mean everybody felt the quality of the deals but facts are facts.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 14:20:12 GMT -5
While there are several steps involved, it is entirely possible and rather straightforward for calculate the exact real money value of every in game currency. You do a great job of that hear, but I also think you're being too kind on Pixonic. They've clearly just arbitrarily picked numbers as MSRP in order to decieve people into thinking it's a deal. Similar to how many stores will mark things up 200%, and have them permanently on sale for 50% off. I think you may have missed some of the point, or perhaps I wasn't clear enough. IF Pixo was deliberately trying to fluff their deals, they would not have ome up with the pricing levels they did. YES, some prices are overhyped. But some others- crucially- are underhyped. It's my conclusion that Hanlon's Razor applies here. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Although I think it was more carelessness than "stupidity," the principle applies. As for the Silver deal being a "slap in the face," you may feel that way, but that doesn't mean others might take it a different way. I snapped up this "slap in the face" for my iOS and ANdroid accounts. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 14:37:30 GMT -5
Dredd77I've gathered from your blog, which is informative and enjoyable, that you have a decently sized expendable income. Many of us mobile players don't, so these prices come as a slap to the face. Going back to the maxed out cost. I'm currently between 8 and 9 levels in my hangar. Which is decently far along in the game. If I wanted to max out my current hangar (only my currently active bots and weapons, half of which will likely be obsolete in the next couple of months due to strategically designed buffs and nerfs to force player investment), it would cost approximately $1,350 just to purchase the Silver through this deal. And that would be IF I was allowed to purchase the deal 18 times. Additionally, that doesn't include the gold it would take to speed up the upgrades, which would be about $250 more. I understand that time has a financial value. I'm a finance major. Opportunity cost is real. And it applies to every fraction of every second of your life. Every single thing you do in your life, you could be doing something else. And I get that it would take almost 20 hours of solid gameplay with premium in order to accumulate 33,500,000 silver. Assuming 300k silver per match at 10minute matches. So ~$3.50 per hour would seem like a fairly low financial cost. But there is also an entertainment value you gain from playing the game. Is the lack of happiness and entertainment you lose from not spending that 20 hours actually playing equivalent to the benefit you'll receive from making the purchase up front? These are personal preferences and we could go on for days, so I'll stop rambling about that. I'll go back to one of my other points. The deal points out fundamental issues that most people have with the game, and amplifies them. The silver deal is ridiculously expensive by most people's standards. But it doesn't stop there. What are the subconscious effects? It reminds you that the most common, "free" resource in the game is actually the most valuable, necessary, and most expensive resource in the game. It reminds you that it is unreasonably difficult to acquire silver through gameplay, and that the best way to get silver quickly is to exploit the game in ways that ruin gameplay. It reminds you that, even though a tiered silver reward system based on your league would all but eliminate tanking, there is still no bonus in silver per game in higher, more difficult leagues. It goes beyond the simple fact that the deal is a bad deal financially for the majority of people. Not only is it that, but it's a big highlighter/arrow that points to fundamental flaws in the game that people are already angry about, but don't think about regularly.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 14:44:52 GMT -5
mijapi300 SIngle income, father of four with one on the way, it's probably not nearly as large as you think.  I do, however, permit myself to sell the assets of one hobby to fund another, and I've recently liquidated my L5R RPG collection. On that basis, War Robots might not have been the wisest choice from the perspective of a future hobby. I don't, however, agree with your assessment that Silver is "unreasonably" difficult. The game has to have a certain pace, which allows forward progression in a steady manner. I don't disagree about some of the ancillary issues such as players tanking, but there are always people willing to shortcut to get what they feel entitled to.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 15:14:54 GMT -5
Dredd77People are enticed to tank. As I broke down in a thread that I went ahead and just put up in the Rant section to save you the time lol. A tiered silver reward system based on league would basically eliminate all tanking except for the people that simply want to troll noobs. Which is a lot smaller of a portion of players than those that are doing so for the in game reward. It's such a simple solution, yet they haven't even entertained the idea that I've seen anywhere.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 15:17:41 GMT -5
Not to mention, having things you can sell to fund your hobbies is a form of expendable income. Personally, I'm 28, newly married and a new home owner. I haven't accumulated any assets through hobbies, so my expendable income is restricted to what I have left at the end of the month when all the bills are paid. Which isn't much. Also, being a single father alone says nothing about expendable income. If your one income is 200k a year, then you have plenty of expendable income even with the four(five) kids. Not saying you do, I'm just saying you should take your financial situation into account compared to that of others when responding to their opinions or concerns. Not everyone is in the same boat.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 15:18:49 GMT -5
Dredd77 People are enticed to tank. As I broke down in a thread that I went ahead and just put up in the Rant section to save you the time lol. A tiered silver reward system based on league would basically eliminate all tanking except for the people that simply want to troll noobs. Which is a lot smaller of a portion of players than those that are doing so for the in game reward. It's such a simple solution, yet they haven't even entertained the idea that I've seen anywhere. People have "enticements" to do all sorts of things. That doesn't make it any less their choice when they do them. You can often tell when someone's subconscious tells them what they're doing stinks by the lengths they'll go to rationalize it. "I'm not stealing from the company, I'm just making up for the substandard wages they've paid me all this time!" I wouldn't mind seeing rewards scale with league. But I don't salt the game because they don't. Upgrades come at a measured pace, and there are advantages to that as well. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 15:24:47 GMT -5
Not to mention, having things you can sell to fund your hobbies is a form of expendable income. Personally, I'm 28, newly married and a new home owner. I haven't accumulated any assets through hobbies, so my expendable income is restricted to what I have left at the end of the month when all the bills are paid. Which isn't much. Also, being a single father alone says nothing about expendable income. If your one income is 200k a year, then you have plenty of expendable income even with the four(five) kids. Not saying you do, I'm just saying you should take your financial situation into account compared to that of others when responding to their opinions or concerns. Not everyone is in the same boat. I'd be more sympathetic to this view if we were discussing something other than an absolute luxury and entertainment item here. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 15:36:55 GMT -5
Not to mention, having things you can sell to fund your hobbies is a form of expendable income. Personally, I'm 28, newly married and a new home owner. I haven't accumulated any assets through hobbies, so my expendable income is restricted to what I have left at the end of the month when all the bills are paid. Which isn't much. Also, being a single father alone says nothing about expendable income. If your one income is 200k a year, then you have plenty of expendable income even with the four(five) kids. Not saying you do, I'm just saying you should take your financial situation into account compared to that of others when responding to their opinions or concerns. Not everyone is in the same boat. I'd be more sympathetic to this view if we were discussing something other than an absolute luxury and entertainment item here. You're consistently ignoring what I say and forcing your opinion upon me. I'm not entitled, nor have I said or felt that I am. When I say there should be a tiered silver reward system, it doesn't mean they have to double the current rewards. They can half the current bronze rewards and leave champion as the current rewards. And have LQ rewards be half of what you would get in bronze. Then, upgrade speed would not increase, and I'd be happy. Weird, huh? That doesn't go with your personally preconceived view of what I want, does it? I'm presenting a simple solution to a problem that Pixonic has not only not fixed, but have rewarded. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 15:39:03 GMT -5
I'd be more sympathetic to this view if we were discussing something other than an absolute luxury and entertainment item here. You're consistently ignoring what I say and forcing your opinion upon me. I'm not entitled, nor have I said or felt that I am. When I say there should be a tiered silver reward system, it doesn't mean they have to double the current rewards. They can half the current bronze rewards and leave champion as the current rewards. And have LQ rewards be half of what you would get in bronze. Then, upgrade speed would not increase, and I'd be happy. Weird, huh? That doesn't go with your personally preconceived view of what I want, does it? I'm presenting a simple solution to a problem that Pixonic has not only not fixed, but have rewarded. I'm "forcing" my opinion on you? You realize you're posting on a public message board which, by its very concept, invites reply? I know you don't feel you're entitled, but your posts in my estimation point very strongly in a different direction. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 15:46:39 GMT -5
Dredd77 People are enticed to tank. As I broke down in a thread that I went ahead and just put up in the Rant section to save you the time lol. A tiered silver reward system based on league would basically eliminate all tanking except for the people that simply want to troll noobs. Which is a lot smaller of a portion of players than those that are doing so for the in game reward. It's such a simple solution, yet they haven't even entertained the idea that I've seen anywhere. People have "enticements" to do all sorts of things. That doesn't make it any less their choice when they do them. You can often tell when someone's subconscious tells them what they're doing stinks by the lengths they'll go to rationalize it. "I'm not stealing from the company, I'm just making up for the substandard wages they've paid me all this time!" I wouldn't mind seeing rewards scale with league. But I don't salt the game because they don't. Upgrades come at a measured pace, and there are advantages to that as well. If I didn't like my wages, I'd search for a new job. I have applied that to my gaming time as well. I spend far less time on War Robots lately because of the things I've spelled out. The entertainment and enjoyment reward(for me) is diminishing, and I've stated several of the reasons I feel that way. And it's not unreasonable to compare one mobile game to other mobile games and question why similar purchases are 3-4x more espensive. I credit a portion of that to the fact that War Robots is considerably better than most other mobile games in my opinion. It's more complete, it doesn't force you to pay to play, and it's entertaining. But just because I like some aspects of the game doesn't mean I have to just shut up and take the bad with the good. I understand that you feel that's what people should do, but I don't see how the game can progress in a positive direction if that were the case. So our opinions differ there. The fact that our opinions differ does not change who you are as a person, however. You are (generally) a very respectful person, and one that is very knowledgeable and thoughtful. I don't know if you had a rough weekend or are just having a bad day, but I'm also not going to hold it against you or attack you for it. Our opinions clearly differ on the subject of pricing for a mobile game. But I don't discredit you or think less of you for the fact that you place a higher value on the game and have a higher value of your time than I do. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 15:47:29 GMT -5
You're consistently ignoring what I say and forcing your opinion upon me. I'm not entitled, nor have I said or felt that I am. When I say there should be a tiered silver reward system, it doesn't mean they have to double the current rewards. They can half the current bronze rewards and leave champion as the current rewards. And have LQ rewards be half of what you would get in bronze. Then, upgrade speed would not increase, and I'd be happy. Weird, huh? That doesn't go with your personally preconceived view of what I want, does it? I'm presenting a simple solution to a problem that Pixonic has not only not fixed, but have rewarded. I'm "forcing" my opinion on you? You realize you're posting on a public message board which, by its very concept, invites reply? I know you don't feel you're entitled, but your posts in my estimation point very strongly in a different direction. Because I feel like something is overpriced, that makes me entitled? I'm failing to follow your logic. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 15:50:03 GMT -5
People have "enticements" to do all sorts of things. That doesn't make it any less their choice when they do them. You can often tell when someone's subconscious tells them what they're doing stinks by the lengths they'll go to rationalize it. "I'm not stealing from the company, I'm just making up for the substandard wages they've paid me all this time!" I wouldn't mind seeing rewards scale with league. But I don't salt the game because they don't. Upgrades come at a measured pace, and there are advantages to that as well. If I didn't like my wages, I'd search for a new job. I have applied that to my gaming time as well. I spend far less time on War Robots lately because of the things I've spelled out. The entertainment and enjoyment reward(for me) is diminishing, and I've stated several of the reasons I feel that way. And it's not unreasonable to compare one mobile game to other mobile games and question why similar purchases are 3-4x more espensive. I credit a portion of that to the fact that War Robots is considerably better than most other mobile games in my opinion. It's more complete, it doesn't force you to pay to play, and it's entertaining. But just because I like some aspects of the game doesn't mean I have to just shut up and take the bad with the good. I understand that you feel that's what people should do, but I don't see how the game can progress in a positive direction if that were the case. So our opinions differ there. The fact that our opinions differ does not change who you are as a person, however. You are (generally) a very respectful person, and one that is very knowledgeable and thoughtful. I don't know if you had a rough weekend or are just having a bad day, but I'm also not going to hold it against you or attack you for it. Our opinions clearly differ on the subject of pricing for a mobile game. But I don't discredit you or think less of you for the fact that you place a higher value on the game and have a higher value of your time than I do. Fair enough! Declarative statements absent supporting evidence (ie "the game is losing players") are increasingly becoming a pet peeve of mine. Perhaps you just fell afoul of that. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 16:04:22 GMT -5
Dredd77 I don't think I said today that the game is losing players. I would be inclined to believe it is, because I don't believe Pixonic would've held a round table if they weren't struggling financially. But that isn't solid proof so I would claim it as a fact that the game is losing players. The things I claim as fact are legitimate facts (i.e. the WW bots are ~300% overpriced compared to their class equivalents, it costs ~$4700 to buy a max hangar, etc). Things that I interject in those, such as the fact they're going to nerf/buff the current meta out in a few months is based on historical evidence. I've never seen a game before this one that will sell certain items that are at the time the best in the game, and then change in game stats after the cash infow to make them obsolete. I think I just have an issue with bad business. It's my pet peeve. I have a very financial and business focused mindset. Even in restaurants and bars and what not, if I see bad business or bad work, it bugs me. The fact that I have a public forum to discuss this game, I can air those grievances, so I do.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 16:08:01 GMT -5
Dredd77 I don't think I said today that the game is losing players. I would be inclined to believe it is, because I don't believe Pixonic would've held a round table if they weren't struggling financially. But that isn't solid proof so I would claim it as a fact that the game is losing players. The things I claim as fact are legitimate facts (i.e. the WW bots are ~300% overpriced compared to their class equivalents, it costs ~$4700 to buy a max hangar, etc). Things that I interject in those, such as the fact they're going to nerf/buff the current meta out in a few months is based on historical evidence. I've never seen a game before this one that will sell certain items that are at the time the best in the game, and then change in game stats after the cash infow to make them obsolete. I think I just have an issue with bad business. It's my pet peeve. I have a very financial and business focused mindset. Even in restaurants and bars and what not, if I see bad business or bad work, it bugs me. The fact that I have a public forum to discuss this game, I can air those grievances, so I do. Note that "overpriced" is not a 'legitimate fact' here, it's a value statement/opinion. You're a business student, surely you're just overlooking the added value exclusivity an bring? |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 16:30:34 GMT -5
Dredd77 You're correct that it is just a difference in opinion based on perceived value. Exclusivity is a valuable characteristic in real markets, although I wouldn't consider these bots to be very exclusive anymore (again, that's opinion based). They're readily available with no limited supply to anyone willing to pay the price. Part of the exclusivity premium in real world markets is cause by a real, tangible lack of supply. These bots had that when they were exclusively offered during events and then off the market. Other games achieve this exclusivity by offering a fixed amount of an item, and then it's off the market forever. Pixonic puts itself in a corner by first offering the item under the assumption that it's exclusive to an event and then later putting it on the market. You can't offer it for cheaper prices than it cost just a few weeks ago without pissing off those that bought the item when they thought it was limited edition. But now you're charging 3x the price for an item compared to other items with similar characteristics. A simple comparison to a real market would be limited edition artwork. It's sold at a premium because it's a limited supply and it's exclusive. What if the artist sold 10 pieces for $50k each because they're the only 10 copies in the world. And then later that year, the artist prints 500,000 more copies. Can he sell those for $50k each? Probably not. Should he charge less for them? Probably not. The solution would've been not deceiving people into thinking they were going to be exclusive in the first place. In a real world situation, those first 10 buyers would likely win a lawsuit against the artist. I'm rambling again, however, because you can't fully apply real world financial theories to a mobile game because the fundamental aspects of the markets are so much different. You can apply some the basic principles of finance to the mobile market though, and what Pixonic is doing doesn't exactly make sense from a financial or business standpoint.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 12, 2017 17:04:08 GMT -5
Other games achieve this exclusivity by offering a fixed amount of an item, and then it's off the market forever. Pixonic puts itself in a corner by first offering the item under the assumption that it's exclusive to an event and then later putting it on the market. You can't offer it for cheaper prices than it cost just a few weeks ago without pissing off those that bought the item when they thought it was limited edition. There you go again. Pixonic "put itself in a corner," did it? Please provide a link to where they ever said it was "exclusive to an event." There's nothing wrong with scaling availability over time. Jaysus, what school are you going to for business? Time to demand a refund! |
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Post by mijapi300 on Jun 12, 2017 18:17:27 GMT -5
Other games achieve this exclusivity by offering a fixed amount of an item, and then it's off the market forever. Pixonic puts itself in a corner by first offering the item under the assumption that it's exclusive to an event and then later putting it on the market. You can't offer it for cheaper prices than it cost just a few weeks ago without pissing off those that bought the item when they thought it was limited edition. There you go again. Pixonic "put itself in a corner," did it? Please provide a link to where they ever said it was "exclusive to an event." There's nothing wrong with scaling availability over time. Jaysus, what school are you going to for business? Time to demand a refund! If I'm not mistaken(and I may be), the event said the bots were available until the end of the event. And I was mainly using it as an example using your logic of the exclusivity pricing. You can't price something as exclusive and then later tell all those people that it's actually available to everyone. Which is why they're stuck charging $50/$70/$100 for these bots unless they want to piss off everyone that got them during the event. |
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 12, 2017 23:42:47 GMT -5
That's a helluva breakdown. Thank you, and curse you for reminding me that I passed out after putting the kids to bed and missing out on buying that 33.5 mil silver deal.
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Post by Tatamat on Jun 13, 2017 2:40:36 GMT -5
Thanks Dredd77 , good reading. It has almost persuaded me to break my pedagogical approach and buy some Premium! (Not being Mijapi around to remind me that it's less fun up there so there's no need to rush from sweet spot of War Robots) To mijapi300 : I understand your point that the offers might seem offending. For me, seeing a 4-digit price tag (~40 USD) makes me wonder who might want to put that much in a game. However, the longer I'm around the more I see the diversity of War Robots players. And the diversity is two-fold: money and time. There are budget & time restricted players. Count myself for one of those, though no-pay approach is due to educational reasons. Those usually play for fun with no expectations of great War Robots career, several battles per day is an average. Looking strictly through this optics, many things in the game are slap in the face - start with offers of all kind and end up with event task chain (made it to Gekko  ). There are budget restricted & time abundant players. Sounds like you count yourself in this category. Those usually see good value in some offers (Premium, task chain) that incorporate time spent, and might feel offended by the fact that someody can buy their whole-day silver income for several tens of bucks. I remember those times - I've played Magic:the Gathering buying boosters slowly one by one and saw an interview with a pro player stating that 5000 USD was what he needed for a decent start. It felt like the other world as my yearly free budget at that time was at the level of 400 bucks... There are budget abundant & time restricted players. Guess Dredd won't be offended to be counted in here. IMO their value perception will be the direct opposite of the previous category. 100 bucks is nothing dramatic to help the hangar meet a short term objective. Those people have often the appoach "you always pay for good things" so anything instant with a price tag can be attractive. Their precious asset is TIME and they want to enjoy it, not to shred game after game to grind 30 M for one upgrade. I guess THIS is the target group of all those "most ridiculous" offers. And last, there are budget & time abundant players. Tournament players & youtubers are most visible in this group. They have War Robots either as a regular hobby (budget included) or as a job. Any offer can be good here, guess if a rare skin for 15k Au was available, it would find its customers. I remember a headline "Online player has paid 7000 USD for imaginary sword" that fits in this category. Sooo...no need to bother with offers that seem ridiculous to you. If the overall audience judges them as a junk, they'll quickly disappear. If not, the world has probably a different colour than the soil behind mine and your feet |
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Post by BLYTHE on Jun 13, 2017 3:09:32 GMT -5
Father of four (!)—jeez, Dredd, how do you do it? Well, I know how you do it, what I mean is ... oh, never mind.
Good read.
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Post by agentorange on Jun 13, 2017 6:39:29 GMT -5
Did I miss the mention of WP costing silver to produce in that tsunami of words or am I just menally blocking it out? Because all I saw was WP was free, free, free and it is not. 40k silver each production block of 85 or roughly 500 silver a point. Might seem paltry but I assure you its not. It was even mentioned that Workshop on some accounts lie dormant for this very reason.
And on to value of silver and the associated Pixo pricing the scaling of outright silver purchase is absurd. As the OP clearly illustrates they do end up selling it regardless however far and away the best investment is the 30 day premium at least.
I think what some mistake for attacking business practice is more just pointing out how Pixo is trading the once unique earning methods for the far more mainstream and ruthless offerings other IAP games use. And while the recent company sale explains why its sad to see just the same...
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Post by Russel on Jun 13, 2017 6:49:27 GMT -5
It's my conclusion that Hanlon's Razor applies here. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Although I think it was more carelessness than "stupidity," the principle applies. To prove you point I will point again to the name of Dead City map, being clearly forgotten to rename after developers finished their job (I mean underscore of course):  So I believe Pixonic are much much more sloppier\lazy than evil\greedy. |
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Post by Russel on Jun 13, 2017 10:22:33 GMT -5
I would just want to point out that we don't know the exchange rates between RM/gold/silver/WSP. What you're using is comparing worst and best available bulk discounts. For example, the Premium can be also gained by gifting gold to your clan mate and it is 12 hours for 500 gold or $4.99 (not from the US so just guessing the price here). That is most definitely much worse actual than your worst actual. But again, it may be much better than the unknown exchange rate. Just messing with you, great read :) ...and Premium can be obtained for free, by participating in Test Server :-P And also I got 200 gold recently just for filming how I play War Robots outside, so yeah, "best" is "for free" and Dredd definitely not taking that into account. Why do I need to pay if I can get it for free? (just messing around, no offense) |
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