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Post by noobcake on Jun 1, 2017 23:05:53 GMT -5
The RDB Griffin has always been my favorite. I played it pre-2.9 even though I have several Furys. Now, I dare say this bot is a trifle overpowered. I am even considering violating my 1 mid-ranger hangar policy. To include 2 RDB Griffins and a Zeus Carnage (to counter all the other RDB Griffins). Any Thoughts? | 2.8 | 2.9 | | Plasmahad | Plasmahad | | Orkan Rogatka | Taran Rogatka | | Thunder Carnage | Zeus Carnage | | PDB Griffin | RDB Griffin | | RDB Griffin | RDB Griffin |
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Post by shakingrabbit on Jun 1, 2017 23:14:36 GMT -5
Try it and see how you like it.
Like you I was a fan of the RDB setup before 2.9 but I can't see myself playing two exact builds in one hangar.
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Post by ewing411 on Jun 1, 2017 23:18:42 GMT -5
Pure speculation here but I wouldn't be surprised if the rocket changes strongly pushed Zarnages to doing a 501m-600 range game much like how plasma is currently a 301m-350m dance.
RDB were already performing above their invested levels. Doubling down looks smart on paper. If dropping your close-in for more mid-range works out please post the results.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 23:18:59 GMT -5
Try it and see how you like it. Like you I was a fan of the RDB setup before 2.9 but I can't see myself playing two exact builds in one hangar. Same thoughts here. |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 1, 2017 23:28:50 GMT -5
The RDB Griffin has always been my favorite. I played it pre-2.9 even though I have several Furys. Now, I dare say this bot is a trifle overpowered. I am even considering violating my 1 mid-ranger hangar policy. To include 2 RDB Griffins and a Zeus Carnage (to counter all the other RDB Griffins). Any Thoughts? | 2.8 | 2.9 | | Plasmahad | Plasmahad | | Orkan Rogatka | Taran Rogatka | | Thunder Carnage | Zeus Carnage | | PDB Griffin | RDB Griffin | | RDB Griffin | RDB Griffin |
At this point, the RDB is a quasi knifer. It will kill a Gareth in under 10 seconds - that's how buffed it is now. So thise 2 RDBs are good and won't hold you back in damages all that much (it will probably even out as your survivability in RDB is better than in a PDB). What I question is the Taran Rog and the Plasmahad. Both these bots are sub par now. If anything, go Orkan Rog - that can kill you a Plasmahad faster than it can kill you. The Plasmahad I'd just drop and replace it with a PDB Rhino - same speed and much more firepower. The Zeus Carny is good. |
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Post by noobcake on Jun 2, 2017 0:26:15 GMT -5
shakingrabbit I am also apprehensive about running two of the same setup and usually prefer a diverse flexible hangar. What tempts me to run two identical setups is that the RDB Griffin can fill multiple roles in my hangar. I can play it aggressively (and successfully) in the 250 to 450m range by through well timed escapes and ambushes. I also capture beacons and will even trading shots at close range when it suits me. I also know when to retreat and play the mid-range game with teammates. The 2.9 buff has strengthened this setup to where I would rather be in an RDB than either a PDB or a DB in most situations. ewing411 I started leveling up an extra set of tulumbas and pins but it looks like at least a week or two before I will have any results to share. It may not work out as well as I hope if the meta shifts before then. Increased Zeus Carnage use could suppress the effectiveness of the RDB setup. We'll have to wait and see. Sub Z Thanks for the feedback. I have been using the Orkan Rog and have been getting shredded by enemy RDBs. I was hoping the mid range splash would have folks removing their Britbots from the meta and giving the Tarans a small advantage if attached to a fast body. I'll give the Tarans a whirl but I suspect that you are right about the Orkans. I kept the Galahad in because I don't have a PDB counter yet and I expect more Zeus. I will also try the Rhino but I'm not sure if this will fare better or worse against the midrange splash.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 2, 2017 0:36:33 GMT -5
shakingrabbit I am also apprehensive about running two of the same setup and usually prefer a diverse flexible hangar. What tempts me to run two identical setups is that the RDB Griffin can fill multiple roles in my hangar. I can play it aggressively (and successfully) in the 250 to 450m range by through well timed escapes and ambushes. I also capture beacons and will even trading shots at close range when it suits me. I also know when to retreat and play the mid-range game with teammates. The 2.9 buff has strengthened this setup to where I would rather be in an RDB than either a PDB or a DB in most situations. ewing411 I started leveling up an extra set of tulumbas and pins but it looks like at least a week or two before I will have any results to share. It may not work out as well as I hope if the meta shifts before then. Increased Zeus Carnage use could suppress the effectiveness of the RDB setup. We'll have to wait and see. Sub Z Thanks for the feedback. I have been using the Orkan Rog and have been getting shredded by enemy RDBs. I was hoping the mid range splash would have folks removing their Britbots from the meta and giving the Tarans a small advantage if attached to a fast body. I'll give the Tarans a whirl but I suspect that you are right about the Orkans. I kept the Galahad in because I don't have a PDB counter yet and I expect more Zeus. I will also try the Rhino but I'm not sure if this will fare better or worse against the midrange splash. You'll find the PDB Rhino is best used as a shadow for Ancilots (not too hard to stick close or in their shadow with your superior speed) or partners with DB Griffins (they will use you as a shield against plasma reds and you will hang slightly behind them against rocket reds). Play the PDB Rhino otherwise and it had better be because you have an opportunity to get a beacon (and not get killed) or you see a lone unshield red you can intercept (and not still not overextend yourself beyond blue cover) - otherwise the Rhino gets wasted fast. |
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Post by noobcake on Jun 2, 2017 1:16:37 GMT -5
shakingrabbit I am also apprehensive about running two of the same setup and usually prefer a diverse flexible hangar. What tempts me to run two identical setups is that the RDB Griffin can fill multiple roles in my hangar. I can play it aggressively (and successfully) in the 250 to 450m range by through well timed escapes and ambushes. I also capture beacons and will even trading shots at close range when it suits me. I also know when to retreat and play the mid-range game with teammates. The 2.9 buff has strengthened this setup to where I would rather be in an RDB than either a PDB or a DB in most situations. ewing411 I started leveling up an extra set of tulumbas and pins but it looks like at least a week or two before I will have any results to share. It may not work out as well as I hope if the meta shifts before then. Increased Zeus Carnage use could suppress the effectiveness of the RDB setup. We'll have to wait and see. Sub Z Thanks for the feedback. I have been using the Orkan Rog and have been getting shredded by enemy RDBs. I was hoping the mid range splash would have folks removing their Britbots from the meta and giving the Tarans a small advantage if attached to a fast body. I'll give the Tarans a whirl but I suspect that you are right about the Orkans. I kept the Galahad in because I don't have a PDB counter yet and I expect more Zeus. I will also try the Rhino but I'm not sure if this will fare better or worse against the midrange splash. You'll find the PDB Rhino is best used as a shadow for Ancilots (not too hard to stick close or in their shadow with your superior speed) or partners with DB Griffins (they will use you as a shield against plasma reds and you will hang slightly behind them against rocket reds). Play the PDB Rhino otherwise and it had better be because you have an opportunity to get a beacon (and not get killed) or you see a lone unshield red you can intercept (and not still not overextend yourself beyond blue cover) - otherwise the Rhino gets wasted fast. I have much to learn when it comes to the Rhino. I started piloting one right around the Griffin buff and the Brit bots debut. I abandoned ship soon after and thus have no clue how to play one. |
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Post by War Child on Jun 2, 2017 1:41:12 GMT -5
2.8
Plasmahad
TriPin natasha
DB griff
Zues/Thunder carnage(not mixed,I alternate depending on mood)
Aphid jesse
2.9
Magcile leo
RDB griff
DB griff
Zues carnage
Aphid jesse
I think mine is bigger
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Post by Heishiro on Jun 2, 2017 4:48:20 GMT -5
old setup :
2 plasma gala (or tarancilot)
2 stuka griffin
1 Db griffin
now changing my hangar to :
2 stuka griffin
2 Db griffin
1 Rdb griffin
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Post by sharpmango on Jun 2, 2017 6:12:45 GMT -5
I have loved my RDB since before 2.9 days. The only 'problem' now is, there are so many other RDBS! Nothing worse than coming against another RDB. You are both either going to die or destroy each other's health to a negligible level anyway. It depends on your hangar really. But personally, I'd upgrade 1 RDB instead of creating 2.
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Post by Uhnonimis on Jun 2, 2017 6:22:03 GMT -5
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Post by magnum on Jun 2, 2017 6:37:12 GMT -5
My original account is about 4 months old. It has 5 slots. All Gold and Work Shop bots. All bots are level 7 or 8, weapons are 8 or 9......And I've topped out at Silver 1. I started a new account a couple days ago. I now have 4 base level RDB Griffins....And I'm currently at Silver 2.  |
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Post by 7iquid on Jun 2, 2017 6:48:11 GMT -5
Zarnage is a great bot - not just because of the range but because you can get hits on RDB Griffs as they are mid jump. A great asset to counter what is likely to be a massive increase in Griffs on the battlefields.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jun 2, 2017 7:07:46 GMT -5
Since the update my trident carnage has never had so much of a workout. Many of the RDB griffins ignore you, firstly because you have Ancilot and secondly because you aren't a fury and there are more vulnerable targets to clock up quick damage. I can often score 300k damage with my 9/9 Trarnage alone; granted it takes me a few minutes to do it, but it REALLY helps out the team if you're finishing off bots after a rocket salvo. I'm sure your Zarnage is just as effective: no splash damage, but higher damage per minute.
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Post by crave1ne on Jun 2, 2017 7:28:46 GMT -5
The RDB Griffin has always been my favorite. I played it pre-2.9 even though I have several Furys. Now, I dare say this bot is a trifle overpowered. I am even considering violating my 1 mid-ranger hangar policy. To include 2 RDB Griffins and a Zeus Carnage (to counter all the other RDB Griffins). Any Thoughts? | 2.8 | 2.9 | | Plasmahad | Plasmahad | | Orkan Rogatka | Taran Rogatka | | Thunder Carnage | Zeus Carnage | | PDB Griffin | RDB Griffin | | RDB Griffin | RDB Griffin |
I'v been messing with my hangar since the update as well. I've actually debated on running my Trident carn, and my zues carn. Like you I was using the rog. Its a super fun set up. You have to be a REALLY good pilot to last long and use it. You mentioned running two of the same set ups in a hangar. I have ran two of the same set ups just fine in my hangar. started with two thunder ork lance's, then moved to two aphid ork griffins. I say run two of the same if you are having fun with the set ups, and can pilot them well. Might I make a suggestion if your having second thoughts about running two RDBs. I am running a aphid tulumbas griffin, Its the best of both worlds with RDB set ups. You have to be alittle sneakier, but it sounds like you know exactly how to do just that. Also, another build for the rog. I've used orks and tarans for my rog. I've switched back and forth with each of those builds and usually came back to orks 80% of the time. And as mentioned, its a great galahad and gareth killer. One build that I started trying out, and seem to last WAY longer in is the tulumbas rog. Its perfect against RDB's, Galahads, and gareths. The added range REALLY does help. I have lvl 10 tulumbas that I was using. My lvl 10 orks seem to do damage faster, but i think thats due to more rockets on the ork than tulumbas. Give it a try though, I bet once you do you'll enjoy it since you enjoy the RDB set up. Anyway, I'm bookmarking this thread just to see how it all works out for you. Happy hunting |
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Post by crave1ne on Jun 2, 2017 7:32:50 GMT -5
Since the update my trident carnage has never had so much of a workout. Many of the RDB griffins ignore you, firstly because you have Ancilot and secondly because you aren't a fury and there are more vulnerable targets to clock up quick damage. I can often score 300k damage with my 9/9 Trarnage alone; granted it takes me a few minutes to do it, but it REALLY helps out the team if you're finishing off bots after a rocket salvo. I'm sure your Zarnage is just as effective: no splash damage, but higher damage per minute. I've replaced my rog with my tri carn. Just to test it out on canyon, I camped in it the whole game. I did grab two beacons, but I mainly stayed in the 500-600m range. I did over 500k with just the trident carn alone. We won the game, the random team I was placed with really did a good job with roles. I played another on yama, the worse map imo. I did 544k with just the trident carn alone. RDB's seem to have this idea that they are invincible, the carn is the perfect midrange imo. The mobility and ancile is great against all the RDB's. |
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jun 2, 2017 8:57:35 GMT -5
Since the update my trident carnage has never had so much of a workout. Many of the RDB griffins ignore you, firstly because you have Ancilot and secondly because you aren't a fury and there are more vulnerable targets to clock up quick damage. I can often score 300k damage with my 9/9 Trarnage alone; granted it takes me a few minutes to do it, but it REALLY helps out the team if you're finishing off bots after a rocket salvo. I'm sure your Zarnage is just as effective: no splash damage, but higher damage per minute. I've replaced my rog with my tri carn. Just to test it out on canyon, I camped in it the whole game. I did grab two beacons, but I mainly stayed in the 500-600m range. I did over 500k with just the trident carn alone. We won the game, the random team I was placed with really did a good job with roles. I played another on yama, the worse map imo. I did 544k with just the trident carn alone. RDB's seem to have this idea that they are invincible, the carn is the perfect midrange imo. The mobility and ancile is great against all the RDB's. Seems like it's not just me then and the tri carn is the perfect answer to all the RDBs after the update. Just don't go telling too many people haha ;-) |
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Post by crave1ne on Jun 2, 2017 9:53:01 GMT -5
I've replaced my rog with my tri carn. Just to test it out on canyon, I camped in it the whole game. I did grab two beacons, but I mainly stayed in the 500-600m range. I did over 500k with just the trident carn alone. We won the game, the random team I was placed with really did a good job with roles. I played another on yama, the worse map imo. I did 544k with just the trident carn alone. RDB's seem to have this idea that they are invincible, the carn is the perfect midrange imo. The mobility and ancile is great against all the RDB's. Seems like it's not just me then and the tri carn is the perfect answer to all the RDBs after the update. Just don't go telling too many people haha ;-) LOL! honestly, I'd encourage you to either get your tri's to a 10, or some zues' to a 10 |
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Post by moody on Jun 2, 2017 17:48:11 GMT -5
I currently have 4 tullumbas in the 8-9 range. Originally upgraded in order to arm my doc (which is still under leveled)
As such I have been running 1 RDB and one of several other builds:
Aphid Tulumbas griff (pretty decent)
Aphid Tulumbas gal (not particularly anything)
Tulumbas ancille Lancelot - this one constantly surprises me. Yes I miss the orks sometimes but it can do midrange without fear of being instantly wiped out and it can take beacons and knife when necessary.
If I had a Rog I would try out Tulumbas rog
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 2, 2017 18:00:53 GMT -5
I currently have 4 tullumbas in the 8-9 range. Originally upgraded in order to arm my doc (which is still under leveled) As such I have been running 1 RDB and one of several other builds: Aphid Tulumbas griff (pretty decent) Aphid Tulumbas gal (not particularly anything) Tulumbas ancille Lancelot - this one constantly surprises me. Yes I miss the orks sometimes but it can do midrange without fear of being instantly wiped out and it can take beacons and knife when necessary. If I had a Rog I would try out Tulumbas rog How about the RDB Rhino? The Rhino can go toe-to-toe with an RDB Griff, but will fair better than the RDB Griff when fighting red Plasmahads, Plasma Gareths, Thunder Carnages, Zeus Carnages, or Thunder/Taran Lancelots. You can also more easily keep up with blue Lancelots. The RDB Rhino is also much easier to use than the DB Rhino, as it's an MRS bot that isn't absolutely required to get into knifer ranges. |
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Post by moody on Jun 2, 2017 18:18:35 GMT -5
I currently have 4 tullumbas in the 8-9 range. Originally upgraded in order to arm my doc (which is still under leveled) As such I have been running 1 RDB and one of several other builds: Aphid Tulumbas griff (pretty decent) Aphid Tulumbas gal (not particularly anything) Tulumbas ancille Lancelot - this one constantly surprises me. Yes I miss the orks sometimes but it can do midrange without fear of being instantly wiped out and it can take beacons and knife when necessary. If I had a Rog I would try out Tulumbas rog How about the RDB Rhino? The Rhino can go toe-to-toe with an RDB Griff, but will fair better than the RDB Griff when fighting red Plasmahads, Plasma Gareths, Thunder Carnages, Zeus Carnages, or Thunder/Taran Lancelots. You can also more easily keep up with blue Lancelots. The RDB Rhino is also much easier to use than the DB Rhino, as it's an MRS bot that isn't absolutely required to get into knifer ranges. I may try it but it would leave me without a normal RDB. (Only have two levelled pins). |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 2, 2017 18:30:44 GMT -5
How about the RDB Rhino? The Rhino can go toe-to-toe with an RDB Griff, but will fair better than the RDB Griff when fighting red Plasmahads, Plasma Gareths, Thunder Carnages, Zeus Carnages, or Thunder/Taran Lancelots. You can also more easily keep up with blue Lancelots. The RDB Rhino is also much easier to use than the DB Rhino, as it's an MRS bot that isn't absolutely required to get into knifer ranges. I may try it but it would leave me without a normal RDB. (Only have two levelled pins). 2 Punishers? Or, 2 Gekkos? Gekkos hit like mid-range weapons now and they are on par with damage from a PIN or Punishers at 400+ meter range. Light Punishers are decent against fat targets like Griffs and Leos. The light Punishers also bring down an Ancile at 400-500m so that your Tulus can get damage in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 18:31:06 GMT -5
2.8
Plasma Gary
DB Griffin
PDB Griffin
RDB Griffin
Ancile Punisher Leo
2.9
Pinata patton (until second PDB)
2x Tulu Doc
DB Griffin
PDB Griffin
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Post by amoebastudios on Jun 2, 2017 18:33:31 GMT -5
I have loved my RDB since before 2.9 days. The only 'problem' now is, there are so many other RDBS! Nothing worse than coming against another RDB. You are both either going to die or destroy each other's health to a negligible level anyway. It depends on your hangar really. But personally, I'd upgrade 1 RDB instead of creating 2. 2.9: 3x RDB Grif 2x DB Grif. Seriously I'm gonna build it, it's the OP meta. I'm tired of pointing out the problem so I'm just going to build into the broken implementation. My DB Griffs have no problem tearing through ancile shields anyways. |
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Post by moody on Jun 2, 2017 18:53:24 GMT -5
I may try it but it would leave me without a normal RDB. (Only have two levelled pins). 2 Punishers? Or, 2 Gekkos? Gekkos hit like mid-range weapons now and they are on par with damage from a PIN or Punishers at 400+ meter range. Light Punishers are decent against fat targets like Griffs and Leos. The light Punishers also bring down an Ancile at 400-500m so that your Tulus can get damage in. Will try both. Currently approaching 9/10. I have gekko 6/7 and punishers 8/9. Both better than pins at 5. |
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