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Post by tolrusco on May 30, 2017 12:12:25 GMT -5
I have started playing a Golem with an Ancile, Ecu and Orkan. I haven't seen anybody else with this build, and haven't heard anybody talk about it before. I have been having a lot of fun with it. I have been able to use cover really efficiently, I've held my ground hold beacons in wide open spaces, and have gotten in close, supporting knife fights. I like the Orkan over the Tulu for this build primarily because of how it reloads, allowing me to take advantage of every opportunity to fire and I almost never regret turning my Ecu towards the DBGs and just safely making my way to cover while the orkan reloads. I would love to hear people's thoughts on this setup, and if there is anybody out there with experience with it.
P.S. The most similar thing out there that I am aware of is an ancilot, which I have played and I honestly like my Golem build better.
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Post by Shahmatt on May 30, 2017 12:40:46 GMT -5
I use the Ancile Plasma Golem and I think it works great as a support bot. I tried replacing the Magnum with the Ecu and, while it definitely lasts longer, I feel with careful play it doesn't need one.I guess like me you depend on cover, corner shooting and sticking behind a shield bot. One weapon is alright for this purpose. But sometimes I see a helpless rocket build like a Griffin or Fury and I am glad I have the firepower to take it down.
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Post by tolrusco on May 30, 2017 13:38:02 GMT -5
Have you tried the Ecu with an Orkan? For a plasma build what you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. For my rig the Ecu enables beacon capping when Galahads and Gareths are in range. It also functions as portable cover while reloading the Orkan, allowing you to turn and shoot while they reload
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 30, 2017 13:48:06 GMT -5
Have you tried the Ecu with an Orkan? For a plasma build what you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. For my rig the Ecu enables beacon capping when Galahads and Gareths are in range. It also functions as portable cover while reloading the Orkan, allowing you to turn and shoot while they reload Just curious... What OS? What league? What weapon levels? Bot levels? |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 13:57:54 GMT -5
I have started playing a Golem with an Ancile, Ecu and Orkan. I haven't seen anybody else with this build, and haven't heard anybody talk about it before. I have been having a lot of fun with it. I have been able to use cover really efficiently, I've held my ground hold beacons in wide open spaces, and have gotten in close, supporting knife fights. I like the Orkan over the Tulu for this build primarily because of how it reloads, allowing me to take advantage of every opportunity to fire and I almost never regret turning my Ecu towards the DBGs and just safely making my way to cover while the orkan reloads. I would love to hear people's thoughts on this setup, and if there is anybody out there with experience with it. P.S. The most similar thing out there that I am aware of is an ancilot, which I have played and I honestly like my Golem build better. There's multiple similar builds with an Ancile. There's the Ancilò, which was one of the first ones I discovered. Great corner shooter and defender. Ancibo which is good as a support bot, and keep your teammate alive and use its speed to follow him and keep up. Ancibo is pretty close to your Ancigo (Ancile + Golem - lem). The Ancigo might be able to go it alone, and it has enough firepower to do that. But the Ancibo, I just didn't like him as a one-man-army type of robot as it stays alive too long for not enough damage. Until I used him as support, and then it has a clear role that not many other bots can do (like the Leo or Lancelot). It's like giving your teammate 9 lives, and my team doesn't mech out as much and the overall damage skyrockets. So yes, you do get pretty good damage out of it, but it's like saying an assist gives you a bucket in basketball so you have to be ok with being the point guard role. |
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Post by make7upyours on May 30, 2017 15:50:12 GMT -5
shouldn't tulu reload now?
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Post by Shahmatt on May 30, 2017 16:13:40 GMT -5
Have you tried the Ecu with an Orkan? For a plasma build what you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. For my rig the Ecu enables beacon capping when Galahads and Gareths are in range. It also functions as portable cover while reloading the Orkan, allowing you to turn and shoot while they reload I have not tried the Ecu with Orkan. I would normally imagine Orkans to work best with faster bots like the Rog. I may give it a try though. In my Golem playstyle I am mostly relying on map cover. So good reach becomes essential. That extra 50m difference betweeb Taran and Orkan is helpful. Whatever your poison, now with the rocket buff, any Ancile build gives real value to a Golem and makes it a game changer if played right. |
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Post by sharpmango on May 30, 2017 16:42:27 GMT -5
I'm always for novel builds. Keeps it fun. Are you upgrading your ancile/ecu as you go along or are you using this build as a pathway to build up your Orkan to Level 10+?
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Post by tolrusco on May 30, 2017 20:22:22 GMT -5
I'm using iOS
Lvl 10 Golem
9 Ecu
7 Ancile
5 Orkan
Gold League
I plan on using this build as long as it stays effective and fun, I decided to start using Orkan in part because of the sheer volume of Gareths and Galahads I've been seeing lately. I've got a lot of things to be upgrading, but I have been impressed by the baseline damage output. I plan on giving it some upgrade time soon.
Edit: I imagine as I progress I will be wanting better shielding. I am a little scatterbrained with my upgrading but the whole rig is on the table for upgrades.
P.S. The Ancilot I used to play is a lvl 8, waffles between tarans and orkans, with a brief but funny Molot stint. Ancilot doing suppressing fire was hardly optimal but was fun for a bit. I tended to survive way too long doing subpar damage
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Post by zed252000 on May 31, 2017 3:33:02 GMT -5
saw this build in another tread. (http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/666/strange-bots-wild?page=11). it looks fun. makes me think of thunder carnage and ecu concept(if possible). An Ancile Orkan Boa comes to mind also. Small, Nimble, high HP. Fun times.
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Post by smanker on May 31, 2017 13:20:58 GMT -5
I've got a lv 9 ancile and I've had zero success implementing it. Saving up for a lance because those assbags frequently kill me while surrounded by a protective glow. As far as slapping it on a golem, only if you're in a tanking phase.
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Post by tolrusco on May 31, 2017 14:47:59 GMT -5
I don't tank in the derogatory sense that is talked about here. I do however tank damage in the traditional sense of soaking up ridiculous amounts of damage so that your squishier teammates with more firepower last longer ultimately doing more damage than if I strapped a thunder and a piñata on instead of Ancile and Ecu. I also manage to cap and hold beacons, contribute damage in knife fights, distract red bots and do my best to help my team win. I feel that I support my team well with this setup, just advanced to Gold 2 with this bad boy being the first bot I use almost every game. I don't get much Au for it unless I cap like crazy, which I am sometimes able to pull off but I'm in this for the fun and to win.
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Post by smanker on May 31, 2017 14:52:44 GMT -5
Please don't get me wrong, it can be fun and is certainly more useful than an ancile Shutz. It's always nice not to worry about the metal falling from the sky.
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Post by tolrusco on Jun 1, 2017 14:05:35 GMT -5
Just got the rocket update, I am liking Tulus a lot better now, and it fixes my main problem with them for this build, I'll chime in again later once I've toyed around with it more
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Post by Poopface on Jun 1, 2017 14:15:35 GMT -5
I have started playing a Golem with an Ancile, Ecu and Orkan. I haven't seen anybody else with this build, and haven't heard anybody talk about it before. I've considered doing that, but was concerned about the lack of firepower. To that end, I've been kicking around doing something similar with a Natasha. Ancile/Trident on the heavy slots and either dual-Tulu's or Tulu/Ecu on the light hardpoints. |
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Post by Shahmatt on Jun 1, 2017 16:42:54 GMT -5
I have started playing a Golem with an Ancile, Ecu and Orkan. I haven't seen anybody else with this build, and haven't heard anybody talk about it before. I've considered doing that, but was concerned about the lack of firepower. To that end, I've been kicking around doing something similar with a Natasha. Ancile/Trident on the heavy slots and either dual-Tulu's or Tulu/Ecu on the light hardpoints. Pins you mean. Not Tulumbas. Ancile Trident Pin Natasha is an interesting build. |
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Post by Poopface on Jun 1, 2017 18:48:13 GMT -5
You're right. Oops. Brain fart.
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Post by tolrusco on Jun 2, 2017 8:53:36 GMT -5
Ive been pleased with the damage output of the Orkan, but it does require strategic maneuvering at times. Britbot pilots tend to be fairly predictable, so this tends to be a relatively simple task, they do however seem to be falling out of fashion a bit right now. This update has stirred up the gameplay quite a bit, I've got no personal concensus yet as to this builds viability anymore. The new Tulus have been working great for timing and stuff, but I am definitely underwhelmed by the damage. Red Orkans have also been stripping my Ancile pretty easily. Big buff for Orkans
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Post by Clorox Bleach on Jun 2, 2017 9:05:30 GMT -5
I forgot what I'm going to say.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Jun 2, 2017 10:24:30 GMT -5
I tried the Ancile Ecu Orkan Golem build a few times and wasn't very good at it. I got to do the gimmick of the build, turning Ecu towards plasma when it appears and retreat to cover, and it worked, but walking sideways like that is so difficult.
Using longer range Tulumbas though seems to contradict the play style if you want to share the Ancile. I mean if you try to stay 500m away to take advantage of the Tulumba range then fellow blues will be spread out, difficult to cover. Orkan has maximum damage for helping the frontline clumps.
This 2.9 update fixes the Aphid bug so I've been finally getting to try the Ancile Aphid Leo build and it's fantastic. At times. Like any build I guess. In Yama I stood downramp, launching Aphids over and trying to shepherd the Griffins and Rhinos and Galahads walking to center with my Ancile. Wave upon wave of heavies I helped into center for the whole first half of battle. I wonder how an Ancile Hydra Aphid Golem would fare?
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Post by Ron Gaul on Jun 2, 2017 13:53:28 GMT -5
I tried the Ancile Ecu Orkan Golem build a few times and wasn't very good at it. I got to do the gimmick of the build, turning Ecu towards plasma when it appears and retreat to cover, and it worked, but walking sideways like that is so difficult. Using longer range Tulumbas though seems to contradict the play style if you want to share the Ancile. I mean if you try to stay 500m away to take advantage of the Tulumba range then fellow blues will be spread out, difficult to cover. Orkan has maximum damage for helping the frontline clumps. This 2.9 update fixes the Aphid bug so I've been finally getting to try the Ancile Aphid Leo build and it's fantastic. At times. Like any build I guess. In Yama I stood downramp, launching Aphids over and trying to shepherd the Griffins and Rhinos and Galahads walking to center with my Ancile. Wave upon wave of heavies I helped into center for the whole first half of battle. I wonder how an Ancile Hydra Aphid Golem would fare? Nope. Aphid is a whole different animal than Hydra. All weapons work best when paired, and with that setup you'd have one Hydra and one Aphid. Neither compliments the other, leaving both underpowered. The ONLY edge you'd gain would be in speed, but with that firepower, you'd be better off in an Ancile Hydra Boa because of the extra HP. |
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Post by Poopface on Jun 2, 2017 13:54:53 GMT -5
Using longer range Tulumbas though seems to contradict the play style if you want to share the Ancile. I mean if you try to stay 500m away to take advantage of the Tulumba range then fellow blues will be spread out, difficult to cover. Orkan has maximum damage for helping the frontline clumps. It all depends on who you really want to help. If you're focused on helping the frontline, I agree, but with the trend toward the RDB, Zeus-focused, and Trident-focused builds I think there's an undeniable increase in mid-range builds. Natasha with Trident/pins and an Ancile, Leo with Pins and Ancile, or a Golem with Pin/Natasha and Ancile all would help cover those mid-range folks. |
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Post by tolrusco on Jun 2, 2017 20:16:46 GMT -5
I tried the Ancile Ecu Orkan Golem build a few times and wasn't very good at it. I got to do the gimmick of the build, turning Ecu towards plasma when it appears and retreat to cover, and it worked, but walking sideways like that is so difficult. Using longer range Tulumbas though seems to contradict the play style if you want to share the Ancile. I mean if you try to stay 500m away to take advantage of the Tulumba range then fellow blues will be spread out, difficult to cover. Orkan has maximum damage for helping the frontline clumps. This 2.9 update fixes the Aphid bug so I've been finally getting to try the Ancile Aphid Leo build and it's fantastic. At times. Like any build I guess. In Yama I stood downramp, launching Aphids over and trying to shepherd the Griffins and Rhinos and Galahads walking to center with my Ancile. Wave upon wave of heavies I helped into center for the whole first half of battle. I wonder how an Ancile Hydra Aphid Golem would fare? I definitely walk sideways into walls at times but as I play it more I find myself learning details about the maps that never mattered to me before. |
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Post by Shahmatt on Jun 2, 2017 22:41:10 GMT -5
I wonder how an Ancile Hydra Aphid Golem would fare? No good. I tried a Hydra Spiral Trident Golem and sadly the homing rockets were just too difficult to use. Firstly Hydras are best in groups of 2s or 3s, to really make them cause good damage. Secondly the entire bot needs to be positioned in a way to launch them accurately. When launching Hydras you won't be wanting to launch Aphids, and vice versa. Thirdly it takes too long to lock on. So best to have them in 3s at least, as in point 1, to make the launch worthwhile. |
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