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Post by Deadalready on Dec 14, 2016 3:31:57 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks the Fox Boa skin looks trash? It's just so half baked, the fox design is cool but then the rest of it is a few racing stripes and that's it.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 3:58:43 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks the Fox Boa skin looks trash? It's just so half baked, the fox design is cool but then the rest of it is a few racing stripes and that's it. i don't think anyone actually likes the boa skin. The skins that I have been pretty dissapointed in so far are raven for Griffin (needs a bit more detail for a 2500 gold skin..), raptor (same problem as the raven) and the boa skin. |
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 14, 2016 4:25:42 GMT -5
Rhino pajamas skin as well...
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 4:28:46 GMT -5
Rhino pajamas skin as well... which one is that?  personally I like the one without the face on it. |
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 14, 2016 4:43:17 GMT -5
CΛΜΡΞΓ™ yeah pajamas (as per stew pendous lol) is the one with face on it - the avalanche!
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Post by osang on Dec 14, 2016 7:09:28 GMT -5
I heard the Zenit was buffed? Anyone know of that?  !!!! Ugh... if so... there will be more of them. Sigh. If confirmed, my 3x Zenit Fury will light the night sky. |
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Post by CtrlZ on Dec 14, 2016 8:13:57 GMT -5
I really wish skins could be custom. It's just a texture file - not that difficult to upload and distribute to the other 11 players in the game. Of course somebody would come along and paint giant ?dingleberries? on their bots and ruin it  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 14, 2016 11:38:43 GMT -5
Lvl 8 Punisher was 139... now is 243. Lvl 8 Punisher-T was 190... now is 243. Lvl 8 Molot was 265... now is 315. Lvl 8 Molot-T was 200... now is 315. They boosted everything and then brought the damage per bullet up for the Mediums to match the damage per bullet of the Lights. Remember... mediums have twice the RoF as Lights. Taking your Lvl 8 Punisher as example, 243/139 = 1.75. Meaning a 75% buff - which is clearly not possible. There must be some problems with it, so don't invest like crazy. Well... I loaded up a galahad with lvl 7 and 8 lights and an 8 medium punisher and it shredded stuff up close... 3 bots died pretty quick... But... I had to be pretty dang close. Even 300m wasn't close enough to watch the bar get smaller with any speed. But it was pretty effective,considering i was in low gold. |
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Post by Neg0Pander on Dec 14, 2016 12:09:52 GMT -5
^^ I'm not sure how I feel about it. Most apps give a detailed report on changes per version, I think. On the other hand, it's kinda cool learning new little things as people discover them and watching the meta figure it out.
On second thought I think I like the mystery aspect best.
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Post by asie on Dec 14, 2016 12:24:23 GMT -5
Minor lag issues...kinda used to seeing these post update and they ussually sort themselves out fairly quick. I haven't had a hangar crash in a long time, so Pix has been improving the game bugs over time. I'm not really on-board with the whining. I adore people who think only because the game works fine for them it's cool for everybody. Now, for a number of players the gameplay became horrible after the kast update, and they always lose as a result of the 3-4-5 sec delay. Moreover, some of them cannot even log in (!!), because the game does not start. You must have some empathy to understand other peoples' problem, and not to be a jerk who think only because the game can be used on his phone everything is fine. In fact, as we came to know (and I write this to the others who have the same problem), the major problem is with Asus tablets and intel chipsets - the new update does not work properly on them. My games reguarly crash, and sometimes the lag is so long it destroys the gameplay. I hit a button and it takes 5 secs until reaction. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 13:50:35 GMT -5
I adore people who think only because the game works fine for them it's cool for everybody. Now, for a number of players the gameplay became horrible after the kast update, and they always lose as a result of the 3-4-5 sec delay. Moreover, some of them cannot even log in (!!), because the game does not start. You must have some empathy to understand other peoples' problem, and not to be a jerk who think only because the game can be used on his phone everything is fine. In fact, as we came to know (and I write this to the others who have the same problem), the major problem is with Asus tablets and intel chipsets - the new update does not work properly on them. My games reguarly crash, and sometimes the lag is so long it destroys the gameplay. I hit a button and it takes 5 secs until reaction. go to the facebook page and this is literally all people do. They defend pixonic, even when someone brings up the possibility of the switch bots being exclusive to the Christmas event, and only possible to get with snowflakes, they say 'they have to make money somehow', lol! When they bring up stuff about major game crashes, or the targeting bug we had not too long ago 'stop complaining', I seriously do not understand the mindset of these people. Maybe they enjoy playing a sub-par game, probably doesn't even effect their gameplay... |
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 14, 2016 13:59:25 GMT -5
Minor lag issues...kinda used to seeing these post update and they ussually sort themselves out fairly quick. I haven't had a hangar crash in a long time, so Pix has been improving the game bugs over time. I'm not really on-board with the whining. I adore people who think only because the game works fine for them it's cool for everybody. Now, for a number of players the gameplay became horrible after the kast update, and they always lose as a result of the 3-4-5 sec delay. Moreover, some of them cannot even log in (!!), because the game does not start. You must have some empathy to understand other peoples' problem, and not to be a jerk who think only because the game can be used on his phone everything is fine. In fact, as we came to know (and I write this to the others who have the same problem), the major problem is with Asus tablets and intel chipsets - the new update does not work properly on them. My games reguarly crash, and sometimes the lag is so long it destroys the gameplay. I hit a button and it takes 5 secs until reaction. And yet here you are using belittling language (adore) and calling me a jerk. Way to take the high road. Speaking of the targeting bug, it was fixed. Most of my issues with the game have been fixed over time, an experience I have not seen with other mobile games. For a free game, Pix has been responsive, if a little slow. FYI I complained both to Pixonic and on the forums about the targeting bug, the hangar crashes and the Zeus glitch. I'm not saying don't complain, I'm saying Pix has a good record of fixing these type of issues fairly quick. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 14:45:51 GMT -5
I can't play the game unless I want to sit through a stuttering, rubberbanding, slo-mo experience and hope my allies can compensate for me shooting up the landscape and chasing hallucinations. That's not a legitimate reason to raise concerns?
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 14, 2016 15:12:15 GMT -5
I can't play the game unless I want to sit through a stuttering, rubberbanding, slo-mo experience and hope my allies can compensate for me shooting up the landscape and chasing hallucinations. That's not a legitimate reason to raise concerns? Sure, but I think it will get fixed sooner than you think. Report it if you haven't already. P.S. complain yes. Insult me? Hell no. Period. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Dec 14, 2016 16:03:43 GMT -5
a·dore
verb - love and respect (someone) deeply.
If you are experiencing game destroying issues, use the bug reporting feature. The more reports that Pixonic gets, the more information they will have to help them fix the issues that much sooner.
Complaining can be useful, for example to find out if other people are having similar issues. This could lead to finding a common cause and it's eventual fixes. This is how crowd-sourcing works at it's best.
Anybody foolish enough to take the free-for-all of human ADHD brain patterning that comes from most Facebook comment threads as something serious deserves to labeled as something extra-special in the Facebook community. Last time I suggested such a thing to Facebook I was politely told that buttons containing vulgarities would never be allowed into their interface.
So, as in most things in this universe, it's finding a balance that's needed. Complaining is fine, especially in commiseration. Whining, which refers more towards constantly and repeatedly complaining about the same issue without offering any solutions, doesn't really help anything, much less help the complainant feel any better about the situation.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 14, 2016 20:49:39 GMT -5
Taking your Lvl 8 Punisher as example, 243/139 = 1.75. Meaning a 75% buff - which is clearly not possible. There must be some problems with it, so don't invest like crazy. Well... I loaded up a galahad with lvl 7 and 8 lights and an 8 medium punisher and it shredded stuff up close... 3 bots died pretty quick... But... I had to be pretty dang close. Even 300m wasn't close enough to watch the bar get smaller with any speed. But it was pretty effective,considering i was in low gold. Not sure. However if the Punisher did experience a buff of 75%, quad-Punisher (like yours) will have roughly 90% burst output of twin-Thunder, assuming full-hit from both setups. So did you really feel like running a twin-Thunder? |
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Dec 15, 2016 9:14:22 GMT -5
Well... I loaded up a galahad with lvl 7 and 8 lights and an 8 medium punisher and it shredded stuff up close... 3 bots died pretty quick... But... I had to be pretty dang close. Even 300m wasn't close enough to watch the bar get smaller with any speed. But it was pretty effective,considering i was in low gold. Not sure. However if the Punisher did experience a buff of 75%, quad-Punisher (like yours) will have roughly 90% burst output of twin-Thunder, assuming full-hit from both setups. So did you really feel like running a twin-Thunder? I think most use thunders because no other cqc heavy wep is availible though, so not good enough imo? Though if it was on par with plasma and rockets then it'd dominate the low tiers. I also experienced the lag. I thought it was my cellular data, but the dcs are 80% by game and 20% due to no signal, lol. Personally, i only like the vector skin so far. It was the only skin(afaik) that doesn't go the animal/medieval path but a technological theme. And i love it. Would buy if i had a rhino and too much gold. |
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Post by lephturn on Dec 15, 2016 9:42:56 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm good with a buff to firearms. I like them, I use them and I wanted them to be better. But this balance between the light and medium versions isn't right - in the big picture, medium weapons can't be twice as effective as a light weapons without some other substantial adjustments to how the various bots are balanced. Totally agreed - I'm happy they are buffing slug throwers but the T versions need some drawback. The most logical tradeoff for me would be firing time and/or reload - so make the medium versions with twin barrels run out of ammo faster and take a bit longer to reload. That would make them better for burst damage but 2 light weapons would have higher sustained DPM. Make sense? |
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Dec 15, 2016 10:12:39 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm good with a buff to firearms. I like them, I use them and I wanted them to be better. But this balance between the light and medium versions isn't right - in the big picture, medium weapons can't be twice as effective as a light weapons without some other substantial adjustments to how the various bots are balanced. Totally agreed - I'm happy they are buffing slug throwers but the T versions need some drawback. The most logical tradeoff for me would be firing time and/or reload - so make the medium versions with twin barrels run out of ammo faster and take a bit longer to reload. That would make them better for burst damage but 2 light weapons would have higher sustained DPM. Make sense? That'd actually make the medium even better than the light. You can get into cover faster, and kill faster. |
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Post by lephturn on Dec 15, 2016 10:29:52 GMT -5
Yeah but it's already better if I'm reading this right. The medium weapon seems to just literally be 2x the light weapon but without any drawbacks. I'm not saying you should increase the damage the new medium versions are doing - they appear to be 2x the lights now. I'm suggesting you at least build in a shorter time before reload and/or a longer reload time for the medium versions to balance that.
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Dec 15, 2016 10:37:40 GMT -5
Yeah but it's already better if I'm reading this right. The medium weapon seems to just literally be 2x the light weapon but without any drawbacks. I'm not saying you should increase the damage the new medium versions are doing - they appear to be 2x the lights now. I'm suggesting you at least build in a shorter time before reload and/or a longer reload time for the medium versions to balance that. The way i got your words in your original post was "increase T weapons RoF(thus increasing dps) and increase reload time" which strategically is better than constant dpm. And in this post i get the "lower clip size or increase reload time" impression. Either way i think they're fine right now. Plasma is still mostly better anyway. Something for the ones before level 20. |
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Post by lephturn on Dec 15, 2016 10:49:00 GMT -5
Yeah but it's already better if I'm reading this right. The medium weapon seems to just literally be 2x the light weapon but without any drawbacks. I'm not saying you should increase the damage the new medium versions are doing - they appear to be 2x the lights now. I'm suggesting you at least build in a shorter time before reload and/or a longer reload time for the medium versions to balance that. The way i got your words in your original post was "increase T weapons RoF(thus increasing dps) and increase reload time" which strategically is better than constant dpm. And in this post i get the "lower clip size or increase reload time" impression. Either way i think they're fine right now. Plasma is still mostly better anyway. Something for the ones before level 20. By "right now" do you mean in whatever the current iOS version is, or with the buffs to slug throwers in 2.4? Based on the rest of this thread, it looks like they have significantly buffed the Punisher and Molot, and also made the medium versions exactly 2x the light version instead of the 1.5x it is right now on iOS. |
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Dec 15, 2016 11:03:44 GMT -5
Buffed. It'd make little sense if i was talking about the unbuffed while the rest of the thread is talking about the buffed guns ;P
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Dec 15, 2016 11:09:17 GMT -5
Do you guys think Thunder with Punisher is now a good combo for ~200m range combat?
Just have to figure how to get to 200m with it being blown up by everything..
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 15, 2016 11:14:29 GMT -5
Do you guys think Thunder with Punisher is now a good combo for ~200m range combat? Just have to figure how to get to 200m with it being blown up by everything.. Are you bronze tier and less than lvl 20? Then yes. Otherwise go magnum |
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Dec 15, 2016 11:17:18 GMT -5
Lol.. I have always been using Magnum, ditch Punishers a long time ago. I'm in silver.
It's just that the numbers look SO good on paper that I wonder if Punisher will be come viable again. @@
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Dec 15, 2016 11:45:50 GMT -5
Let's find out, because I have a Golem that has been carrying around a Gau-T just in case the bullet hoses got a buff. I'm now field testing a Golem 9 w/ Pinata 9/Gau-T 9/Zeus 8, in a hanger that includes other medium 10/10 bots.
I know, I know, got a range mismatch, best I can do with spare guns.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Dec 15, 2016 17:26:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna try out a Molot/Trident Golem this weekend and I'll report back.
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 15, 2016 22:39:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna try out a Molot/Trident Golem this weekend and I'll report back. I'd be quite interested in this, the Tulu on my Golem almost more annoying than useful. |
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Post by Neg0Pander on Dec 16, 2016 11:50:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna try out a Molot/Trident Golem this weekend and I'll report back. I'd be quite interested in this, the Tulu on my Golem almost more annoying than useful. Really? I get plenty of kills with the Tulu. |
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personally I like the one without the face on it.
!!!! Ugh... if so... there will be more of them. Sigh.
