Do we need more viability? (2)

I think that there should be no difference at max level. All heavy bots same HP all medium bots same HP all light bots same HP at max level.
Similar for weapons Same DPS at max level. heavy, medium, light. example Taran (medium) vs Orkan (medium) Taran has advantage in DPS if they where the same than the your choice will based on player preference rather than what can do the most damage. they just do the same damage in a different way. No need for buff or nerf.

I take down Tarancilot all the time with Plasmahad. Don't whine. Lvl up and take em out!

Two people are trolling. Why would anyone wana nerf Rogatka and Doc.

Lance without Ancile is good but not dominant. It already got its shield nerfed. Which was a stupid move to accommodate ancile use.

Trident and Ancile goes hand in hand imo. If you nerf Ancile, trident will dominate once again. So if you nerf one, nerf the other.

Buffing the speed of heavies would reduce viability. Any limited advantage medium bots have would evaporate.

Rather I would like the 2 changes to increase viabilty...

+10 base speed to all lights.
+10 base speed to all mediums.
Increase turning rate for all bots to compensate


Have beacon capture time be based on bot size. Smaller bots capture faster then mediums and finally heavies.

This gives better roles to all. Lights are scouts. Mediums hold until the heavies get in place and drive the lights away.

I vote trident... needs explosion size reduced imo

I hope that's sarcasm, because if not that's an absolutely ridiculous idea.  You're confusing balance with equality.  Balance is where objects are different and yet all useful in some form; equality is where everything is exactly the same.  If everything is the same, nothing I say better than anything else.  Because, do we really want a Lancelot with the same HP as a Raijin?  Or a Griffin with the same HP as a Leo?  If Lancelot has Raijin's health, no one would ever use Raijin again; Lancelot's speed and armor would make it the far better choice.  Likewise, Leo is currently viable only because it has such a massive health pool.  It's faster than Natasha and Fury, but only marginally so.  And now you want to take the Griffin, already far superior to the Leo in most situations, and effectively double its HP?  Leo no longer has any advantage over Griffin; it becomes completely useless.  And the same thing happens if you bring the Leo's HP down instead of raising the Griffin's health up.  The only way equal health works is if all bots have similar firepower and similar speed and similar abilities.  Which, even if there are minor differences, RUINS the diversity this game currently offers.  Natasha would have to lose firepower if it had as much HP as Leo - otherwise Leo would be at a major disadvantage.  So, let's replace one of Natasha's heavy hard points with a light one.  There, now they also have equal weapons.  Oh wait, now Leo is faster than Natasha.  Definitely not equal.  So let's make Natasha faster.  There, now they're all balanced.  Oh crap, they're the same thing...

It's a bloody awful idea.  Because the only way it works is if everything is the same thing.  Which is laughably ridiculous.

As far as nerfing anything in the current meta, this version is possibly the most balanced I've ever seen it.  Even the notorious junk heap of days gone by, Natasha, is finally a respectable choice.  Natasha is a genuine threat to Fury drivers.  The time when massed Gepards freely terrorized Silver tier is also ended, and the Gepard is relegated to a useful but not overpowered role.  Rhino no longer runs rampant in Gold tier and above; it's been checked by the arrival of the Britbots.  Rhino is still strong as ever, but other bots have been made more powerful to counter it.  Coincidentally, Rhino is also one of the few bots able to solo counter the Ancilot effectively.  Thus, the Rhino's own nemesis is also the Rhino's prey.

The only areas where I see any imbalance is in the complete and utter uselessness of the Golem, Vityaz, and Boa above Silver tier; the similarity between the Kang Dae and the Nashorn; the Ecu's lack of usability; and Fujin's inability to climb walls.

I wouldn't nerf anything.  Instead, increase the power of the other bots/equipment to match.

A game that is rock paper scissors should't have a skill based matchmaking. Just saying.

Tankers missing Gold tier and heading down to Silver?

Taran ancillots AINT unstoppable. Go on the wiki and do the math, all bots & weapons equal it loses every time to a Plasmahad. That frontal shield is much weaker than a Galahads at the same level. Face to face in the open the ancillot will go down every time (less dps, less shield HP). In a corner shooting fight the Galahad can bring 3.5 Magnums worth of DPS to bear, ancillot only 1.5.

Ancillots have advantages being its corner shooting is excellent with its weapon placement and they can stop RDBs & Tridents that invariably join in. When I'm in my tarancillot, plasmahads are perhaps my greatest threat, more than another ancillot.