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Post by ronin on Dec 5, 2016 9:27:27 GMT -5
Hello!
First sorry for long post, but I figure it would be better to let you know all instead of left with plenty of questions.
My current stats are:
Level 30
Victories: 709
Max destroyed: 10
Max damage: 775 992
Max winning serie: 17
SONS OF DEATH [SOD]
(I have a feeling that most are in different time zone [GMT +2] so mostly play solo, usually end up having 3-10 gold per fight. Like more of close combat and still have been more or less happy with myself / enemies / winrate)
Last 50 battle average:
Destroyed: 3.3, Damage 344 287, Victories 68%
Current hangar: (5 slots)
lvl - bot name / lvl - weapons
6 - Vityaz / 9 - CRV Pin + 8 CRV Pin + 7 Trident
6 - Leo / (3x) 8 Ep Magnum + 8 ECC Thunder
6 - Griffin / (2x) 8 E-SG Taran + (2x) 8 SURA-F Pinata
6 - Boa / 8 R40M Orkan + 8 ECC Thunder
6 - Rhino / (2x) 8 EP Magnum + (2x) 7 S-25 Tulumbas
AG: 26 203 355
Au: 1918
Wp: 10 815
Hangar:
Bots:
1 - GI Patton
5 - GI Patton
4 - Golem
5 - Destrier
2 - Boa
7 - Leo
6 - Boa
6 - Griffin
5 - Cossack
Weapons:
Heavy
8 - ECC Thunder
6 - KwK 448mm
4 - KwK 448mm
3 - KwK 448mm (5x.. ..I guess I should look my storage bit more often and sell these extra stuff)
5 - Zenit
Medium:
6 - GAU Punisher T (x2)
5 - AC Molot T
4 - AC Molot T (x2)
7 - S-25 Tulumbas (x2)
5 - S-25 Tulumbas
Light:
6 - GAU Punisher (x3)
4 - GAU Punisher
5 - AC Molot (x2)
4 - AC Molot
4 - AT Spiral (x2)
6 - SM Noricum
5 - SM Noricum (x2)
6 - SURA - F pinata (x2)
3 - Ecu
4 - Ecu
5 - SURA - F pinata
5 - CRV Pin (x4)
(Will leave some random lvl1 weapons off)
My goals and some reasoning:
- Trying to save 2500 Au for Galahad
- Trying to save Wp for.. ..hmm, not sure, read how great Carnage with 2x Trident is.. ..but now I kind of not really like my Vityaz. Maybe it would be more fun to play with 2x ECC Thunder
So, suggestions. Ideas? What have I done wrong? What to do next? Where to aim?
Naturally I do try to make daily quests and so on... BTW sorry for typo's. I do not speak english so I hope you can still manage to catch what I was trying to ask.
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Post by noname on Dec 5, 2016 10:41:40 GMT -5
Hanger is out of balance.
Your rhino is adding a wsp bot penalty of 20% on top of your highest hanger score, which are the heavies. Match Maker uses that score and some other data to match your team/opponents. The Vitz and Boa suffer greatly because they are under leveled already.
Level any light bots 3 bot levels and 2 weapons levels over mediums, and the same for mediums over heavies. I think at that level I would consider swapping the vitz for anything other than a golem... Carnage, Rog...
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Post by ronin on Dec 6, 2016 3:50:56 GMT -5
Hmm, so in short you suggest that I do now:
Take my:
5 - Destrier + add lvl 7 gun(s)
2 - Boa + add lvl 5 gun(s)
Get few other medium bots for lvl 2 + lvl 5 guns.
Keep grinding using them untill I have:
Lvl 6 heavies with lvl 8 guns (done)
Lvl 9 mediums with lvl 11 guns (need some work)
Lvl 12 lights with lvl 14 guns (is that even possible? Was top lvl 12 or 20? for guns, I think for bots it is 12)
And using these I will have same tier as I am now, right?
Hmm.. ..thank you. Anyone else have ideas, corrections or so?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 4:15:57 GMT -5
The only mediums you wanna bring alongside your 6/8 heavys are Galahad and Carnage (plus Boas -though a Leo wont cost upgrade time, and eventually Fujins).
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 6, 2016 4:29:27 GMT -5
You are in borderline High Silver and Low Gold, so I suggest to get rid of your weaker bots first, to create a balanced hangar.
With your gold, get your Orkans first before getting Galahad. Get at least 4x Orkans, you will need it to face shield bots. Replace the Tulumbas on the Rhino to Orkans.
Then get a Griffin and make it RDB (2x Tulumbas from Rhino, 2x Pins from Vityaz), replace your Vityaz (really underpowered) with this. This will be your mid-range bot right up till gold tier and beyond. Until you can come up with Tridents Carnage or Fury later on but RDB Griffin is still used at max tier hangars.
Convert your current Griffin to full Plasma with 2x Taran 2x Magnums. Take the Magnums from your current Rhino, and swap the pinatas to the Rhino with Orkans to make it DB Rhino (2x Pinatas 2x Orkans)
You can choose to keep the Boa and Leo. You should see some significant improvements with these changes.
Final lineup: (1st draft: short term target)
RDB Griffin (2x Tulumbas 2x CRV Pins)
Plasma Leo (3x Magnums 1x Thunder)
Plasma Griffin (2x Taran 2x Magnum)
DB Rhino (2x Pinata 2x Orkan)
Boa (1x Orkan 1x Thunder)
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 6, 2016 4:33:45 GMT -5
You are in borderline High Silver and Low Gold, so I suggest to get rid of your weaker bots first, to create a balanced hangar. With your gold, get your Orkans first before getting Galahad. Get at least 4x Orkans. Replace the Tulumbas on the Rhino to Orkans. Then get a Griffin and make it RDB (2x Tulumbas from Rhino, 2x Pins from Vityaz), replace your Vityaz (really underpowered) with this. This will be your mid-range bot right up till gold tier and beyond. Unless you can come up with Tridents Carnage or Fury. Convert your current Griffin to full Plasma with 2x Taran 2x Magnums. Take the Magnums from your current Rhino, and swap the pinatas to the Rhino with Orkans to make it DB Rhino (2x Pinatas 2x Orkans) You can choose to keep the Boa and Leo. You should see some significant improvements with these changes. Final lineup: (1st draft: short term target) RDB Griffin (2x Tulumbas 2x CRV Pins) Plasma Leo (3x Magnums 1x Thunder) Plasma Griffin (2x Taran 2x Magnum) DB Rhino (2x Pinata 2x Orkan) Boa (1x Orkan 1x Thunder) id swap the Griffin and the rhino around  |
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 6, 2016 4:36:32 GMT -5
You are in borderline High Silver and Low Gold, so I suggest to get rid of your weaker bots first, to create a balanced hangar. With your gold, get your Orkans first before getting Galahad. Get at least 4x Orkans. Replace the Tulumbas on the Rhino to Orkans. Then get a Griffin and make it RDB (2x Tulumbas from Rhino, 2x Pins from Vityaz), replace your Vityaz (really underpowered) with this. This will be your mid-range bot right up till gold tier and beyond. Unless you can come up with Tridents Carnage or Fury. Convert your current Griffin to full Plasma with 2x Taran 2x Magnums. Take the Magnums from your current Rhino, and swap the pinatas to the Rhino with Orkans to make it DB Rhino (2x Pinatas 2x Orkans) You can choose to keep the Boa and Leo. You should see some significant improvements with these changes. Final lineup: (1st draft: short term target) RDB Griffin (2x Tulumbas 2x CRV Pins) Plasma Leo (3x Magnums 1x Thunder) Plasma Griffin (2x Taran 2x Magnum) DB Rhino (2x Pinata 2x Orkan) Boa (1x Orkan 1x Thunder) id swap the Griffin and the rhino around Haha I am running the other way round too, Orkan with Aphids instead on Griffin. But DB Rhino is easier to play than Plasma Rhino imo, and Plasma Griff is easier to play than DB Griff, especially in high silver/low gold tier. |
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Post by ronin on Dec 10, 2016 9:43:12 GMT -5
Update this far:
My current stats are:
Level 30
Victories: 764
Max destroyed: 10
Max damage: 775 992
Max winning serie: 18
Last 50 battle average:
Destroyed: 3.4, Damage 331 711, Victories 70%
Current hangar: (5 slots)
lvl - bot name / lvl - weapons
6 - Griffin / (2x) 7 S-25 Tulumbas + (2x) 9 CRV Pin
6 - Leo / (3x) 8 Ep Magnum + 8 ECC Thunder
6 - Griffin / (2x) 8 E-SG Taran + (2x) 8 EP Magnum
6 - Boa / 5 R40M Orkan + 8 ECC Thunder
6 - Rhino / (2x) 8 SURA-F Pinata + (2x) 8/6 R40M Orkan
AG: 30 738 061
Au: 143
Wp: 1 265
Hangar:
Bots:
1 - GI Patton
5 - GI Patton
5 - Golem
5 - Destrier
2 - Boa
7 - Leo
6 - Boa
7 - Vityaz
5 - Cossack
6 - Carnage
So now I have 6 - Carnage + 2 more R40M Orkan. Thank you all for good advices!
Will try to get Carnage lvl 7 or so and take it a ride. Allso will try to update R40M Orkan lvl 8 all. (And get that 4:th R40M Orkan if you all think it is a better thing then trying to get Galahad.)
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Post by ronin on Dec 31, 2016 4:35:19 GMT -5
And update:
My current stats are:
Level 30
Victories: 997
Max destroyed: 10
Max damage: 944 878
Max winning serie: 18
Last 50 battle average:
Destroyed: 3.5, Damage 383 644, Victories 74%
Current hangar: (5 slots)
lvl - bot name / lvl - weapons
6 Galahad - 8 R40M Orkan / (2x) 8/9 EP Magnum
6 - Griffin / (2x) 7 S-25 Tulumbas + (2x) 9 CRV Pin
6 - Griffin / (2x) 8 E-SG Taran + (2x) 8 EP Magnum
6 - Rhino / (2x) 8 EP Magnum + (2x) 8 R40M Orkan
7 - Carnage / (2x) 8/9 ECC Thunder
I am thinking of (is this a silly idea?) putting 2x 7 Trident in Carnage (I kind of like using Carnage more then russian death button Griffin) and getting rid of 2x griffins, taking in use either 7 Boa / 9 ECC Thunder + 8 E-SG Taran & 6 Golem / 8 ECC Thunder + 8 EP Magnum + 8 E-SG Taran OR 7 Vityaz / 8 ECC Thunder + 8 EP Magnum & something?
So I guess question is, should I put in storage Rhino allso and use all 5x medium bots? Ideas, thoughts? I am quite sure that I am now in trash gold serie, this might put me down for high silver or so?
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Post by ronin on Jan 1, 2017 6:17:20 GMT -5
Double post...
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Post by ronin on Jan 1, 2017 6:21:09 GMT -5
Trying it out and one of the most oddest fight just happen.
It seem that I managed to make 556 132 damage and get 4 kill (and 5 gold + 5 snowflakes) using only my 7 - Carnage / 2x 7 Trident in that desert map.
Still using my rhino but rest are medium bots now.
Question still is: should I try to make all medium hangar? I do like to use Rhino but would using something else instead my level drop from trash gold to high silver or so? Anyone?
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6 - Galahad - 8 E-SG Taran / (2x) 8/9 EP Magnum
6 - Golem / 8 ECC Thunder / / 8 E-SG Taran / 8 EP Magnum
7 - Boa / 8 R40M Orkan + 9 ECC Thunder
6 - Rhino / (2x) 8 EP Magnum + (2x) 8 R40M Orkan
7 - Carnage / (2x) 7 Trident
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 1, 2017 9:05:11 GMT -5
Trying it out and one of the most oddest fight just happen. It seem that I managed to make 556 132 damage and get 4 kill (and 5 gold + 5 snowflakes) using only my 7 - Carnage / 2x 7 Trident in that desert map. Still using my rhino but rest are medium bots now. Question still is: should I try to make all medium hangar? I do like to use Rhino but would using something else instead my level drop from trash gold to high silver or so? Anyone? ( 6 - Galahad - 8 E-SG Taran / (2x) 8/9 EP Magnum 6 - Golem / 8 ECC Thunder / / 8 E-SG Taran / 8 EP Magnum 7 - Boa / 8 R40M Orkan + 9 ECC Thunder 6 - Rhino / (2x) 8 EP Magnum + (2x) 8 R40M Orkan 7 - Carnage / (2x) 7 Trident ) Note, much 'preciation if you'd use shorthand: 6/8.67 PDB Galahad 6/8 Thunder Plasma Golem 7/8.5 TO Boa 6/8 Mag Orkan Rhino 7/7 Trident Carnage Dont bother with sliding your hangar back to all mediums. The track you're on right now is good enough, just need to adjust them numbers to: 6/10 Heavies (Rhino) 8/10 Mediums (Ghad, Golem, Boa, Carny) |
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