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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 29, 2017 2:31:36 GMT -5
Alright, so after a long and miserable day filled with tons of terrible matches I cannot help but wonder if any others have been experiencing this same phenomenon.
It seems that in all of the greed and hustle to capitalize on the event rewards for maximum return, the tankers are at an all time high. Has anyone else been noticing a shift in leagues as tankers from higher levels start filtering down?
In turn, this causes more losses for those playing normally and slowly but surely shoves them a few steps down the ladder. Seems like there is a domino effect going on and everyone is shifting down a league. I guess maybe it could just be the way the ball rolls in the current Match Maker and tomorrow will be filled with incredible wins like yesterday was. I can only hope after the annoying onslaught of Furies and Ancilot hoards which were faced today.
On the plus side, I can really thank all of the Forum Mercenaries for squadding up and keeping the experience a fun one despite the horrible string of losses!
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Post by Why? on Apr 29, 2017 3:12:40 GMT -5
What I think is we got a lucky break from timezones. When the event rolled in, it was dead of night-next morning rush-workday for players in East-Asia. Now that today in Saturday here, and well since most tankers and cheaters I see are from that timezone, you get the picture.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 29, 2017 3:22:53 GMT -5
haha
You saying we Americans don't play fair?
Maybe, but also more likely that once people realized that they get GOLD rewards for losing and even more from winning the game was on. They CAN'T lose no matter what!
They are rewarded on the way down and then when they get to where ever they choose to start beating on people they are rewarded even more by overpowering everyone and getting the top damage reward.
To ADD to that reward they easily skate right through the added task reward feature.
Pixonic has REALLY SCREWED UP on this event.
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Post by Why? on Apr 29, 2017 3:57:23 GMT -5
haha You saying we Americans don't play fair? Maybe, but also more likely that once people realized that they get GOLD rewards for losing and even more from winning the game was on. They CAN'T lose no matter what! They are rewarded on the way down and then when they get to where ever they choose to start beating on people they are rewarded even more by overpowering everyone and getting the top damage reward. To ADD to that reward they easily skate right through the added task reward feature. Pixonic has REALLY SCREWED UP on this event. I'm saying the asian servers are full of cheaters and fixers in any MMO I have ever played, including this one. Not even generalizing, just check and you'll see most of these tankers and other stuff have Korean/Chinese-Japanese Kanji/Tagalog IGNs. |
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 29, 2017 4:11:15 GMT -5
hahah those dirty dirty dogs!
I think it does happen all over the place but being that mobile games reach many more parts of the world since cell phones are far more prevalent than PC's or consoles, the likely hood of players who haven't necessarily been taught the value of sportsmanship and fair play is much, much greater.
Many probably aren't even aware of the pain they may cause others (nor would they give a 「dookie」 either) but instead, think that they are just the smartest in the world for figuring out the system and maximizing profits.
You do see full clan squads doing it though too. People always do anything they can to win, that's the game to them. Finding loopholes is more satisfactory to them than solid, competitive, and fair fights.
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Post by Nitro on Apr 29, 2017 5:24:38 GMT -5
And silver dwellers like me are seeing easier opponents in levels I usually get pummeled out of as soon as I get into them. Perhaps the tankers have passed me up and gone lower?
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Post by moody on Apr 29, 2017 7:45:30 GMT -5
Because league points are equally distributed. The premise of this thread is inaccurate.
For every loss, someone else is winning.
Sorry, your point is null.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Apr 29, 2017 9:06:17 GMT -5
If anything, I've seen people playing much harder, which is fun... even if it means I get my [bum-bum] handed to me more often!
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Post by GreenFace on Apr 29, 2017 9:13:33 GMT -5
Playing much harder? I can live with that.
Deliberately playing bad so someone can move down his league, and so he can have easier chance to finish the event tasks (wins, destroys, etc), while getting 2 gold each time he does that? Hmmm...
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Post by Golden Sabre on Apr 29, 2017 9:15:23 GMT -5
If anything, I've seen people playing much harder, which is fun... even if it means I get my [bum-bum] handed to me more often! My sentiments exactly, I haven't played yet today but yesterday I got in 5 rounds. I lost the first 3 in a row , won the next two but was in the top 3 players in all of the matches. Now, going back to OP, there were no tankers in any of these matches. I am silver one on android |
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Apr 29, 2017 9:32:41 GMT -5
... tankers, you say...? Screw 'em, says I...  |
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Post by GreenFace on Apr 29, 2017 13:44:04 GMT -5
Quick, naive question:
In solo play, how can you tell that other players (teammates or opponents) are real people?
Sometimes I've just thinking, why when I'm in higher winrate, my teammates are much dumber than when I was in near 50%? I don't mean to say that I'm a good player, but the teammates' ignorance is too conspicuous. Neglecting the beacons, do swarming attack to the most guarded points, keep shooting on a direction while he's been shot many times from another angle, and anything else that makes us think "how can they reach this point of advancement if they really don't know how to play the game?".
Just a honest, sincere question.
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Post by mechtout on Apr 29, 2017 14:37:32 GMT -5
tons of sandbaggers right now. exactly as it was when mm first came out and was damaged based. Many games with blues that just sat back and collected silver, except this time its gold. you'll end up being the lone guy trying to grab the beacons to actually win. saw a fury today shooting backwards towards the blue spawn 「whiskey tango foxtrot」!!
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Post by sharpmango on Apr 29, 2017 17:34:52 GMT -5
I think there are 2 things going on here.
1) There are a LOT more people playing. It makes the matches more intense and it makes the percentiles larger. So lets say for example with 100k players and 10 divisions, 0-10,000 people are in the lowest division. With 200,000 people playing, now 20,000 people have to go in the lowest division. With a lot of people coming back, maybe even a lot of veterans, I think this may be causing a push down effect.
2) Tanking is definitely up, but it should be a net neutral. This is the worst it's been since leaver's queue was introduced. I don't know what's going on. I thought it was meant to deal with that.
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Personal note: I almost got pushed into Silver 3 (from Silver 1) with a string of losses. Battling back and trying to get into Silver 1. My damage has also gone through the roof and hit 450k+. I think it's because a lot of people are going for beacons and using underpowered bots which are easier to kill.
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Post by Insane Demon on Apr 29, 2017 17:36:03 GMT -5
Alright, so after a long and miserable day filled with tons of terrible matches I cannot help but wonder if any others have been experiencing this same phenomenon. It seems that in all of the greed and hustle to capitalize on the event rewards for maximum return, the tankers are at an all time high. Has anyone else been noticing a shift in leagues as tankers from higher levels start filtering down? In turn, this causes more losses for those playing normally and slowly but surely shoves them a few steps down the ladder. Seems like there is a domino effect going on and everyone is shifting down a league. I guess maybe it could just be the way the ball rolls in the current Match Maker and tomorrow will be filled with incredible wins like yesterday was. I can only hope after the annoying onslaught of Furies and Ancilot hoards which were faced today. On the plus side, I can really thank all of the Forum Mercenaries for squadding up and keeping the experience a fun one despite the horrible string of losses! I don't think I've experienced this. All of the battles I've played seem fair. Hell, I'm seeing players with only 3 bot slots playing damn good in Silver II. |
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 29, 2017 19:56:03 GMT -5
For any of you not experiencing this, have you tried playing full squad matches and at what leagues?
It's fine when you're soloing for the most part.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 29, 2017 20:46:25 GMT -5
Because league points are equally distributed. The premise of this thread is inaccurate. For every loss, someone else is winning. Sorry, your point is null. Okay, the leagues aren't literally shifting because where would the bottom guys go? That was more of an attention grabber than anything. But you get the idea of what I am saying......or are you saying this isn't happening? |
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 30, 2017 2:12:19 GMT -5
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Post by moody on Apr 30, 2017 2:13:42 GMT -5
Because league points are equally distributed. The premise of this thread is inaccurate. For every loss, someone else is winning. Sorry, your point is null. Okay, the leagues aren't literally shifting because where would the bottom guys go? That was more of an attention grabber than anything. But you get the idea of what I am saying......or are you saying this isn't happening? I am dropping at the moment, more because I am trying to complete challenges etc. and I am not a high damage dealer - therefore = wins and losses to me mean an average slight drop in league rating. in general however I am saying it isn't happening. There is no way that it can. |
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Post by moody on Apr 30, 2017 2:17:12 GMT -5
I don't know what point these results are showing. maybe I have misunderstood your premise? |
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Post by Vectivus on May 10, 2017 10:47:46 GMT -5
I only play solo games with randos, myself. I'm in Android.
Recently, around when the event started, I have seen my game and the game of those around me largely improve to the point where I've climbed into Gold III and seem to be holding my own there, where before it seemed to be really difficult to break into Silver III. My win rate hovers around 70% or so. I think this is partially due to my being able to assess battles better and develop better tactics, and also due to tankers / leavers / other children being less of an issue. Having a functional team is freaking awesome.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 10, 2017 10:55:17 GMT -5
I have been in Gold 2 for a bit before the event and a little after... now, I am seeing a LOT more level 10s, 11s, and 12s in Gold 1 and 2, with some of those obvious tankers on the way up and some that are probably just on the tail end of a losing streak from somewhere in Diamond. So, In effect, I think I understand the premise of the OP and it has firmly settled in Gold now... Whereas when this was posted, it was prolly in Diamond or above. I don't know that we will see it spread much further down, but I can attest to the change in normal Gold level hangars now compared to a week ago... in my games, anyway.
JMO YMMV
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 10, 2017 12:58:31 GMT -5
Well something is shifting. I have been in iOS gold 1 for about a month now and I only rarely see Lances in my games usually one or 2 including mine. But lately I had a game with 3-4 Lances. It gets worse as you go up. I squadded with some expert guys and there was at least 8 lances during that game.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on May 10, 2017 13:37:03 GMT -5
Well something is shifting. I have been in iOS gold 1 for about a month now and I only rarely see Lances in my games usually one or 2 including mine. But lately I had a game with 3-4 Lances. It gets worse as you go up. I squadded with some expert guys and there was at least 8 lances during that game. Maybe they are winnings from the event? |
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Post by vin5240 on May 10, 2017 18:03:20 GMT -5
haha You saying we Americans don't play fair? Maybe, but also more likely that once people realized that they get GOLD rewards for losing and even more from winning the game was on. They CAN'T lose no matter what! They are rewarded on the way down and then when they get to where ever they choose to start beating on people they are rewarded even more by overpowering everyone and getting the top damage reward. To ADD to that reward they easily skate right through the added task reward feature. Pixonic has REALLY SCREWED UP on this event. I'm saying the asian servers are full of cheaters and fixers in any MMO I have ever played, including this one. Not even generalizing, just check and you'll see most of these tankers and other stuff have Korean/Chinese-Japanese Kanji/Tagalog IGNs. No matter what game, there will always be those that try to exploit the game to their benefit. They are still playing by the rules of the game and haven't "hacked" the game in any way so I'd hardly call it cheating. I think they are brilliant to figuring out how to exploit the system lol |
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Post by blastronaut on May 10, 2017 18:17:29 GMT -5
I'm saying the asian servers are full of cheaters and fixers in any MMO I have ever played, including this one. Not even generalizing, just check and you'll see most of these tankers and other stuff have Korean/Chinese-Japanese Kanji/Tagalog IGNs. No matter what game, there will always be those that try to exploit the game to their benefit. They are still playing by the rules of the game and haven't "hacked" the game in any way so I'd hardly call it cheating. I think they are brilliant to figuring out how to exploit the system lol I agree. Americans are by far the dumbest gamers I have ever encountered. Asians and Russians play the game to win, Americans play for honor or ethics or some other bull?poo-poo? excuse to justify playing like a dumb 「bum-bum」 and losing. Plenty on this forum will proudly say "sure I lose a lot but I play the game "the right way"". No jack 「bum-bum」 es, you aren't playing the game to win. Get you heads out of your 「bum-bum」 es. Rant Over. |
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Post by Firebeard on May 10, 2017 18:24:35 GMT -5
No matter what game, there will always be those that try to exploit the game to their benefit. They are still playing by the rules of the game and haven't "hacked" the game in any way so I'd hardly call it cheating. I think they are brilliant to figuring out how to exploit the system lol I agree. Americans are by far the dumbest gamers I have ever encountered. Asians and Russians play the game to win, Americans play for honor or ethics or some other bull?poo-poo? excuse to justify playing like a dumb ?bum-bum? and losing. Plenty on this forum will proudly say "sure I lose a lot but I play the game "the right way"". No jack ?bum-bum? es, you aren't playing the game to win. Get you heads out of your ?bum-bum? es. Rant Over. Hey! I'm the guy holding off 3 Opponents at Springfield in the city so you can Rundown some Beacons .. if we Lose - you weren't maintaining your role. .. just say'n |
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Post by blastronaut on May 10, 2017 18:30:02 GMT -5
I agree. Americans are by far the dumbest gamers I have ever encountered. Asians and Russians play the game to win, Americans play for honor or ethics or some other bull?poo-poo? excuse to justify playing like a dumb ?bum-bum? and losing. Plenty on this forum will proudly say "sure I lose a lot but I play the game "the right way"". No jack ?bum-bum? es, you aren't playing the game to win. Get you heads out of your ?bum-bum? es. Rant Over. Hey! I'm the guy holding off 3 Opponents at Springfield in the city so you can Rundown some Beacons .. if we Lose - you weren't maintaining your role. .. just say'n And I'm the guy playing 1 vs 6 at the end because your hangars are under-leveled from 「fluffernutter」ing about, instead of farming gold using the most efficient methods (like every other country on the planet). |
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Post by vin5240 on May 10, 2017 18:37:15 GMT -5
No matter what game, there will always be those that try to exploit the game to their benefit. They are still playing by the rules of the game and haven't "hacked" the game in any way so I'd hardly call it cheating. I think they are brilliant to figuring out how to exploit the system lol I agree. Americans are by far the dumbest gamers I have ever encountered. Asians and Russians play the game to win, Americans play for honor or ethics or some other bull?poo-poo? excuse to justify playing like a dumb ?bum-bum? and losing. Plenty on this forum will proudly say "sure I lose a lot but I play the game "the right way"". No jack ?bum-bum? es, you aren't playing the game to win. Get you heads out of your ?bum-bum? es. Rant Over. Being able to exploit and find loopholes is a skill. Your comment - "sure I lose a lot but I play the game "the right way" reminded me of this. Two groups of people standing in front of each other standing still shooting at each other.  Took a foreigner to tell them that what they were doing is stupid asf and introduced guerrilla warfare. |
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Post by Firebeard on May 10, 2017 19:10:34 GMT -5
Hey! I'm the guy holding off 3 Opponents at Springfield in the city so you can Rundown some Beacons .. if we Lose - you weren't maintaining your role. .. just say'n And I'm the guy playing 1 vs 6 at the end because your hangars are under-leveled from ?firetruck?ing about, instead of farming gold using the most efficient methods (like every other country on the planet). Hey! I'm the guy holding off 3 Opponents at Springfield in the city so you can Rundown some Beacons .. if we Lose - you weren't maintaining your role. .. just say'n And I'm the guy playing 1 vs 6 at the end because your hangars are under-leveled from ?firetruck?ing about, instead of farming gold using the most efficient methods (like every other country on the planet). I've been last Mecha standing several times. My 4/12's do very nicely, Thank you. Farming/Exploiting/Seal Clubbing .. it's all the same. Just because your Teammates earned their Gold rather than exploiting an oversight, does not make you superior nor them inferior. Please don't add prejudice remarks. |
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