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Post by Strayed on Apr 25, 2017 23:45:21 GMT -5
Whoops, accidentally moved this into the mod board, sorry.
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Post by lockslywr on Apr 26, 2017 22:01:25 GMT -5
So... if I see the usual scumbags that sit on one map and snipe. I will quit. If I see the usual gang that only plays power plant. I quit. If I see Berserker (GOD clan) and his 5 ecu sheild stalkers that kills his bots off. I quit. If I see a single bot standing idle. I quit. Don't care if it's a connection problem. I quit. And..... you think that by end up in quitter's league where all the quitters are you'll improve your situation??? Explain how it will be different to what we have now. 12/12 hangars pulling off sub 100k games. 3 or 4 on 6 games. Players freezing 1 minute into game.
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Apr 26, 2017 22:04:04 GMT -5
You are free to play the game any way you like. As long as a person is not hacking, I'm good. I get so tired of the group think tyranny that seems to pervade this game. I don't want to be told how to play, what bots and weapons I can or can't use, or that I have to like and play all maps. I don't want to be labeled "this" or "that". I want freedom for myself and for others to play how we choose.....to have fun how we choose. As long as a person is not hacking the game or breaking a well defined pixonic rule (their are none), I have no problems. It's a GAME.....play on.....have fun. I'm glad y'all are finally catching on. I have been saying this since the new MM was implemented. ?firetruck? anybody who tells you the 'right' way to play or rants about you not playing 'their' way. yo tankers all sucks!
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Post by lockslywr on May 15, 2017 23:36:20 GMT -5
I'm glad y'all are finally catching on. I have been saying this since the new MM was implemented. ?firetruck? anybody who tells you the 'right' way to play or rants about you not playing 'their' way. yo tankers all sucks! obviously not dude. You can be very well rewarded for being in TL.
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Post by zr on May 15, 2017 23:54:35 GMT -5
You don't need to tank,I,m back in LQ again! All I do is not play Springfield. I always leave don't drop a bot, I don't want to be in LQ, But hate Springfield
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 16, 2017 8:36:25 GMT -5
And..... you think that by end up in quitter's league where all the quitters are you'll improve your situation??? Explain how it will be different to what we have now. 12/12 hangars pulling off sub 100k games. 3 or 4 on 6 games. Players freezing 1 minute into game. so you tank because others tank, which will cause others to do the same...not hypocritical at all!
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Post by Vectivus on May 16, 2017 10:17:25 GMT -5
And..... you think that by end up in quitter's league where all the quitters are you'll improve your situation??? Explain how it will be different to what we have now. 12/12 hangars pulling off sub 100k games. 3 or 4 on 6 games. Players freezing 1 minute into game. Throwing fire onto a fire doe not equal less fire. You're just passing the buck on to someone else when you tank. "My experience sucks, so I'm going make someone else's experience suck so that mine doesn't suck as much." It's NOT A SINGLE PLAYER GAME. You're playing a game with FIVE OTHER PEOPLE. It's NOT JUST YOUR GAME. If you're so unhappy with a team-based game that you're willing to screw over teammates in order to have more fun with it, you either need to reevaluate your priorities, or stick to single-player games. Either way, stop walking all over -my- fun.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on May 16, 2017 10:23:36 GMT -5
Explain how it will be different to what we have now. 12/12 hangars pulling off sub 100k games. 3 or 4 on 6 games. Players freezing 1 minute into game. Throwing fire onto a fire doe not equal less fire. You're just passing the buck on to someone else when you tank. "My experience sucks, so I'm going make someone else's experience suck so that mine doesn't suck as much." It's NOT A SINGLE PLAYER GAME. You're playing a game with FIVE OTHER PEOPLE. It's NOT JUST YOUR GAME. If you're so unhappy with a team-based game that you're willing to screw over teammates in order to have more fun with it, you either need to reevaluate your priorities, or stick to single-player games. Either way, stop walking all over -my- fun. I've given up trying to explain this. Thereis no solution to sitters unless there is a way to vote someone off for not doing anything. The only solution for people who hang their teammates out to dry is the two queues. I just wish there was some way to indicate to a player that they are in the LQ and make sure new players don't end up there to be preyed upon by more experienced players.
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Post by thes1darstard on May 16, 2017 10:46:31 GMT -5
Football, golf, tennis and basketball are all GAMES first, HOSTED by the professional leagues. Just like War Robots is a a game HOSTED by Pixonic. You want to show up at your local pickup basketball game and start acting like a cry baby? 3 point line is too far? Rim too high, or you're allowed to double-dribble because learning how to do it properly is too hard for you? It's the GAME - play it by the rules or don't play. If people start cheating, it ruins it for EVERYONE. It doesn't mean that everyone should start cheating. Dropping matches, tanking, or being too lazy to learn to play the game properly are all selfish behaviors. Be BRAVE people!!! STAND UP! Tell the cheaters their behavior sucks. If you don't like certain maps - tell Pixonic. Tell them to make more maps. Tell them to add map selection or map voting. Keep telling them! Send them a design for a map if you think of an interesting one! Don't help make this game something you want less of, help make it something you want MORE of! I think the overwhelming amount of people saying go back to old mm speaks for itself. If you knew anything about gaming ud know this mm has been used for years by other companies and still being fixed....we're about 2 years behind them though. Current mm supports tanking even gives them a special place to farm. Even low lvl accounts can tank by switching hangers to a lower hanger to do less damage. All those leagues are pretty well pay to win. ....so really what's your point with them? Nor do they use a elo system for matchmaking. And players do tell pixonic what they want...which if you weren't so lazy yourself ud see for yourself in these forums The old mm could have been fixed easy ....again with what info you could find in these forumns. And when you start paying for my games you can tell me how to play....till then learn to play yourself and squad up so tanking isn't a problem for you. I had typed up a response to this before, but the thread was moved before I could post. I'm coming back to this now because, I'm still frustrated. I really tried to write something that would push some positive energy (I started negatively, but brought it around) into the board and into this group of people and you really ran with it in the opposite direction. I'm going to address your points here: I think the overwhelming amount of people saying go back to old mm speaks for itself. If you knew anything about gaming ud know this mm has been used for years by other companies and still being fixed....we're about 2 years behind them though. Current mm supports tanking even gives them a special place to farm. Even low lvl accounts can tank by switching hangers to a lower hanger to do less damage. All those leagues are pretty well pay to win. ....so really what's your point with them? Nor do they use a elo system for matchmaking. And players do tell pixonic what they want...which if you weren't so lazy yourself ud see for yourself in these forums The old mm could have been fixed easy ....again with what info you could find in these forumns. And when you start paying for my games you can tell me how to play....till then learn to play yourself and squad up so tanking isn't a problem for you.New Response: You actually have no idea what I do and do not know about gaming. These forums aren't Pixonic forums, so posting here is NOT telling them what we think. We have no idea how much they do or do not pay attention to the content. You have no idea whether or not I'm lazy, but I'm really not sure why you would think I'm so frustrated if I hadn't been reading these forums. Seriously, did you think I just got a bee in my bonnet one day, then created an account in here and posted that? You continue to trumpet ELO as if it were the answer to all problems, but fail to address any of the problems it will introduce. Namely that the Risk/Reward profile for ELO means that your top players are dis-incented to play as it's far FAR easier to loose points than gain them, given the number of players that are below you in rank vs those at or above your rank. This became a serious issue for a number of competative circuits. So: Old matching making system - drives away new players due to seal clubbing. ELO - drives away top tier competitive players interested in holding high ranks. Pixonic NEEDS to try something else. So draw it up for us. Tell me all the answers. I've played FPSs with competitive clans. I've played sports at the provincial and national level. I've studied game theory. I'll be able to understand. Finally - I DO pay for your game. I've bought things in this game with money I've earned at work, but more importantly I PAY WITH MY TIME - EVERY TIME I PLAY.
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Post by Vectivus on May 16, 2017 10:51:39 GMT -5
Throwing fire onto a fire doe not equal less fire. You're just passing the buck on to someone else when you tank. "My experience sucks, so I'm going make someone else's experience suck so that mine doesn't suck as much." It's NOT A SINGLE PLAYER GAME. You're playing a game with FIVE OTHER PEOPLE. It's NOT JUST YOUR GAME. If you're so unhappy with a team-based game that you're willing to screw over teammates in order to have more fun with it, you either need to reevaluate your priorities, or stick to single-player games. Either way, stop walking all over -my- fun. I've given up trying to explain this. Thereis no solution to sitters unless there is a way to vote someone off for not doing anything. The only solution for people who hang their teammates out to dry is the two queues. I just wish there was some way to indicate to a player that they are in the LQ and make sure new players don't end up there to be preyed upon by more experienced players. I believe Pixonic is going to start removing any player under level 15 from the LQ, if I recall from what I've read elsewhere. I think that's about as good a balance as can be struck in terms of keeping fresh faces away from the Kiddie Table. As to the sitters, I agree. A robust report function much like League of Legends has is probably the way to go. At this point, I think that scoring damage underneath a reasonable threshhold for longer than, say, three games in a row should put someone into the LQ. That would at least make it a lot more work for the little tykes to find their way back to the Table.
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Post by miatahead on May 16, 2017 11:39:49 GMT -5
Remember, this is what you all wanted, an LQ. Reap what you sew.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 16, 2017 11:43:27 GMT -5
As a reminder, LQ rewards are being nerfed by Pixonic. So there will be less "reaping" too. #diddums
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Post by adrenachrome on May 16, 2017 11:46:04 GMT -5
Most of you are old timers... I am new. I never played the old MM. I don't know what LQ is. But I do know if 2 teammates quit and its 4v6 I quit too. Why wouldn't you? If it's late in the match. And it's 3v6 and an obvious loss I quit. Why not? I don't know how to check enemy hangers or spot map specific hangers. But if I new there was a guy with 12/12 bots on the other team I would quit. I am sick of seeing these guys put out a million damage. I have level 5-10 weapons. An average of 8 but get 10/10 to 12/12 hangers on my teams. When I pull out the Leo I am building with level 5 weapons and stand against a Leo with level 10 weapons I get evaporated. I get spawn trapped by big tanks a lot. My rockets aren't strong enough to kill a bot in 2 volleys. I always lose to shield bots when I have no team because my rockets are to weak and you can't run or flank with no cover. They just walk you down like the terminator and wait in the spawn to seal club me. I refuse to dump money into this game. But the grind is rediculas. I do my missions each day and will wait a couple months for my hanger to catch up to my league.... Then maybe I will start playing again.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 16, 2017 11:48:12 GMT -5
Most of you are old timers... I am new. I never played the old MM. I don't know what LQ is. But I do know if 2 teammates quit and its 4v6 I quit too. Why wouldn't you? If it's late in the match. And it's 3v6 and an obvious loss I quit. Why not? I don't know how to check enemy hangers or spot map specific hangers. But if I new there was a guy with 12/12 bots on the other team I would quit. I am sick of seeing these guys put out a million damage. I have level 5-10 weapons. An average of 8 but get 10/10 to 12/12 hangers on my teams. When I pull out the Leo I am building with level 5 weapons and stand against a Leo with level 10 weapons I get evaporated. I get spawn trapped by big tanks a lot. My rockets aren't strong enough to kill a bot in 2 volleys. I always lose to shield bots when I have no team because my rockets are to weak and you can't run or flank with no cover. They just walk you down like the terminator and wait in the spawn to seal club me. I refuse to dump money into this game. But the grind is rediculas. I do my missions each day and will wait a couple months for my hanger to catch up to my league.... Then maybe I will start playing again. Short cut all you want, but as a reasonably advanced player I can tell you I've learned more skill in adversity than I have in triumph.
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 16, 2017 11:51:05 GMT -5
I think the overwhelming amount of people saying go back to old mm speaks for itself. If you knew anything about gaming ud know this mm has been used for years by other companies and still being fixed....we're about 2 years behind them though. Current mm supports tanking even gives them a special place to farm. Even low lvl accounts can tank by switching hangers to a lower hanger to do less damage. All those leagues are pretty well pay to win. ....so really what's your point with them? Nor do they use a elo system for matchmaking. And players do tell pixonic what they want...which if you weren't so lazy yourself ud see for yourself in these forums The old mm could have been fixed easy ....again with what info you could find in these forumns. And when you start paying for my games you can tell me how to play....till then learn to play yourself and squad up so tanking isn't a problem for you. I had typed up a response to this before, but the thread was moved before I could post. I'm coming back to this now because, I'm still frustrated. I really tried to write something that would push some positive energy (I started negatively, but brought it around) into the board and into this group of people and you really ran with it in the opposite direction. I'm going to address your points here: I think the overwhelming amount of people saying go back to old mm speaks for itself. If you knew anything about gaming ud know this mm has been used for years by other companies and still being fixed....we're about 2 years behind them though. Current mm supports tanking even gives them a special place to farm. Even low lvl accounts can tank by switching hangers to a lower hanger to do less damage. All those leagues are pretty well pay to win. ....so really what's your point with them? Nor do they use a elo system for matchmaking. And players do tell pixonic what they want...which if you weren't so lazy yourself ud see for yourself in these forums The old mm could have been fixed easy ....again with what info you could find in these forumns. And when you start paying for my games you can tell me how to play....till then learn to play yourself and squad up so tanking isn't a problem for you.New Response: You actually have no idea what I do and do not know about gaming. These forums aren't Pixonic forums, so posting here is NOT telling them what we think. We have no idea how much they do or do not pay attention to the content. You have no idea whether or not I'm lazy, but I'm really not sure why you would think I'm so frustrated if I hadn't been reading these forums. Seriously, did you think I just got a bee in my bonnet one day, then created an account in here and posted that? You continue to trumpet ELO as if it were the answer to all problems, but fail to address any of the problems it will introduce. Namely that the Risk/Reward profile for ELO means that your top players are dis-incented to play as it's far FAR easier to loose points than gain them, given the number of players that are below you in rank vs those at or above your rank. This became a serious issue for a number of competative circuits. So: Old matching making system - drives away new players due to seal clubbing. ELO - drives away top tier competitive players interested in holding high ranks. Pixonic NEEDS to try something else. So draw it up for us. Tell me all the answers. I've played FPSs with competitive clans. I've played sports at the provincial and national level. I've studied game theory. I'll be able to understand. Finally - I DO pay for your game. I've bought things in this game with money I've earned at work, but more importantly I PAY WITH MY TIME - EVERY TIME I PLAY. you mean the youtube channel game theory or the wiki definition Game theory is "the study of mathematical models of conflict and cooperation between intelligent rational decision-makers." Game theory is mainly used in economics, political science, and psychology, as well as logic, computer science and biology.[1] Originally, it addressed zero-sum games, in which one person's gains result in losses for the other participants. Today, game theory applies to a wide range of behavioral relations, and is now an umbrella term for the science of logical decision making in humans, animals, and computers.
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Post by thes1darstard on May 16, 2017 11:55:28 GMT -5
LOL. I didn't know about the YouTube channel... so I meant the latter.
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 16, 2017 11:57:13 GMT -5
LOL. I didn't know about the YouTube channel... so I meant the latter. check it out if you want to. no war robots theories, unfortunately, but awesome info and you don't have to do any of the research!
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Post by adrenachrome on May 16, 2017 12:12:54 GMT -5
Most of you are old timers... I am new. I never played the old MM. I don't know what LQ is. But I do know if 2 teammates quit and its 4v6 I quit too. Why wouldn't you? If it's late in the match. And it's 3v6 and an obvious loss I quit. Why not? I don't know how to check enemy hangers or spot map specific hangers. But if I new there was a guy with 12/12 bots on the other team I would quit. I am sick of seeing these guys put out a million damage. I have level 5-10 weapons. An average of 8 but get 10/10 to 12/12 hangers on my teams. When I pull out the Leo I am building with level 5 weapons and stand against a Leo with level 10 weapons I get evaporated. I get spawn trapped by big tanks a lot. My rockets aren't strong enough to kill a bot in 2 volleys. I always lose to shield bots when I have no team because my rockets are to weak and you can't run or flank with no cover. They just walk you down like the terminator and wait in the spawn to seal club me. I refuse to dump money into this game. But the grind is rediculas. I do my missions each day and will wait a couple months for my hanger to catch up to my league.... Then maybe I will start playing again. Short cut all you want, but as a reasonably advanced player I can tell you I've learned more skill in adversity than I have in triumph. I was a play tester for the original Xbox. I worked for Microsoft. 1 overpowered bot can win an entire match. Happens more often than not. This isn't a million points.... But I round up. 860,000 is close enough. I had a good team working together. But 1 big guy on the other team destroyed us all. I call BS on 12/12 bots in my MM.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 12:30:18 GMT -5
Skill plays a lot less of a part in War Robots due to all those buffs in weapons / bots.
You could see that first by the buff to heavy bots. Driving heavy bots at faster speeds allows them to be used like the previous mediums, while possessing a great amount of firepower. Don't even get me started on the britbots although all they need is a considerable speed nerf and shield health nerf.
Next was Aphids and Tridents. Tridents need only the ability to point the crosshair at the enemy while having relatively good damage output. Previous Aphids are the weapons for no-brainers. Get close to an enemy, and press the red button. No aim is required and you were guaranteed the ~60K damage per 10 seconds.
Ancile buff was next (as a response to midrange splash). The Ancile Lancelot made the use of more other bots invalid, as you could absorb fire without taking damage and without using skill. Doing that required skill with other bots etc. backpedaling.
Now we will see how the unneeded buff to Tulumbas, Pins, Pinatas and Orkans plays out. As a pilot who primarily runs faster and more fragile bots, I can tell you right now that I will count the reload time of enemy midrangers and plan out my best time to attack. With those rocket buffs, it's another slap in the face for light / medium bot pilots.
And we will just see how the Norricum buff makes it through. I'm not going to be surprised when Pixonic screws up again and makes a big ruckus on the community about Norricum Pattons.
Surely the statistics about what players are running in their hangar tells Pixonic about what to buff, what not to buff and what to nerf. As far as this trend is going, I am not sure if they are even taking any input from their stats.
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Post by thes1darstard on May 16, 2017 13:01:22 GMT -5
Short cut all you want, but as a reasonably advanced player I can tell you I've learned more skill in adversity than I have in triumph. I was a play tester for the original Xbox. I worked for Microsoft. 1 overpowered bot can win an entire match. Happens more often than not. This isn't a million points.... But I round up. 860,000 is close enough. I had a good team working together. But 1 big guy on the other team destroyed us all. I call BS on 12/12 bots in my MM. I've played against 12/12s and it is tough, I agree. From a MM perspective though - there should have been a 12/12 on your side too. Maybe they had a bad game? Dredd's point though, is that quitting half-way through that match would not have served you better. I know that having matches with big power players forced me to be more aware of who was where on the battlefield - as I knew I did not want a direct 1v1 with them, but I also did not want to spend my time just staying away. I'd spent my time trying to create joint attacks and/or flank or simply draw them away from the rest of my team depending on the situation.
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Post by Russel on May 16, 2017 13:32:40 GMT -5
Short cut all you want, but as a reasonably advanced player I can tell you I've learned more skill in adversity than I have in triumph. I was a play tester for the original Xbox. I worked for Microsoft. 1 overpowered bot can win an entire match. Happens more often than not. This isn't a million points.... But I round up. 860,000 is close enough. I had a good team working together. But 1 big guy on the other team destroyed us all. I call BS on 12/12 bots in my MM. Well, I just wanted to point out that: 1) Your team capped beacons 9 times 2) Enemy capped 13 times 3) The top damage dealing enemy bot has NOT capped most beacons, so I presume either it was a sniper, or your team was trying to kill it all the time. 4) Enemy killed 17 bots, so if your average hangar is 4 bots (and I hope you know that 5th slot is a must, right?) that means that by the end of the game you guys had 4*6-17 = 7 bots available. 5) You killed 20 enemy bots Judging by all that - it is strategical fault of your team. Blues were trying to kill more bots, instead of capping more beacon. It is a typical low-league playstyle, "deathmatch play" And I might suggest you listening to Dredd's advice and learn from fault, because, just by numbers, your team captured 9 beacons and killed 20 bots. Enemy team killed 17 bots and capped 13 beacons. And they won, which should bring your attention to the importance of beacon capturing. So you might get a Stalker, a Gareth and a Cossack\Rog\Carnage to counter heavy bots and win more games.
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Post by Vectivus on May 16, 2017 14:25:02 GMT -5
Remember, this is what you all wanted, an LQ. Reap what you sew. I'm fine with LQ. It keeps those who like to have their fun at the expense of others contained nicely to their own little playpen, though there seems to be a resurgence of leavers in NQ as of the past week or so. Guessing that there are some tweaks being performed.
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Post by Vectivus on May 16, 2017 14:36:54 GMT -5
Most of you are old timers... I am new. I never played the old MM. I don't know what LQ is. But I do know if 2 teammates quit and its 4v6 I quit too. Why wouldn't you? If it's late in the match. And it's 3v6 and an obvious loss I quit. Why not? I don't know how to check enemy hangers or spot map specific hangers. But if I new there was a guy with 12/12 bots on the other team I would quit. I am sick of seeing these guys put out a million damage. I have level 5-10 weapons. An average of 8 but get 10/10 to 12/12 hangers on my teams. When I pull out the Leo I am building with level 5 weapons and stand against a Leo with level 10 weapons I get evaporated. I get spawn trapped by big tanks a lot. My rockets aren't strong enough to kill a bot in 2 volleys. I always lose to shield bots when I have no team because my rockets are to weak and you can't run or flank with no cover. They just walk you down like the terminator and wait in the spawn to seal club me. I refuse to dump money into this game. But the grind is rediculas. I do my missions each day and will wait a couple months for my hanger to catch up to my league.... Then maybe I will start playing again. Short cut all you want, but as a reasonably advanced player I can tell you I've learned more skill in adversity than I have in triumph. Attachment Deleted
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 16, 2017 15:18:46 GMT -5
Remember, this is what you all wanted, an LQ. Reap what you sew. I don't know, I think it counterproductive to tear up what you just sewed together. It is also counterproductive to harvest your clothes. So it works both ways.
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Post by amidf on May 16, 2017 15:41:39 GMT -5
Remember, this is what you all wanted, an LQ. Reap what you sew. I don't know, I think it counterproductive to tear up what you just sewed together. It is also counterproductive to harvest your clothes. So it works both ways. Thank you. Scrolled a long way to see if anyone else noticed. -Amid
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Post by adrenachrome on May 16, 2017 16:20:08 GMT -5
I was a play tester for the original Xbox. I worked for Microsoft. 1 overpowered bot can win an entire match. Happens more often than not. This isn't a million points.... But I round up. 860,000 is close enough. I had a good team working together. But 1 big guy on the other team destroyed us all. I call BS on 12/12 bots in my MM. Well, I just wanted to point out that: 1) Your team capped beacons 9 times 2) Enemy capped 13 times 3) The top damage dealing enemy bot has NOT capped most beacons, so I presume either it was a sniper, or your team was trying to kill it all the time. 4) Enemy killed 17 bots, so if your average hangar is 4 bots (and I hope you know that 5th slot is a must, right?) that means that by the end of the game you guys had 4*6-17 = 7 bots available. 5) You killed 20 enemy bots Judging by all that - it is strategical fault of your team. Blues were trying to kill more bots, instead of capping more beacon. It is a typical low-league playstyle, "deathmatch play" And I might suggest you listening to Dredd's advice and learn from fault, because, just by numbers, your team captured 9 beacons and killed 20 bots. Enemy team killed 17 bots and capped 13 beacons. And they won, which should bring your attention to the importance of beacon capturing. So you might get a Stalker, a Gareth and a Cossack\Rog\Carnage to counter heavy bots and win more games. Good guess not being in game. But we capped less beacons because there was a big bot sitting on them bro. Everyone on my team took beacons. Everyone did damage. No one was playing team death match as you claim or no beacons would have been capped bye at least 2 or more players. We lost because in the end big guy held center beacon bye himself versus my whole team. A carnage with 2 12/12 thunders. He evaporated everyone trying to take center beacon the last couple minutes. I have zero Level 12 weapons.
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Post by adrenachrome on May 16, 2017 16:24:44 GMT -5
You say 5th slot is a must... 5th slot scares me. I will just get moved to an even higher league. That's the last thing I need.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 16, 2017 16:26:37 GMT -5
You say 5th slot is a must... 5th slot scares me. I will just get moved to an even higher league. That's the last thing I need. 5th slot simply helps you win. Winning gets you moved up a league. So you're effectively saying here that winning is the last thing you need.
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Post by Russel on May 16, 2017 16:33:44 GMT -5
You say 5th slot is a must... 5th slot scares me. I will just get moved to an even higher league. That's the last thing I need. Actually, no. Slot has nothing to do with the leagues. Let me put it this way: have you ever wanted to get several bots to choose from by the start of the match? Like, three knifers, two snipers, several supports, beacon capper? Well, fifth slot can help you with that. You can have dedicated sniper in those slot, and use it only on Yama/Springfield. Or a pure beacon runner Stalker. You don't need to use all the 5 bots, it just gives you options. Oh, and on your situation with 12/12 bot on center beacon - why do you think you need to take center? Go to their home spawn, there are two beacons. And if this guy is sitting on center - this means that only 5 of reds can defend home beacons, so you got advantage there. That is exactly what I mean (and, possibly, Dredd) by: you need to learn from lost games, because there are nothing that can be learned from victories.
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Post by SlowReflexes on May 16, 2017 17:20:22 GMT -5
Explain how it will be different to what we have now. 12/12 hangars pulling off sub 100k games. 3 or 4 on 6 games. Players freezing 1 minute into game. Throwing fire onto a fire doe not equal less fire. You're just passing the buck on to someone else when you tank. "My experience sucks, so I'm going make someone else's experience suck so that mine doesn't suck as much." It's NOT A SINGLE PLAYER GAME. You're playing a game with FIVE OTHER PEOPLE. It's NOT JUST YOUR GAME. If you're so unhappy with a team-based game that you're willing to screw over teammates in order to have more fun with it, you either need to reevaluate your priorities, or stick to single-player games. Either way, stop walking all over -my- fun. 「dookie」 flows downhill. It's a very difficult argument to make to any given individual, that they should, when they get 「dookie」 on from above, to not pass it on and 「dookie」 on others beneath them. Volunteering someone else to take one for the team, to eat 「dookie」 so someone else can benefit, is a tough sell.
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