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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 25, 2017 7:35:00 GMT -5
Yet everyone ignores the "league" ranking & tanking combination that the matchmaking algorithm helps promote as well. Players don't have to leave/skip matches to tank. They just have to come in last in all matches to get lower rankings. I'm doing it now in the LQ to prove it. Went from Diamond to Bronze in just a couple of days just by being the lowest scorer. And it wouldn't have even taken me that long if it weren't for the leaver/skippers still operating at full capacity in there. I intend to see how low I can get it for experimental purposes and my own now twisted enjoyment of frustrating sh*theels in the LQ.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 25, 2017 9:17:37 GMT -5
The farthest you can go and still hope to be accurate is to say that the matchmaker is "stacked" against you, because that's the design. To say that it is "rigged" or "fixed" is to stretch those words to fit. "Stacked against you" my foot...why do you have to sugarcoat something that's beyond doubt an unethical practice? Chest rewards is also a RIGGED model/algorithm so as to "push" players into paying for keys (or play continuously to amass more than a 1000 keys to have a remote chance of getting something of any worth). It's all rigged to bring players that don't want to pay a cent for the game, to despair and leave the game. This company is using unethical psychological tools (which will lead to its demise - I'm a chartered psychologist and used to be a member of the British psychological society) in order to induce addiction then blackmail you into paying so as to feel moderately competent. Lets don't kid ourselves, this game is for idiots, not rocket science by any means, the bots are modeled after the "stone, scissors, paper" game. Every weapon and bot has its "andidote". As soon as the player realises that it's all about beacons and time, the only thing to make you "a good player" is to have high level durable bots and 5 bot slots. That's the summary of the whole game. Pin it somewhere for all the current victimised kids (and future ones) to see. An unpleasant waste of time. P.S. I doubt that you'll pin it moderator because you are possibly part of the problem, maybe you are an employee of this company or you have some other kind of related interest. You are possibly going to erase it from here as well. Welcome to the forum! What a first post! Mayhap introduce yourself and have a bit of a parley before dropping into moderator shaming on a zombie thread that has nothing to do with what is going on now? Or not, whatever toots your horn... just a suggestion. Good luck in your quest for knowledge of the skills needed to excel and overcome the misma- ... oh... wait, if you have 5 slots and high HP bots you don't need skills according to your post, above... well, I guess you don't have anything to learn. And thank you for calling me an idiot for enjoying the obviously unskilled and kindergarten level play at the leagues above the normal level that the fifth slot is acquired... as we are all just mouth-breathing, button-mashers and don't have to actually apply any of the skills, tactical thinking, and strategic planning that we thought we did to compete... apparently. Ah well... maybe my thought processes are just too dim to realize how dumb I really am... if so, maybe that's good! Ignorance is bliss, as they say, and I can just go back to button mashing! Thank you for showing me the freedom of my lack of intellect! PS... this is a player ran forum... and there is no compensation for the volunteering mods and admins. They, like us, just enjoy the game... or enjoy talking about it... or 「female dog」ing about it (if you searched more you would see that there are plenty of posts that are critical to the Great and Powerful Pix behind the Pay Wall curtain, instead of picking a non-needed fight... but hey, I am forgetting my ignorance... and should go back to drooling.)
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Post by Dredd77 on Sept 25, 2017 9:59:05 GMT -5
The farthest you can go and still hope to be accurate is to say that the matchmaker is "stacked" against you, because that's the design. To say that it is "rigged" or "fixed" is to stretch those words to fit. "Stacked against you" my foot...why do you have to sugarcoat something that's beyond doubt an unethical practice? Chest rewards is also a RIGGED model/algorithm so as to "push" players into paying for keys (or play continuously to amass more than a 1000 keys to have a remote chance of getting something of any worth). It's all rigged to bring players that don't want to pay a cent for the game, to despair and leave the game. This company is using unethical psychological tools (which will lead to its demise - I'm a chartered psychologist and used to be a member of the British psychological society) in order to induce addiction then blackmail you into paying so as to feel moderately competent. Lets don't kid ourselves, this game is for idiots, not rocket science by any means, the bots are modeled after the "stone, scissors, paper" game. Every weapon and bot has its "andidote". As soon as the player realises that it's all about beacons and time, the only thing to make you "a good player" is to have high level durable bots and 5 bot slots. That's the summary of the whole game. Pin it somewhere for all the current victimised kids (and future ones) to see. An unpleasant waste of time. P.S. I doubt that you'll pin it moderator because you are possibly part of the problem, maybe you are an employee of this company or you have some other kind of related interest. You are possibly going to erase it from here as well. Why would I feel the need to erase your post or impose my "related interest" upon it? Chartered psychologist, eh? Might want to brush up on "paranoia" and "delusion" in your trusty ol' ICD reference. Clearly your impressive CV doesn't include being a game designer, because you'd recognize the virtues of the "rock-paper-scissors" model you deride here for game diversity, health, and longevity. Nothing I said in the post you took issue with gave Pixonic carte blanche. But if you're going to contend that the matchmaker or anything else is "rigged," which implies deceptive intent, you'll either need to provide some kind of evidence to back up your claim, or perhaps reluctantly be consigned to the roster of windbags who similarly are unimpeded by reason in their bloviation. Oh, and welcome to the Forum.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 25, 2017 11:05:30 GMT -5
.... .... This company is using unethical psychological tools (which will lead to its demise - I'm a chartered psychologist and used to be a member of the British psychological society) in order to induce addiction then blackmail you into paying so as to feel moderately competent. Lets don't kid ourselves, this game is for idiots, not rocket science by any means, the bots are modeled after the "stone, scissors, paper" game. Every weapon and bot has its "andidote". As soon as the player realises that it's all about beacons and time, the only thing to make you "a good player" is to have high level durable bots and 5 bot slots. That's the summary of the whole game. Welcome to the forums and the game, Idiot Chartered Psychologist. Hey, that's a decent rapper nick. Icy-P.
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Post by amidf on Sept 25, 2017 11:20:01 GMT -5
I was going to be a Chartered Accountant. But I got into lion taming instead.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 25, 2017 11:24:23 GMT -5
I'm fixing to get Chartered...
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Post by hurtbot on Sept 25, 2017 12:24:51 GMT -5
The farthest you can go and still hope to be accurate is to say that the matchmaker is "stacked" against you, because that's the design. To say that it is "rigged" or "fixed" is to stretch those words to fit. "Stacked against you" my foot...why do you have to sugarcoat something that's beyond doubt an unethical practice? Chest rewards is also a RIGGED model/algorithm so as to "push" players into paying for keys (or play continuously to amass more than a 1000 keys to have a remote chance of getting something of any worth). It's all rigged to bring players that don't want to pay a cent for the game, to despair and leave the game. This company is using unethical psychological tools (which will lead to its demise - I'm a chartered psychologist and used to be a member of the British psychological society) in order to induce addiction then blackmail you into paying so as to feel moderately competent. Lets don't kid ourselves, this game is for idiots, not rocket science by any means, the bots are modeled after the "stone, scissors, paper" game. Every weapon and bot has its "andidote". As soon as the player realises that it's all about beacons and time, the only thing to make you "a good player" is to have high level durable bots and 5 bot slots. That's the summary of the whole game. Pin it somewhere for all the current victimised kids (and future ones) to see. An unpleasant waste of time. P.S. I doubt that you'll pin it moderator because you are possibly part of the problem, maybe you are an employee of this company or you have some other kind of related interest. You are possibly going to erase it from here as well. Thank you! I've been hoping we'd have a mental health professional weigh in on this. Could you speak to a few of the specific mechanics that target those with certain mental illnesses?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 20:58:54 GMT -5
And the sooner you accept that and get used to it, the easier it becomes to play, and the happier you'll (hopefully) be. Why do I say it's rigged, because how else could I lose 20% off my win rate, AvDam, and kills per match in five days if it isn't? My lineup hasn't changed (in fact, weapons are slowly being upgraded and getting stronger). I haven't all of a sudden become a worse pilot. Our performance and/or success as pilots (until we reach 12/12 maxed hangars) will be solely dictated by the competition Pixonic's MM throws at us. And right now, Pixonic loves to bait you/me/us. The matches are "easy" for a while, until you reach the boundary of being promoted to a higher level of your league, and then BOOM! they drop the bomb. In iOS, I've progressed through to the very upper bounds of Expert I, on the threshold of Masters III when I start to lose, to the tune of ~100 league points each day. Yes, I know that playing in upper leagues should be tough, I get it. What I'd like to see is a uniform level of competition throughout a tier, even as you begin to rise and get promoted. The game shouldn't all of a sudden become nearly impossible/unwinnable at given points, but it is. I've seen some clanmates totally lose their ?poo-poo? and leave the clan (maybe even the game) over a bad day or three. Frankly, I think Pixo may be doing the game more harm than good when this happens. I know that this experience crosses platforms and leagues; it's not an isolated occurrence or experience. So, personally, I stopped giving a ?firetruck? about league points. I try my damnedest to win, capping beacons and playing a good team game, but so much of "success" in War Robots is now dictated by how close you are to the league/level boundary, who you're paired with, and against. It seems that, up to the 12/12 levels, little of the success factor is actually due to individual performance; it's all in the MM and what Pixo wants to do to you. I have bad days, and during losing streaks like this I put the game down early instead of playing a few more matches, resigned to the cliche "it is what it is". Instead of questioning my skills or hangar setup, I have to remind myself that the sudden lack of Ws and success is not my fault, and it's unavoidable. So, if you're pissed off about the game, just stop giving a ?firetruck?! Accept the situation for what it is, play your best, try your hardest, and just have fun. don't known dude! but your win rate drop come mostly from matchmaking ! if for a couple of days the player pool in your tier and under is getting too poor ,you'll be matched with upper league pilots with outpowered hangards and your win rate will start plunging down!
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Post by acdcfan on Sept 25, 2017 22:11:42 GMT -5
Pixo has said, on their facebook page, that they are promoting healthy 50% win ration. I can't find it now, but I have seen it. As soon as your ration goes up to about 64-68% you will star dropping points and percentage, below 50 where you start climbing again
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