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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 21, 2017 13:29:05 GMT -5
a few days ago my avg damage was around 460k. I was pretty happy. Today it is below 390k. Not pleased. In this span I put my Lance into service 9/10 ork/thunder. I took out a 9/10 Plasmahad and made my DB a Plasma Griff. I am in Gold III currently. My other bots are: 8/10 Plasma Griff 8/10 Orkphid Griff 10/10 Zues Carny 9/10 Plasmahad 9/10 Lance Ork/thunder
I must be doing something wrong but cant figure it out. Might be the play style with the Lance or the Plasma Griff which are the only changes to my hangar during this time.
You guys know your crap and I would love to hear your thoughts.
My winning % is pretty steady at 55-60%.
Now giving SERIOUS consideration to getting an ancile for the Lance (once my Zeus upgrade is over) and making the Griff a DB again |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 14:53:43 GMT -5
Yes you should. This should be your hangar:
Orkan Aphid Griffin
Orkan Aphid Griffin
Zeus Carnage
Plasma Galahad
Ancile Taran Lancelot
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Post by elttaes on Apr 21, 2017 15:43:46 GMT -5
How are the Lancelot and PDB Griffin doing for you? Are they reliably shredding reds, or not? I keep hearing everyone talk about how much damage the plasma Griffin does, but I have _always_ gotten better results from my DB Griffin, YMMV.
It might also be playstyle. PDB plays much differently to a Orkan Griffin, so have you changed it up, or are you falling into old habits with the new recruits? That's definitely something that gets me.
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 21, 2017 15:52:15 GMT -5
How are the Lancelot and PDB Griffin doing for you? Are they reliably shredding reds, or not? I keep hearing everyone talk about how much damage the plasma Griffin does, but I have _always_ gotten better results from my DB Griffin, YMMV. It might also be playstyle. PDB plays much differently to a Orkan Griffin, so have you changed it up, or are you falling into old habits with the new recruits? That's definitely something that gets me. Well I can't really say. I am used to ambushing with the Griff and the plasma is a whole other game. I need to be a little more careful with it. Now the Lance is pretty strong but i need to be careful. I treat it like a carny. I pick my spots and try to stay by cover. I'm used to the Galahad which is much more durable so I think that's another learning curve.[b Both will shred but if I'm out in the open then I am meat. |
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Post by moody on Apr 21, 2017 17:31:49 GMT -5
Android or iOS?
Either way you league feels a little low.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 18:40:18 GMT -5
Your hanger is fine. I don't see a big difference and a reason why your score should be significantly lower. You could keep playing and see if it evens out, or switch back to your old line up and see if it goes back up.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 22, 2017 4:04:36 GMT -5
CrownBlack,
We are same bots swap - Carnage for TT Fury.
Bots - 2x L10 + 2x L9 + L8, weapons are L10.
I have swapped out the plasma with my Lance & Griffin regularly.
I just got my Ancile yesterday & leveling, will be L7 tomorrow. Might try tomorrow, see how I'm running. I think will be effective above L9.
Looking at battles last 1.5 - 2 weeks, definitely has been more challenging / frustrating. FML, I had just leveled my 2nd Trident to L10 & somehow grazed the upgrade to L11 instead of exiting!! Something seemed to change in MM. I was running steady at top of Diamond I, then the weapon upgrade. I got knocked down to Diamond II. Since sometime last week been struggling to get back into Diamond I. I was running 55%-62%, now in 40's%.
Been really frustrating and just trying to push through!
Have played with all the variaitions from MM, along with many close battles down to the wire. Sadly, the majority have gone the other way. Really frustrating to level equipment up and then go down in the tier.
I dont have an answer!!
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Post by 2die on Apr 22, 2017 4:15:30 GMT -5
Did you move up in leauges?
Mine was around 480k in silver 3, moved to silver 2 and it's dropped down to around 280k and then got put in leavers queue from what I can only guess is because of a losing streak as I haven't left a game in over 500 games apart from when I had a phone call mid battle.
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 22, 2017 7:02:36 GMT -5
CrownBlack, We are same bots swap - Carnage for TT Fury. Bots - 2x L10 + 2x L9 + L8, weapons are L10. I have swapped out the plasma with my Lance & Griffin regularly. I just got my Ancile yesterday & leveling, will be L7 tomorrow. Might try tomorrow, see how I'm running. I think will be effective above L9. Looking at battles last 1.5 - 2 weeks, definitely has been more challenging / frustrating. FML, I had just leveled my 2nd Trident to L10 & somehow grazed the upgrade to L11 instead of exiting!! Something seemed to change in MM. I was running steady at top of Diamond I, then the weapon upgrade. I got knocked down to Diamond II. Since sometime last week been struthe ggling to get back into Diamond I. I was running 55%-62%, now in 40's%. Been really frustrating and just trying to push through! Have played with all the variaitions from MM, along with many close battles down to the wire. Sadly, the majority have gone the other way. Really frustrating to level equipment up and then go down in the tier. I dont have an answer!! Let me know how that ancile does. I have swapped my plasma on the Griff and Lance and I think the Orks work better on the Lance. I would love to put Orks back on the Griff so I'm hoping the ancile taran work for you on the Lance. |
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 22, 2017 7:05:45 GMT -5
Android or iOS? Either way you league feels a little low. I had just moved up to gold 2 last week and am knocking on the door for gold 1. Then this started a few days ago. I am on Android |
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Post by moody on Apr 22, 2017 9:29:51 GMT -5
Android or iOS? Either way you league feels a little low. I had just moved up to gold 2 last week and am knocking on the door for gold 1. Then this started a few days ago. I am on Android Reason I mentioned is that I have been back and forth between android gold 1 and diamond 3 with a 9/9 hangar. Only difference is second gal instead of plasma griff and ancil instead of thunder. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 22, 2017 11:47:23 GMT -5
CrownBlack, Have played with all the variaitions from MM, along with many close battles down to the wire. Sadly, the majority have gone the other way. Really frustrating to level equipment up and then go down in the tier. I dont have an answer!! Let me know how that ancile does. I have swapped my plasma on the Griff and Lance and I think the Orks work better on the Lance. I would love to put Orks back on the Griff so I'm hoping the ancile taran work for you on the Lance. WoW! Today has been... Epic! Had 3-4-5 win streaks today! Won 16 of 20 battles! I broke right through Diamond I and finished at 2955 cups! Challenge battles went 4/5. Win Rate is now 56% *Last battle was on the moon and tore-it-up! under the platform center. My blues brother was rocking his Ancilot ( NO ROCKET/OVERHEAD DAMAGE) . We went through bot-after-bot, a 3rd blue joined and it was done! We were slightly ahead but that just crippled them. My Ancile will be L7 tonight or tomorrow. Have a some extra coin in my pocket with todays Domination, will speed up at some point. *Will drop it on then & hit you up! |
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 22, 2017 12:09:16 GMT -5
Let me know how that ancile does. I have swapped my plasma on the Griff and Lance and I think the Orks work better on the Lance. I would love to put Orks back on the Griff so I'm hoping the ancile taran work for you on the Lance. WoW! Today has been... Epic! Had 3-4-5 win streaks today! Won 16 of 20 battles! I broke right through Diamond I and finished at 2955 cups! Challenge battles went 4/5. Win Rate is now 56% *Last battle was on the moon and tore-it-up! under the platform center. My blues brother was rocking his Ancilot ( NO ROCKET/OVERHEAD DAMAGE) . We went through bot-after-bot, a 3rd blue joined and it was done! We were slightly ahead but that just crippled them. My Ancile will be L7 tonight or tomorrow. Have a some extra coin in my pocket with todays Domination, will speed up at some point. *Will drop it on then & hit you up! All of that without the ancile? Nice Swapped out the plasma Griff and put it back on a gal. Don't like running two but it got me up to gold 1. Now depending on your luck with the ancile will determine my next move the thunder ork Lance shreds! 1 |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 22, 2017 12:42:58 GMT -5
One set up I dont change, Plasma on my Galahad. It works best for me with speed / shield / corner shoot - w constant fire from mags.
Overall I am a rocket-man, love the Orkans & Pinatas! I have the conflict of putting Orkans on my Griffins or Lancelot. The Griffins Win with out a doubt.
The downside of a Plasma Griffin vs. upside of Orkan Lancelot is not close. Plasma on a Griffin is too week for me. I run a Stuka & db Griffin. Would prefer 2 db's but the versatility of the Stuka on some maps is so effective.
My next weapons plan would be Orkans 2x, but considering the timing of the next event I plan to startt saving Au after my Ancile is operational. I will be swapping around the Orkans on the Lance too after the Ancile to see how it works. I anticipate a reduction in Ave Dam, but more effective time in battle with the Ancilot to win.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 22, 2017 19:41:04 GMT -5
Ok then... Level 7 Ancile is a paper shield in Diamond I.
Took it for a spin, 2 battles and it just gets demolished, did not get to experience any regenerative powers.
1st - mult-way battle of reds and blues around 1st corner on the Moon. When I engaged the battle I looked at my shield and it was already gone LOL!!
2nd was Shenzen - Spawned at home beacon and engaged 2 weakened bots at center beacon. I took down Galahad and I was ended by a Lancelot.
Back in the hangar it goes. Will be a little less than 2 days for level 8. Will pull it out again and see if there is a difference. I dont know if I will spend Au on speeding upgrade. It will depend on timing.
It feels like something missing without the Thunder. On 2nd battle when I saw they were weakend I was like 'Come On get em' and was I waitin for the Thunder-Punch! Then immediately I was Oh Sh1t - not there. Will take getti g use to and some finese.
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Post by moody on Apr 23, 2017 6:02:02 GMT -5
WoW! Today has been... Epic! Had 3-4-5 win streaks today! Won 16 of 20 battles! I broke right through Diamond I and finished at 2955 cups! Challenge battles went 4/5. Win Rate is now 56% *Last battle was on the moon and tore-it-up! under the platform center. My blues brother was rocking his Ancilot ( NO ROCKET/OVERHEAD DAMAGE) . We went through bot-after-bot, a 3rd blue joined and it was done! We were slightly ahead but that just crippled them. My Ancile will be L7 tonight or tomorrow. Have a some extra coin in my pocket with todays Domination, will speed up at some point. *Will drop it on then & hit you up! All of that without the ancile? Nice Swapped out the plasma Griff and put it back on a gal. Don't like running two but it got me up to gold 1. Now depending on your luck with the ancile will determine my next move the thunder ork Lance shreds! 1 Nothing wrong with two galahads. my normal hangar lately is 2 plasmahads, 1 Plasma Gareth, 1 ork ancilot and 1 Stuka griffin (one of these bots is not like the others...). Got me from gold 2 to diamond 2. i love the ancil on the lance. He really doesn't have much going for him as a bot without it. ps. I don't chase damage, I chase wins. My current average for a 9/9 hangar is woeful - under 300k. |
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 23, 2017 9:29:48 GMT -5
All of that without the ancile? Nice Swapped out the plasma Griff and put it back on a gal. Don't like running two but it got me up to gold 1. Now depending on your luck with the ancile will determine my next move the thunder ork Lance shreds! 1 Nothing wrong with two galahads. my normal hangar lately is 2 plasmahads, 1 Plasma Gareth, 1 ork ancilot and 1 Stuka griffin (one of these bots is not like the others...). Got me from gold 2 to diamond 2. i love the ancil on the lance. He really doesn't have much going for him as a bot without it. ps. I don't chase damage, I chase wins. My current average for a 9/9 hangar is woeful - under 300k. [br How do you like the ancile ork combo on the Lance? ] |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 23, 2017 10:03:33 GMT -5
Keep in mind 2 things:
1) if you go ancilot your damage WILL go down, but your win rate *should*
Go up. That's ancilot play for ya.
2) 「fluffernutter」 damage. Yes, damage gets you silver, but would you rather have a high damage rating but low win %, or the reverse? Because you get a silver bonus for winning, the choice is clear for me.
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 23, 2017 14:03:29 GMT -5
One set up I dont change, Plasma on my Galahad. It works best for me with speed / shield / corner shoot - w constant fire from mags. Overall I am a rocket-man, love the Orkans & Pinatas! I have the conflict of putting Orkans on my Griffins or Lancelot. The Griffins Win with out a doubt. The downside of a Plasma Griffin vs. upside of Orkan Lancelot is not close. Plasma on a Griffin is too week for me. I run a Stuka & db Griffin. Would prefer 2 db's but the versatility of the Stuka on some maps is so effective. My next weapons plan would be Orkans 2x, but considering the timing of the next event I plan to startt saving Au after my Ancile is operational. I will be swapping around the Orkans on the Lance too after the Ancile to see how it works. I anticipate a reduction in Ave Dam, but more effective time in battle with the Ancilot to win. Got the ancile today and won't bring it out until level 9. Move the Orks to the Griff and bench my second gal. Hoping I can win more with that line up but probably need a new clan. Mine isn't very active. Will worry about winning and moving up vs damage at this point. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 23, 2017 15:55:31 GMT -5
One set up I dont change, Plasma on my Galahad. It works best for me with speed / shield / corner shoot - w constant fire from mags. Overall I am a rocket-man, love the Orkans & Pinatas! I have the conflict of putting Orkans on my Griffins or Lancelot. The Griffins Win with out a doubt. The downside of a Plasma Griffin vs. upside of Orkan Lancelot is not close. Plasma on a Griffin is too week for me. I run a Stuka & db Griffin. Would prefer 2 db's but the versatility of the Stuka on some maps is so effective. My next weapons plan would be Orkans 2x, but considering the timing of the next event I plan to startt saving Au after my Ancile is operational. I will be swapping around the Orkans on the Lance too after the Ancile to see how it works. I anticipate a reduction in Ave Dam, but more effective time in battle with the Ancilot to win. Got the ancile today and won't bring it out until level 9. Move the Orks to the Griff and bench my second gal. Hoping I can win more with that line up but probably need a new clan. Mine isn't very active. Will worry about winning and moving up vs damage at this point. I hope it is useful at L9 as well, will be L8 Mon-Tue. I let Damage take care of itself, Winning is key and that is controlling the beacons. I like to see my Damage increase as weps levels increase but that is way secondary for me. Still running strong - just under 3100 cups & 60% War Robots. And for those wondering about the Strength of the Galahad! This pilot was awesome! Attachment DeletedGlad I was running with him! |
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Post by CrownBlack on Apr 23, 2017 19:25:12 GMT -5
Got the ancile today and won't bring it out until level 9. Move the Orks to the Griff and bench my second gal. Hoping I can win more with that line up but probably need a new clan. Mine isn't very active. Will worry about winning and moving up vs damage at this point. I hope it is useful at L9 as well, will be L8 Mon-Tue. I let Damage take care of itself, Winning is key and that is controlling the beacons. I like to see my Damage increase as weps levels increase but that is way secondary for me. Still running strong - just under 3100 cups & 60% War Robots. And for those wondering about the Strength of the Galahad! This pilot was awesome! View AttachmentGlad I was running with him! That makes me feel better after putting my gally back in . That is impressive. I should be able to have the ancile on by the weekend. Excited about it but hate giving up the thunder but the longer life will be worth it just like the gally. My win rate is back over 50 now and am hoping to make up some ground and move up this week. I'm about 50 away from diamond 3= |
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Post by moody on Apr 24, 2017 1:21:54 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with two galahads. my normal hangar lately is 2 plasmahads, 1 Plasma Gareth, 1 ork ancilot and 1 Stuka griffin (one of these bots is not like the others...). Got me from gold 2 to diamond 2. i love the ancil on the lance. He really doesn't have much going for him as a bot without it. ps. I don't chase damage, I chase wins. My current average for a 9/9 hangar is woeful - under 300k. [br How do you like the ancile ork combo on the Lance? ] It shouldn't work but it does. I have killed a lot of reds with depleated orkans. Everything about tarans say they are the right weapon with ancilot, but they don't do it for me. I run three other Brit bots with plasma and a Stuka griffin. |
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