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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 8:42:10 GMT -5
For the last two days I keep almost getting into diamond league. I'll hit the mark then need to keep 5 matches within the diamond points. The stupid MM system will throw all high diamond players, expert & master on me. Their bots obviously more buffed. Then I'm knocked down in points and the saga repeats. I'll even be on the last of the 5 matches just almost in, then lose.  |
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Post by wildboar on Apr 20, 2017 8:53:37 GMT -5
Just had the same with gold level- got to match 3 ..then a losing streak... my paranoia has kicked in ... my bots just don't seem to do the damage they are supposed to... I think I am due for a smackdown ... ho-hum - 64% now -where will I bottom out this time?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 8:54:39 GMT -5
Leavers queue seems to have almost totally randomized teams ... ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 9:04:53 GMT -5
Leavers queue seems to have almost totally randomized teams ... ;-) But im not in that..At best I have left a match during the searching for players window. But never when one starts etc. |
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Post by hi5 on Apr 20, 2017 9:31:38 GMT -5
Seeing the complete opposite but I'm iOS - just pushed into D1 and never saw anyone outside Diamond through the whole challenge and now 1/3 into D1 progression. At 66% win rate and fearing a looming smackdown but haven't seen it yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 10:51:55 GMT -5
Leavers queue seems to have almost totally randomized teams ... ;-) But im not in that..At best I have left a match during the searching for players window. But never when one starts etc. It was a recommendation. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:17:33 GMT -5
I guess im not discouraged enough for that yet. Im proud of my accomplishments if play the game straight though, even though I feel cheated sometimes by the system.
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Post by rollinfknpower on Apr 20, 2017 19:10:28 GMT -5
I'm not near the level you guys are but I notice it does run in a cycle. Maybe their way of keeping you in the league you belong. I'm silver league and one moment I'm at 65% win rate and next I'm at 35% and sometimes drop all the way to bronze 3. My damage goes up and I take gold when that cycle happens but I lose alot. Then when I win I'm mid pack. My hanger isn't great and I definitely don't want to push to gold with this hanger so I just take it for what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 10:04:47 GMT -5
I finally made it yesterday..Im noticing more Lancelots in the matches. Like sometimes 3 or 4 at once. You walk around the corner in your bot to find that many together..its like oh snap.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Apr 21, 2017 10:21:25 GMT -5
I'm not near the level you guys are but I notice it does run in a cycle. Maybe their way of keeping you in the league you belong. I'm silver league and one moment I'm at 65% win rate and next I'm at 35% and sometimes drop all the way to bronze 3. My damage goes up and I take gold when that cycle happens but I lose alot. Then when I win I'm mid pack. My hanger isn't great and I definitely don't want to push to gold with this hanger so I just take it for what it is. As your cups increase you will be thrown against other players with similar cups numbers. The problem is that if you are a good player and have a good string of Blue players with similar skills (not necessarily superior bot/weapon level loadouts) eventually you will hit the bottom of the players who are in the next league up. Again, with similar cups but perhaps better loadouts. This is where your skill will start to be offset by those loadouts and you will start to lose. I'vefound that when this happens and I see I'm up against 10/10+ levels I stop playing for a few hours. This is purely anecdotal but when I come back I am again presented with more evenly matched loadouts. I'm currently hovering around the high-end of Silver and I myself don't believe my 8/7 hanger is ready for Gold. My upward arc could be explained by more pressure of new players pushing cups into the system from below. As for hate, It's most likely doing it's programmed job by finding matches for you and the other 11 people that are challenging based on the parameters of the code. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 10:42:56 GMT -5
 Note:I am in silver 3 |
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Apr 21, 2017 11:07:17 GMT -5
Note:I am in silver 3 This is so messed up. I have no idea how this could happen. Where you the last to be added? What were the other hangers like on Red? Was this player the last to be added? Was the person in a squad? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 12:33:50 GMT -5
Note:I am in silver 3 This is so messed up. I have no idea how this could happen. Where you the last to be added? What were the other hangers like on Red? Was this player the last to be added? Was the person in a squad? No idea. I wasn't in a squad, and him neither. I think I dropped in late, but still. Most were gold 3-2 |
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Post by rollinfknpower on Apr 22, 2017 20:11:45 GMT -5
I've been looking at opponent and teammate profiles and I've seen players with 10/12 bots that are in Bronze 3 in the battles also players with weak 3 bot 6/6 hangers that are in silver 1. You don't fight against bronze league opponents if you're in Bronze league all of the time. That's the weird thing. They will put you against gold players in silver 2 if they think you are progressing too fast. Btw when I first got my lancelot I damn near warehoused it. I did better with my leo. Each bot has a learning curve. Spend a ton of money thinking you will dominate the battlefield WRONG! I did learn the Lance btw and what a killer!
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Post by Astronimus on Apr 23, 2017 15:31:32 GMT -5
Since the other day with whatever that patch was, the MM algorithm has matched me with playing much higher than me. 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 is up with that? Since the new map came in I have even been in matches with legend league players, and my hanger is about level 8/9 vs 12./12. I went from being close to 60% win rate to around 40% win rate. They need to fix this or I'm gone and will not spend another dime on this game that has always seemed to be in favor of those that spend a lot of money and then seal club the hell out of those that do not spend a lot of money on this game. Another thing Pixonic should do is make VIP worth doing. If I'm going to spend a monthly fee then I want something more than a little extra silver. 500 extra gold per month is a start and a discount on weapons and upgrade time.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Apr 23, 2017 16:15:49 GMT -5
^ you want a lot for 10 bucks, good luck with that.
When you start seeing a ton of bots above yours you have to alter your playstyle. partner with other pilots on the field, let them be a target and offer supporting fire. when playing against a level advantage mechanics and strategy become far far more important.
For me not even looking at league score increases my fun, only thing that matters to me is AG.
play how you want, but have fun.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 18:07:43 GMT -5
For me not even looking at league score increases my fun, only thing that matters to me is AG. play how you want, but have fun. Yes! Good advise. |
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Post by splitsticks on Apr 23, 2017 19:14:43 GMT -5
OP, I've been seeing the same thing and I'm tired of it too. Okay RANT TIME! I've been tracking my matches in google spreadsheets for a while now, recording average team level, win rates, league points, and even a rudimentary hangar evaluation equation, which I may expand to include bot and weapon levels for the hell of it. I want to see exactly where the ?firetruck?ing idiots who designed matchmaking ?poo-poo? the bed, and what might have been going through their empty stupid heads.
My last match is yet another example of how poorly designed the system is. Average league points match up nicely, but what the ?firetruck? do you think is going to happen with such a huge discrepancy in pilot level and win totals, pixonic? (also, apologies for the bad formatting in this table)
(Loss)______Allies__Opponents
Avg. Level__22.3____26.0
Avg. LP____1130.8__1134.3
Avg. w/l%___55.0___51.7
Total wins___665____3010.0
Hangar total_39.5___42.5
(^L/M/H=>1/1.5/2.5)
And why the ?firetruck? doesn't matchmaking weigh your Legendary Pilot gains and losses vs the strength of your opponents like every other competent game out there? Other games have already solved the matchmaking conundrum, all pixonic has to do is copy them and they can't even do that. God ?firetruck?ing damn I am really trying to like this game but it's a ?firetruck?ing challenge.
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