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Post by 7iquid on Apr 18, 2017 5:14:07 GMT -5
I think an extra game mode would work as follows:
- no league points (free play) - all vs all - chaotic carnage and demolition derby style bot-fest! - random maps - no beacons - game ends with last-bot-standing or time out - high damage wins - great for snipers and campers who will get organically phased out of ranked play - fun to test out new workshop set ups without costing league points - can test new bots - might help to reduce number of campers in league play - at spawn time their is optional 1 minute delay before weapons active. Gives bots time to find cover. - may need to remap spawn points so bots spaced evenly over field
be interested in anyone else's opinion on this....
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Post by inesb on Apr 18, 2017 9:24:19 GMT -5
Your text is very confusing, I don´t understand everything about it. Could you please explain a few points more in detail?
- no league points (free play) and how will your matchmaking work? roll a dice maybe?- all vs all - chaotic carnage and demolition derby style bot-fest! what do you mean by "all vs all"? No teams? How many players should be in a match? Two? Or twelve, like now? Or something in between? Or even more?- no beacons - game ends with last-bot-standing or time out - high damage wins There is a problem: When I have only Cossaks in my hangar, my enemy doesn´t have a chance to do high damage, because my Cossaks don´t have much health. So all I have to do is just to do more damage than I have health, and I will win.
- might help to reduce number of campers in league play I doubt that! How should that work?- fun to test out new workshop set ups without costing league points - can test new bots You already have the test server
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 18, 2017 9:47:38 GMT -5
We already have this. It's called the Leaver Queue
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 11:13:26 GMT -5
I think an extra game mode would work as follows: - no league points (free play) - all vs all - chaotic carnage and demolition derby style bot-fest! - random maps - no beacons - game ends with last-bot-standing or time out - high damage wins - great for snipers and campers who will get organically phased out of ranked play - fun to test out new workshop set ups without costing league points - can test new bots - might help to reduce number of campers in league play - at spawn time their is optional 1 minute delay before weapons active. Gives bots time to find cover. - may need to remap spawn points so bots spaced evenly over field be interested in anyone else's opinion on this.... This could be a fun game mode for sure. I do like the aspect of it not using League points, or not having beacons, but solely to be last man standing. Since the game already knows / used to know how to inspect players' hangars to find levels of bots, that is how matchmaking would work for this, I presume. Hey, I get to use that word again, "Tiers." The devs could divide levels of bots into "tiers," so that a level 6 could never face a level 4: Tier 1 - Levels 1 - 4 Tier 2 - Levels 5 - 8 Tier 3 - Levels 9 - 12 (NOTE: Tiers also takes into account the levels of weapons, and not just bots) With the intention of higher level tiers being the better bots, but not necessarily the better pilots (because this is a pay-to-win game, for sure). In terms of testing, I also agree with your sentiment, if you want a "more friendly" place to test your current weapons without wrecking your league score, then that should also be possible. There should be a more fun FFA style game mode, heck there are probably bots that would do way better in those games than in league matches. There are many things to consider with a new game mode, like a new balancing strategy as a primary example, but if balance wasn't an issue for a purely fun game mode, then this sounds pretty sweet. (immediately gets into Laser Leo...)
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Apr 18, 2017 13:33:23 GMT -5
We already have this. It's called the Leaver Queue Actually as we progress along..it will become the fun timer league. Mode for competitions will be the other selection.
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Post by 7iquid on Apr 18, 2017 13:49:20 GMT -5
Your text is very confusing, I don´t understand everything about it. Could you please explain a few points more in detail?
War Robots is a Multiplayer game with a paradox in the award system in that the winner is always the one who deals the most damage singlehandedly. I am working on this principle and that the co-op aspect of the game is played down by this match making. So I'm basing what I said on those two points. - no league points (free play) and how will your matchmaking work? roll a dice maybe?Yep. This is a random mess around bar room style beat em up. If you everyone gets a bit of silver for whatever damage done. last bot standing LBS gets bonus silver. - all vs all - chaotic carnage and demolition derby style bot-fest! what do you mean by "all vs all"? No teams? How many players should be in a match? Two? Or twelve, like now? Or something in between? Or even more?
basically no teams. Everyone spawns at seperate points. Countdown...then boom! - no beacons - game ends with last-bot-standing or time out - high damage wins There is a problem: When I have only Cossaks in my hangar, my enemy doesn´t have a chance to do high damage, because my Cossaks don´t have much health. So all I have to do is just to do more damage than I have health, and I will win.
If there were other players on teams they might try different bots and concentrate the fire on more lucrative targets - leaving your Cossacks to jump about as much as they want. - might help to reduce number of campers in league play I doubt that! How should that work?Purely hypothetical: but I think campers don't really want to play the harder style of confrontational strategic play in league. They want to sit back and fire level 12 artillery or just mess around. - fun to test out new workshop set ups without costing league points - can test new bots You already have the test serverTest server is fine when it works and I haven't been able to use my house bots on it yet - it's been ancilots and rigs with masses of free gold (and you can't take it with you) ! ultimately I only know what experience of the game. I'm gold league / diamond league 3 hangar is Gareth tar/mag 9 Galahad tar/mag/pin GI Patton 8 4xmag 9 Carny 8 thunder 7 Zeus 8 and the usual DB or med range Griffin...so everyone else may have a different perspective..
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Post by 7iquid on Apr 18, 2017 14:25:46 GMT -5
I think an extra game mode would work as follows: - no league points (free play) - all vs all - chaotic carnage and demolition derby style bot-fest! - random maps - no beacons - game ends with last-bot-standing or time out - high damage wins - great for snipers and campers who will get organically phased out of ranked play - fun to test out new workshop set ups without costing league points - can test new bots - might help to reduce number of campers in league play - at spawn time their is optional 1 minute delay before weapons active. Gives bots time to find cover. - may need to remap spawn points so bots spaced evenly over field be interested in anyone else's opinion on this.... This could be a fun game mode for sure. I do like the aspect of it not using League points, or not having beacons, but solely to be last man standing. Since the game already knows / used to know how to inspect players' hangars to find levels of bots, that is how matchmaking would work for this, I presume. Hey, I get to use that word again, "Tiers." The devs could divide levels of bots into "tiers," so that a level 6 could never face a level 4: Tier 1 - Levels 1 - 4 Tier 2 - Levels 5 - 8 Tier 3 - Levels 9 - 12 (NOTE: Tiers also takes into account the levels of weapons, and not just bots) With the intention of higher level tiers being the better bots, but not necessarily the better pilots (because this is a pay-to-win game, for sure). In terms of testing, I also agree with your sentiment, if you want a "more friendly" place to test your current weapons without wrecking your league score, then that should also be possible. There should be a more fun FFA style game mode, heck there are probably bots that would do way better in those games than in league matches. There are many things to consider with a new game mode, like a new balancing strategy as a primary example, but if balance wasn't an issue for a purely fun game mode, then this sounds pretty sweet. (immediately gets into Laser Leo...) thanks for this - I was thinking of a real free for all - you just have no idea who you will be up against. You can quit - it's last bot standing after all so if everyone quits then you win. the real point of it is to create a different atmosphere from the main game - this is all about messing around and having fun, testing things out or going nuts with your shiny new guns, you can practice with lock-auto lock, different hangar set ups, weapons, taking cover with shield bots, aiming, getting used to countdowns on different rocket set ups....I would take my Gepards out for a run...they don't cut it in my league (v bottom of diamond 3) - the Gepards are getting lazy and just sit round eating doritos all day so they need a walk in Springfield map with a frisbee....
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Post by gravediggers on Apr 19, 2017 19:36:16 GMT -5
yeah free-for-all it would be fun if we all had the same robots say a rog or a, griffin and they put some weapons hidden around the map somewhere where you had to go pick them up and use them that would be good too and the winner would get a 30 gold or a half a million silver or something and had a top-10 stats list AND a certain many times that you can spawn so you're allowed to have five robots and that's it and once they're all gone you're out
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 2:59:41 GMT -5
Be allowed to use two 5-slot hangars too
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Post by 7iquid on Apr 20, 2017 7:32:26 GMT -5
yeah free-for-all it would be fun if we all had the same robots say a rog or a, griffin and they put some weapons hidden around the map somewhere where you had to go pick them up and use them that would be good too and the winner would get a 30 gold or a half a million silver or something and had a top-10 stats list AND a certain many times that you can spawn so you're allowed to have five robots and that's it and once they're all gone you're out All sounds good. Would be a seriously fun side to War Robots - might even get pix a few bucks too (hint to Pix!)
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 20, 2017 15:23:59 GMT -5
How about this idea: unlimited respawn on any bots in your hangar. 15 minute time limit. Your score would be bots killed + beacons capped - bots lost.
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Post by 7iquid on Apr 20, 2017 17:58:07 GMT -5
How about this idea: unlimited respawn on any bots in your hangar. 15 minute time limit. Your score would be bots killed + beacons capped - bots lost. that would be great - the meta would switch constantly as bots gets swapped - might have to limit suicides tho or everyone might eject constantly as well!
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