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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 17, 2017 5:59:04 GMT -5
Should i do patton magnums or aphids?
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Post by snk on Apr 17, 2017 6:24:53 GMT -5
I will choose Aphids/Orkan Griffin over Aphids Patton, or Taran/Magnum Griffin over Magnum Patton. If you want Patton, I will choose Aphids Patton.
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Post by The VVatcher on Apr 17, 2017 8:24:34 GMT -5
Aphids
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 9:20:39 GMT -5
Aphids. Magnum Pattons were viable in the old system but not anymore.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 17, 2017 10:39:10 GMT -5
Aphid Patton, as well as Aphid Gepard, are unique because they sport so many light hardpoints exclusively. And Aphid is unique weapon with no medium or heavy version (which is a good thing, otherwise it wouldn't matter which bot you use, if every bot could have everything).
For everything else, including plasma, Griffin is better than Patton (more HP, more firepower, jump!), and Gareth is better than Gepard (faster, has shield).
Ok, Gecko variant of Patton and even Gepard are sort of viable too, but there are similar heavy weapons, and at that range speed is less important, so Leo/Carnage/Raijin/Natasha/Fury are all arguably better.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 17, 2017 15:04:10 GMT -5
Just hope Pix doesn't mess with the Aphids. Right now It is the only thing making the Patton viable.
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Post by moody on Apr 17, 2017 18:24:49 GMT -5
Just hope Pix doesn't mess with the Aphids. Right now It is the only thing making the Patton viable. What makes Vityez viable? Golem? Destrier? A lot of stuff becomes unviable the higher you go. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 17, 2017 20:39:15 GMT -5
Ok then i'll use patton aphids.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 17, 2017 22:25:58 GMT -5
Patton aphids aren't viable, people just haven't caught on yet. Still.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 22:49:23 GMT -5
They need to boost our little Patton
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Post by moody on Apr 17, 2017 23:01:56 GMT -5
Patton aphids aren't viable, people just haven't caught on yet. Still. Aphids aren't what they once were. Useful - yes, essential - no. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 18, 2017 1:47:43 GMT -5
Is the leo thunder/aphids are good? Because i only have 3 aphids.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 2:57:03 GMT -5
The Patton has to do a lot of duck and cover. Plus with the last adjustment, the trajectory arc is lower, so you clear obstacles less often. The Thunder/tri-Aphid Leo would be better.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Apr 18, 2017 7:42:37 GMT -5
Patton aphids aren't viable, people just haven't caught on yet. Still. Rocking them in Diamond 3 iOS - helped boost my average by 100 grand (running 8/9/7/7/7). Makes a nice change up to play Ive become addicted |
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Post by sharpmango on Apr 18, 2017 7:52:16 GMT -5
Genuine question: Why would you spend 3000 gold on a ~300k bot? Why not go for a gold bot? Just curious here.
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Post by moody on Apr 18, 2017 8:19:02 GMT -5
Genuine question: Why would you spend 3000 gold on a ~300k bot? Why not go for a gold bot? Just curious here. Only bot that can rock 4 light weapons. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 18, 2017 8:38:18 GMT -5
Aphids in the right hands, are still deadly. A Patton driven as an Aphid Close Support bot, can still wreak hella damage. Up top... maybe not, but I can remember recent games in Android Gold where they did very well. If someone pulls one out when least expected... it can be VERY effective as a flanker and if protected by an Ancilelot or something else as defensively minded.
One thing to keep in mind when telling of viability... for most of us... top tier is a long way away, and some of us may never make it. At the 8-10 weapon and bot range, it is still a pretty varied battlefield in terms of bots and weapons. I can load up just about anything and have some good games with it as long as MM is matched decently and no Tankers are in the mix, or so it has seemed lately. Now, I don't mean frankenbots, but any decent setup... meta or not.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Apr 18, 2017 8:41:56 GMT -5
Aphids in the right hands, are still deadly. A Patton driven as an Aphid Close Support bot, can still wreak hella damage. Up top... maybe not, but I can remember recent games in Android Gold where they did very well. If someone pulls one out when least expected... it can be VERY effective as a flanker and if protected by an Ancilelot or something else as defensively minded. One thing to keep in mind when telling of viability... for most of us... top tier is a long way away, and some of us may never make it. At the 8-10 weapon and bot range, it is still a pretty varied battlefield in terms of bots and weapons. I can load up just about anything and have some good games with it as long as MM is matched decently and no Tankers are in the mix, or so it has seemed lately. Now, I don't mean frankenbots, but any decent setup... meta or not. My sentiments indeed. I'm running 9/8 hanger and finding its a lot of fun. Particularly on Yama on the ramp and side ramp cover. As you say I'm a long way off TT. The Aphids can always be used on a Griff. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 18, 2017 10:00:15 GMT -5
Aphids in the right hands, are still deadly. A Patton driven as an Aphid Close Support bot, can still wreak hella damage. Up top... maybe not, but I can remember recent games in Android Gold where they did very well. If someone pulls one out when least expected... it can be VERY effective as a flanker and if protected by an Ancilelot or something else as defensively minded. One thing to keep in mind when telling of viability... for most of us... top tier is a long way away, and some of us may never make it. At the 8-10 weapon and bot range, it is still a pretty varied battlefield in terms of bots and weapons. I can load up just about anything and have some good games with it as long as MM is matched decently and no Tankers are in the mix, or so it has seemed lately. Now, I don't mean frankenbots, but any decent setup... meta or not. My sentiments indeed. I'm running 9/8 hanger and finding its a lot of fun. Particularly on Yama on the ramp and side ramp cover. As you say I'm a long way off TT. The Aphids can always be used on a Griff. Also... In my mind, squad play and solo play are different. In squad play, if there are people running complementary bots and setups, options become a lot more varied. A team of not so good solo bots can suddenly become a ?female dog? to kill. The Raijin dbl ancile + Raijin dbl thunder combo is one that I could see ruling the moon map in center for a while if their team can effectively shut down one side of the tunnel... For example. Same with side beacons and a carny thunder and aphid Gep or Patton... Or any number of good combos. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 18, 2017 10:19:19 GMT -5
Genuine question: Why would you spend 3000 gold on a ~300k bot? Why not go for a gold bot? Just curious here. Only bot that can rock 4 light weapons. The Jesse can do that. But the Jesse is stupid rare. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 18, 2017 10:22:38 GMT -5
Aphids in the right hands, are still deadly. A Patton driven as an Aphid Close Support bot, can still wreak hella damage. Up top... maybe not, but I can remember recent games in Android Gold where they did very well. If someone pulls one out when least expected... it can be VERY effective as a flanker and if protected by an Ancilelot or something else as defensively minded. One thing to keep in mind when telling of viability... for most of us... top tier is a long way away, and some of us may never make it. At the 8-10 weapon and bot range, it is still a pretty varied battlefield in terms of bots and weapons. I can load up just about anything and have some good games with it as long as MM is matched decently and no Tankers are in the mix, or so it has seemed lately. Now, I don't mean frankenbots, but any decent setup... meta or not. I've noticed a lot of brit bot pilots don't know how to deal with aphids and are getting smoked by them. You have to spot the aphid fire and back away with the shield up on a Galahad so the shield will take the damage otherwise some missiles will strike you. For the Gary you have to move laterally. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 18, 2017 11:00:18 GMT -5
Aphids in the right hands, are still deadly. A Patton driven as an Aphid Close Support bot, can still wreak hella damage. Up top... maybe not, but I can remember recent games in Android Gold where they did very well. If someone pulls one out when least expected... it can be VERY effective as a flanker and if protected by an Ancilelot or something else as defensively minded. One thing to keep in mind when telling of viability... for most of us... top tier is a long way away, and some of us may never make it. At the 8-10 weapon and bot range, it is still a pretty varied battlefield in terms of bots and weapons. I can load up just about anything and have some good games with it as long as MM is matched decently and no Tankers are in the mix, or so it has seemed lately. Now, I don't mean frankenbots, but any decent setup... meta or not. I've noticed a lot of brit bot pilots don't know how to deal with aphids and are getting smoked by them. You have to spot the aphid fire and back away with the shield up on a Galahad so the shield will take the damage otherwise some missiles will strike you. For the Gary you have to move laterally. Gary can do it shield to the front... Gala can do it laterally too, with the shield to the side preferably, but still point the shield at them just to be sure, but yeah I sidestep them all the time... might have to be level 8 or 9 to do so, in a Gala, though, IDK. Now, Lance, that one you deffo back up and face the incoming missiles. Otherwise they hit mostly on top where there is no shield but almost a small airfield's worth of surface area for those Aphids to hit... But if you back up it is more likely that they will hit the front shield. But, if the Aphid pilot is both lucky and skilled, they can lead to a small degree and even hit laterally moving targets... but it is not an easy task to master. Aphid Jesse is the best bot for that as you can change the angles you are firing from a LOT quicker. It really is a fun Aphid bot if you can keep him alive. I run 1 of my 2 that I won occasionally and it is a blast when it works. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 18, 2017 15:39:31 GMT -5
Patton aphids aren't viable, people just haven't caught on yet. Still. Aphids aren't what they once were. Useful - yes, essential - no. Dual aphids are fine on griffins. Quad aphids on a patton are garbage. It's the patton that sucks now. |
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Post by piginapoke on Apr 19, 2017 7:15:46 GMT -5
Talking of Aphids; Didn't someone on this forum once allege that a heavy version of the aphids was planned or was being worked on or was being considered and pondered and contemplated? That would be nice; 8 missiles each with the damage and splash of a trident. I wonder what would happen when they misfire....
Anyway, where were we? Ah! Patton with Aphids? I have been done in by those on a couple of times and even at level 8 they can cause serious headaches but it seems that on higher levels they can be deadly (level 9 and up) But make sure that you can run back for cover to reload because if you are caught out in the open after you unload your missles, you might find yourself piloting a ball of smouldering scrap. I have only seen a patton armed with 4 magnums a couple of times - someone must like them.
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