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Post by garunixreborn on Apr 16, 2017 5:56:14 GMT -5
I just started playing this game a couple weeks ago and now I am in the bronze league, moving up to silver. What would be the best choice for my first WPS bot?
P.S, I don't have any WPS weapons right now
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Post by bahogilok on Apr 16, 2017 6:34:51 GMT -5
Get WSP weapons first. Best would probably be two tarans and magnums so you can make a plasma griffin
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Post by snk on Apr 16, 2017 6:35:32 GMT -5
Buy Taran and Magnum first, they are very powerful now until the top leagues, you can start the upgrade for them. Thunder/Taran Boa or Taran/Magnum Griffin is a good start. Bots won't help you as much as weapon if your bots doesn't have weapons like Taran and Magnum.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Apr 16, 2017 6:37:26 GMT -5
Tarans before all. A thunder Taran boa is a bot youll male some silver with. Eventually youll want to get a carnage, but not before a lot of tarans, magnums, and probably tridents.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 16, 2017 10:04:51 GMT -5
Get tarans and magnums for Griffin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 10:32:27 GMT -5
Don't listen to everyone blabbing about weapons. Get a carnage first. It's the only WSP bot perfectly suited for silver weapons ( two thunders). So it's basically ready to go after a few upgrades. First gold purchase should be an Orkan which you can stick on a thunder Boa.
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Post by mechtout on Apr 16, 2017 10:39:40 GMT -5
get 4 tarans and 4 boas, you'll be making silver after that.
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Post by GreenFace on Apr 16, 2017 10:49:19 GMT -5
Need bot? Take Carnage. Need weapon? Take 2 magnums.
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Apr 16, 2017 11:04:33 GMT -5
Absolutely tarans and mags for a plasma griff. snk has it right. A rhino or fujin or stalker with silver weapons is nowhere near as effective as a griff or boa with wsp weapons. And you can basically get 2 tarans and a mag for about the same cost as a single carnage. Gimme those 3 weapons on a griff plus whatever vs a thunder carnage and I'll come out on top 7 out of 10 times.
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Post by Deadalready on Apr 16, 2017 11:16:08 GMT -5
I think it's ironic that plasma weapons like the magnum and taran will rip apart a carnage/stalker/fujin
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 11:52:38 GMT -5
Absolutely tarans and mags for a plasma griff. snk has it right. A rhino or fujin or stalker with silver weapons is nowhere near as effective as a griff or boa with wsp weapons. And you can basically get 2 tarans and a mag for about the same cost as a single carnage. Gimme those 3 weapons on a griff plus whatever vs a thunder carnage and I'll come out on top 7 out of 10 times. Two Tarans and a mag are 15,050 WSP whereas a Carnage is 13,000. For a full plasma griff its 18,800 WSP plus 1.7 million silver for the griff. A carnage with 2 thunders is a complete package, ready to go and it is particularly devastating in low / mid leagues. The fact that you are able to effectively use a plasma rig against an energy shield bot is hardly impressive. On average I can do just as much, if not more damage with a thunder carn as a plasma griff.
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Post by 0ppressor on Apr 16, 2017 12:03:03 GMT -5
Need bot? Take Carnage. Need weapon? Take 2 [Tarans]. Nearly seconded.
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Post by bahogilok on Apr 16, 2017 12:29:09 GMT -5
Absolutely tarans and mags for a plasma griff. snk has it right. A rhino or fujin or stalker with silver weapons is nowhere near as effective as a griff or boa with wsp weapons. And you can basically get 2 tarans and a mag for about the same cost as a single carnage. Gimme those 3 weapons on a griff plus whatever vs a thunder carnage and I'll come out on top 7 out of 10 times. Two Tarans and a mag are 15,050 WSP whereas a Carnage is 13,000. For a full plasma griff its 18,800 WSP plus 1.7 million silver for the griff. A carnage with 2 thunders is a complete package, ready to go and it is particularly devastating in low / mid leagues. The fact that you are able to effectively use a plasma rig against an energy shield bot is hardly impressive. On average I can do just as much, if not more damage with a thunder carn as a plasma griff. True, but a plasma griffin's performance is more reliable. A thunder carnage is very strong (I agree with you there), but the nature of having to go in close to do any appreciable damage makes it more prone to dying, and that alone makes it a poor choice for a first WSP purchase since it will be your strongest bot for a long while.
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Post by lotfh on Apr 16, 2017 12:41:10 GMT -5
Carnage thunder is a great bot but needs more patience. A taran grif is a great start for leveling to higher tiers get weapons first then the carnage
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Apr 16, 2017 15:39:35 GMT -5
Absolutely tarans and mags for a plasma griff. snk has it right. A rhino or fujin or stalker with silver weapons is nowhere near as effective as a griff or boa with wsp weapons. And you can basically get 2 tarans and a mag for about the same cost as a single carnage. Gimme those 3 weapons on a griff plus whatever vs a thunder carnage and I'll come out on top 7 out of 10 times. Two Tarans and a mag are 15,050 WSP whereas a Carnage is 13,000. For a full plasma griff its 18,800 WSP plus 1.7 million silver for the griff. A carnage with 2 thunders is a complete package, ready to go and it is particularly devastating in low / mid leagues. The fact that you are able to effectively use a plasma rig against an energy shield bot is hardly impressive. On average I can do just as much, if not more damage with a thunder carn as a plasma griff. Right, so the math is close on the wsp, but not the silver. And I'm not saying a thunder carny can't be effective - I actually run one about 50% of the time. But it is a hit or miss build - at low levels the carny is such a glass cannon that you either do really well with it or you get worked quickly by plasma. If I were going for a first purchase at lower levels where shield bots aren't prevalent yet I'd rather have a bot setup that will always deliver solid results.
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Post by 3castle on Apr 16, 2017 15:42:55 GMT -5
get carnage
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Post by garunixreborn on Apr 16, 2017 16:51:31 GMT -5
My lineup right now is a zenit/norcium natasha, a pin/kang dae leo and a punisher/thunder golem. I have a boa in my inventory too.
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Post by infraviolet on Apr 16, 2017 19:06:56 GMT -5
I ended up getting a Carnage as my first. But I'd definitely stock up on Plasmas (Mags & Tarans) for your other bots first, if you prefer knife fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:30:29 GMT -5
I ended up getting a Carnage as my first. But I'd definitely stock up on Plasmas (Mags & Tarans) for your other bots first, if you prefer knife fighting. Carnage is knife fighting. It's as knife fighting as you can get. But based on the hangar he just described, knife fighting doesn't sound like a priority of his.
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Post by blognio on Apr 16, 2017 19:49:18 GMT -5
I got fujin first, and I loved it
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Post by infraviolet on Apr 16, 2017 21:41:21 GMT -5
I ended up getting a Carnage as my first. But I'd definitely stock up on Plasmas (Mags & Tarans) for your other bots first, if you prefer knife fighting. Carnage is knife fighting. It's as knife fighting as you can get. But based on the hangar he just described, knife fighting doesn't sound like a priority of his. Thunder Carnage is knifer for sure. But a Zeus Carny is a little different ball game.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 17, 2017 6:40:15 GMT -5
Carnage is the top WSP bot. 2 Thunders until you can get 2 Zeus. At that point you may want a 2nd Carnage so you can run both
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Post by miscanthus on Apr 17, 2017 8:30:50 GMT -5
Carnage thunder is a great bot but needs more patience. A taran grif is a great start for leveling to higher tiers get weapons first then the carnage It took me more time than I'd like to admit to figure out how to run a Thunder Carange. I shelved it many times in frustration. Eventually, I leveled both the bot and weapons to 9/10. Now it's one of my go to bots and has a secure spot in my hangar. I'd recommend buying a couple tarans and running two boas. Level up the thunders for a future Carnage. The extra gun leveling makes a big difference.
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Post by ronin on Apr 17, 2017 9:50:39 GMT -5
Weapons first. When you are around lvl 7-8 in medium bots (and start to buy heavy bots) buy Rhino, level it up for lvl 6+ and learn to use it. After that Carnage (around lvl 9 it is quite good) Fujin is "nice to have" but first get your 5 hangar slots and WSP weapons you need.
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