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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 28, 2024 11:03:56 GMT -5
Commanders,
Right now we are hard at work ensuring that the integration of Denuvo Anti-Cheat works smoothly and doesn’t affect the performance of the PC build like we mentioned last week, but this week’s post will be about something else. There is a huge new feature coming to the Test Server tomorrow and we’d like to give you a detailed heads-up.
ROBOT SPECIALIZATIONS
A feature codenamed Specializations will replace Passive Modules on both robots and titans by the end of this year. The current passive modules will be gone from the game and instead most robots and titans will get a new way of passively increasing their stats. Here is what a Specializations menu will look like for one of the Tier 4 robots:
All higher tier robots will have four specializations to upgrade. You must complete the basic one first, which unlocks the active module slot. As soon as that spec is maxed out, you are free to choose between three advanced specs. Eventually, you will be able to complete all three of them and permanently receive their passive bonuses for that robot.
However, it’s those two big slots with module pictures where it gets interesting. These are the new passive modules and they only boost your robot if you activate their respective specialization. You will be able to switch between specializations instantly and free of charge.
Summing up, a T4 robot has these specializations:
Basic (always selected)
Offense (selectable)
Defense (selectable)
Class (selectable)
There is one passive module slot included in the basic spec and two of them in each of the selectable specs. Each of these slots offers you a choice between two different passive modules. Once you unlock the slot, you can switch between its modules instantly and free of charge. What’s even better is that you don’t need to upgrade individual modules. A fully upgraded specialization will provide maxed stats for all the modules it includes.
Some of the options will resemble the pre-rework modules, but their stats will be different. Say, you want to upgrade a certain tailed robot that happens to belong to the Saboteur class. You don’t want to play it safe, so you ignore the Durability spec. You also find the module selection in the Damage spec somewhat bland. So you go for Class and get presented with two choices:
A module that speeds up beacon capture VS a module that boosts movement speed
A variation of the familiar Overdrive Unit VS a new version of the Cloaking Unit
Other classes like Brawler or Support will have their own options to choose from, and the conservative Damage and Durability specializations will feature a couple mechanics that you haven’t seen before. If you want to find out about them ahead of the release, be sure to visit our Test Server during weekends. There are also rewards for doing so.
MORE ON TITANS
We’d like to keep the Titan meta somewhat simpler than that of ordinary robots. Titans are ultimate weapons that turn the tide of battle either by knocking out multiple targets or by soaking up immense amounts of damage buying time for their team. As a result, Titan specializations will be less diverse. They will include Damage and Durability just as in case with robots, but there will be only two Classes: Brawler and Damage Dealer (instead of around five classes for robots).
MORE ON LOWER TIERS
The main role of lower tier items is to help newer players learn the ropes before they start moving up the league ladder. We want to keep builds simple at the initial stages of the game and reduce the possibility of poor choices for aspiring Commanders. So beginner robots will either have limited specializations or won’t have them at all:
T1 robots: no specializations (and no active modules)
T2 robots: only the basic specialization
T1, T2 Titans: only the basic specialization
A COUPLE MORE THINGS
Specialization upgrades will be available via a new currency. It is this currency that you will receive as a compensation for your passive modules once they disappear from the game. With this compensation, we will transfer roughly the same amount of module power from the old system to the new one.
We are still hammering out the details of this rework and none of the stats you will see on the Test Server are final. Our goal is to find a balance between customization depth and well… in-game balance. We hope that with Specializations in place, problematic builds like the latter TRA combo will become a much rarer occurrence.
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 28, 2024 11:14:36 GMT -5
This is effectively forcing you to use T3/T4 titans if you want to use anything but armor/damage. Have you been using Arthur with the auto-fix or speed up modules? Too bad, you won't be able to do that any more.
And their justification for doing all this with titans? TRA (titan repair advanced.) Either they introduced TRA deliberately so people would clamor for a fixor they're just idiots for not working through how people would use them.
The goal of in-game balance is not realised by making lower tier robots less customizable.
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 28, 2024 14:33:57 GMT -5
It’s ok, let pix kill itself off slowly if it wants. This game is beyond fixing. Not sure a complete reset would even help at this point
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Sept 29, 2024 0:28:14 GMT -5
I need to get off my 「bum-bum」 and sell every passive I can for silver before this hits so Iâm not stuck with a 「dookie」ton of whatever the 「fluffernutter」 they are going to call the module currency, because I sure as 「dookie」 am not leveling anything up after it hits.
The Lokiâs will just get to run free I guess. No more Quantum Radar from me.
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 29, 2024 10:07:05 GMT -5
I need to get off my ãbum-bumã and sell every passive I can for silver before this hits so IâÂÂm not stuck with a ãdookieãton of whatever the ãfluffernutterã they are going to call the module currency, because I sure as ãdookieã am not leveling anything up after it hits.
I was actually just wondering the opposite:
* is it worth leveling up or buying new passive modules because that'll be the best way to get a good start with currency in the new system?
the kicker here being that you need to go level 3 on your first basic module before being able to open up the other slots. Yes, that's just one of the nerfs to the module system that are there to 「fluffernutter」 over the F2P folks because you need to do that on every 'bot.
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 29, 2024 16:14:28 GMT -5
I need to get off my ãbum-bumã and sell every passive I can for silver before this hits so IâÂÂm not stuck with a ãdookieãton of whatever the ãfluffernutterã they are going to call the module currency, because I sure as ãdookieã am not leveling anything up after it hits.
I was actually just wondering the opposite:
* is it worth leveling up or buying new passive modules because that'll be the best way to get a good start with currency in the new system?
the kicker here being that you need to go level 3 on your first basic module before being able to open up the other slots. Yes, that's just one of the nerfs to the module system that are there to 「fluffernutter」 over the F2P folks because you need to do that on every 'bot.
if you decide to sell like gus169 said, it isnt a bad idea NOW. Most likely like everything else you will get silver for a sale after the new rework, at a much lower rate as usual. Silver is the default sale currency, so I highly doubt they would allow the new mod currency as compensation. This is pix remember, they will shaft you one way or another. They get theirs. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 29, 2024 17:29:29 GMT -5
I was actually just wondering the opposite:
* is it worth leveling up or buying new passive modules because that'll be the best way to get a good start with currency in the new system?
the kicker here being that you need to go level 3 on your first basic module before being able to open up the other slots. Yes, that's just one of the nerfs to the module system that are there to ãfluffernutterã over the F2P folks because you need to do that on every 'bot.
if you decide to sell like gus169 said, it isnt a bad idea NOW. Most likely like everything else you will get silver for a sale after the new rework, at a much lower rate as usual. Silver is the default sale currency, so I highly doubt they would allow the new mod currency as compensation. This is pix remember, they will shaft you one way or another. They get theirs.
In the drone rework, players were compensated with the things used to buy drones now, so there is precedent of them crediting players with non-silver.
So (a) I think gus169 is wrong - I don't think we'll get silver , we'll get some amount of new currency thus (b) how can I spend silver/gold now to get more of the new currency used for upgrades/modules later, even if it results in extra stuff I don't need now?
The big "「fluffernutter」 you" is that players will no longer be able to move modules from an old robot that is no longer used, to the new robot.
Just wait for pilots 3.0, where they "fix" pilots and pilots are assigned to robots for life (which they more or less are now anyway.)
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Post by T34 on Sept 29, 2024 17:38:57 GMT -5
I need to get off my ãbum-bumã and sell every passive I can for silver before this hits so IâÂÂm not stuck with a ãdookieãton of whatever the ãfluffernutterã they are going to call the module currency, because I sure as ãdookieã am not leveling anything up after it hits.
I was actually just wondering the opposite:
* is it worth leveling up or buying new passive modules because that'll be the best way to get a good start with currency in the new system?
the kicker here being that you need to go level 3 on your first basic module before being able to open up the other slots. Yes, that's just one of the nerfs to the module system that are there to 「fluffernutter」 over the F2P folks because you need to do that on every 'bot.
I think upgrading/buying may not be a bad idea. At least you will get some of the new currency probably at a not so favourable conversion rate and thus avoid the need to buy the new currency to some extent. the new currency is likely to be priced very high at the start to milk the whales. Once the whales have bought up what they need, the price of the new currency will gradually fall. Same as memorium. i think Pix may offer a reasonable compensation since as soon as a new robot is introduced, you will have to rebuy everything over again. Again, just like with memorium.. Haven’t decided yet, but I am likely to hedge my bet and level some modules by using up a portion of my saved up silver. Silver will become less valuable with the introduction of the new currency hence the reason to stock pile it is marginally reduced. could be totally wrong tho if the compensation rates are awful. |
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Post by gus169 on Sept 29, 2024 20:20:26 GMT -5
It was Crimmins talking about selling modules, and he wasn't wrong because he doesn't generally use them and has no intention of doing so. If he converts them to silver now, at the current rate, he'll probably come out of it better, with a resource he has a use for.
I couldn't care less. I use them, but I haven't spent much on them, so I'm not getting shafted. I just see this as another levelling event.
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Post by pwn☆broker on Sept 29, 2024 21:18:46 GMT -5
It could go this way, or that way… some will save all future modules (me) and maybe even level some up in the interim play-time, hoping to get a bigger payout from the piss-poor conversion. And it’s going to be an abysmal conversion rate, no doubt about it (see Drones). Others will sell every module they can (some too early, a few right on time) to maximize a more useful resources for their current & future gaming goals. All in all, change is coming… and it won’t stop anytime soon!
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 30, 2024 13:36:21 GMT -5
It was Crimmins talking about selling modules, and he wasn't wrong because he doesn't generally use them and has no intention of doing so. If he converts them to silver now, at the current rate, he'll probably come out of it better, with a resource he has a use for. I couldn't care less. I use them, but I haven't spent much on them, so I'm not getting shafted. I just see this as another levelling event. i am speshul Gus, i dids not sees it was crimmi crimms that posteded bouts the seling. But he isnt wrong. It really depends on how you want to play. Since I am all spiders, just like crimmins is bare bones, it is all going to be bad regardless. Pix wont do something for benefit of the masses. It feeds the whales, to line their pockets. seems every rework is getting us closer to the doomsday clock in this game. we are all so numb to it that when the lights do go out, we may breathe a sigh of relief. |
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Post by 0megaman on Sept 30, 2024 19:27:17 GMT -5
My Son saw some of this stuff mentioned on Discord, I asked him why he cared as he really doesnt play much any more, and he said its 'just sad', and that its a shame that his Murometz and Kitsune Harpy module setups are going to be nerf'd into the ground. I havent really kept up myself, but his current setup on the Murometz is still pretty effective against all but the most max'd meta Titans that occasionally appear in Expert and Master leagues.
I'll be curious to see how badly that Murometz is affected by the upcoming module theft.
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Post by gus169 on Sept 30, 2024 22:42:14 GMT -5
It was Crimmins talking about selling modules, and he wasn't wrong because he doesn't generally use them and has no intention of doing so. If he converts them to silver now, at the current rate, he'll probably come out of it better, with a resource he has a use for. I couldn't care less. I use them, but I haven't spent much on them, so I'm not getting shafted. I just see this as another levelling event. i am speshul Gus, i dids not sees it was crimmi crimms that posteded bouts the seling. But he isnt wrong. It really depends on how you want to play. Since I am all spiders, just like crimmins is bare bones, it is all going to be bad regardless. Pix wont do something for benefit of the masses. It feeds the whales, to line their pockets. seems every rework is getting us closer to the doomsday clock in this game. we are all so numb to it that when the lights do go out, we may breathe a sigh of relief. No worries munkeeee |
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Post by tabbylion on Oct 1, 2024 7:36:45 GMT -5
I was actually just wondering the opposite:
* is it worth leveling up or buying new passive modules because that'll be the best way to get a good start with currency in the new system?
the kicker here being that you need to go level 3 on your first basic module before being able to open up the other slots. Yes, that's just one of the nerfs to the module system that are there to 「fluffernutter」 over the F2P folks because you need to do that on every 'bot.
I think upgrading/buying may not be a bad idea. At least you will get some of the new currency probably at a not so favourable conversion rate and thus avoid the need to buy the new currency to some extent. the new currency is likely to be priced very high at the start to milk the whales. Once the whales have bought up what they need, the price of the new currency will gradually fall. Same as memorium. i think Pix may offer a reasonable compensation since as soon as a new robot is introduced, you will have to rebuy everything over again. Again, just like with memorium.. Haven’t decided yet, but I am likely to hedge my bet and level some modules by using up a portion of my saved up silver. Silver will become less valuable with the introduction of the new currency hence the reason to stock pile it is marginally reduced. could be totally wrong tho if the compensation rates are awful. You can only be wrong if they offer zero compensation! It will be based on the module tier and level just like the drone rework. Hence, the more grindable rss you spend now = more rss that’s hard to obtain! Currently, we only get a trickle of the drone chips so even if rate is bad it will still be more valuable than the silver cost (and gold for speed up) which is easy to grind. |
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Post by munkeeee on Oct 2, 2024 18:01:21 GMT -5
Said F it, went ahead and sold TONS of stuff, mods mostly, and pilots. Titan mods, bot mods, and pilots netted me 205 million silver. Yes I had that many stockpiled, and still can kit out my 5 hangars with the exact same stuff and have leftovers.
Just have a funny feeling this rebalance mod work thing is going to reset tragically and will drive down us f2p folk out of playing or wanting to play more than any other rework. Just my two cents.
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Post by gus169 on Oct 2, 2024 19:41:40 GMT -5
and when the servers shut down, we'll all wake up, sweaty and discombobulated, only half remembering it all, like a feverish cheese-dream. hazy visions of unending conflict and betrayal, viewed from a carousel horse, and a lingering feeling that something is just under the floor, about to explode - but still unclear. was it a good dream? or a nightmare?
then we'll turn on the news
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Post by pwn☆broker on Oct 3, 2024 0:24:19 GMT -5
and when the servers shut down, we'll all wake up, sweaty and discombobulated, only half remembering it all, like a feverish cheese-dream. hazy visions of unending conflict and betrayal, viewed from a carousel horse, and a lingering feeling that something is just under the floor, about to explode - but still unclear. was it a good dream? or a nightmare? then we'll turn on the news How I felt after stumbling upon the broadcast TV show, FIREFLY mid-season… it was all so good, I was hooked, and then it was gone. I missed my “fix” so much so that the follow-up movie, IHMO, fell short of my needs. At least I have the DVDs, and can reminisce of my browcoat days every once in a while. Walking War Robots has screenshots and YouTube I guess, so there that. -sad- PS. Turn off the TV news. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Oct 3, 2024 4:36:56 GMT -5
Said F it, went ahead and sold TONS of stuff, mods mostly, and pilots. Titan mods, bot mods, and pilots netted me 205 million silver. Yes I had that many stockpiled, and still can kit out my 5 hangars with the exact same stuff and have leftovers. Just have a funny feeling this rebalance mod work thing is going to reset tragically and will drive down us f2p folk out of playing or wanting to play more than any other rework. Just my two cents.
Look, if I was paying to play, I think this would also piss me off because it is now going to cost me more money each time a new robot comes out.
I think it is going to kill off a lot of people who have been playing for "a while." well I wish it would but probably won't.
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