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Post by killmenow on Aug 27, 2024 7:57:37 GMT -5
If this goes ahead this will be the last straw for me and I suspect a lot of players. If you can’t customise a bot to your liking a little or have a (misplaced?) sense of retaining/ transferring value somehow then there are plenty of alternative shooter games that are just as limited, so why pay Pix a premium? And people are just tired of being screwed by Pix. The fact that I’m now in Legend League, despite not running the latest bots or paying that much shows just how many players, particularly P2win have left already. The game has been severely dumbed down already, and is in real danger of being just another shooter game. I can get that free elsewhere.
As an FYI, when I (and many others) started playing there were no modules. But that was before the age of "latest meta". When all that you've got is T1 and T2 robots & weapons, you can have very challenging games and not really miss modules/pilots.
But once they started with the T3 abilities, modules were required. Other robots need capability to counter the native ability of the oppposing robot. That was, however, before pilots.
As I've said before, War Robots is now an advertising platform where the owners make more money from ads than they do p2win.
the thing that bugs me a lot of the time is the one shot factor , it takes a second to kill a bot then there's the direct opposite where a bot simply cannot be killed ....there no duration battles ...way back when .....you had to fight it out and burn enemies down bit by bit ACTUAL BATTLES. |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Aug 27, 2024 8:02:55 GMT -5
This sounds like it's going to put a real knifing into 6 Pack.
Uuuuuuugh.
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Post by gus169 on Aug 27, 2024 8:23:33 GMT -5
This sounds like it's going to put a real knifing into 6 Pack. Uuuuuuugh. this too shall pass my friend |
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Post by dinnerplain on Aug 27, 2024 11:39:37 GMT -5
As an FYI, when I (and many others) started playing there were no modules. But that was before the age of "latest meta". When all that you've got is T1 and T2 robots & weapons, you can have very challenging games and not really miss modules/pilots.
But once they started with the T3 abilities, modules were required. Other robots need capability to counter the native ability of the oppposing robot. That was, however, before pilots.
As I've said before, War Robots is now an advertising platform where the owners make more money from ads than they do p2win.
Thanks Grandad.
Yes, I can't stop children from logging on to this forum!
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Post by dinnerplain on Aug 27, 2024 11:50:12 GMT -5
As an FYI, when I (and many others) started playing there were no modules. But that was before the age of "latest meta". When all that you've got is T1 and T2 robots & weapons, you can have very challenging games and not really miss modules/pilots.
But once they started with the T3 abilities, modules were required. Other robots need capability to counter the native ability of the oppposing robot. That was, however, before pilots.
As I've said before, War Robots is now an advertising platform where the owners make more money from ads than they do p2win.
the thing that bugs me a lot of the time is the one shot factor , it takes a second to kill a bot then there's the direct opposite where a bot simply cannot be killed ....there no duration battles ...way back when .....you had to fight it out and burn enemies down bit by bit ACTUAL BATTLES.
Yes! Absolutely this.I don't mind new weapon abilities but no new weapon should be able to take out another robot (at full health) in a single volley where the battle is over in less than a second.
The problem however is titans. With robots now expected to be able to deal damage to titans, the damage needs to be bumped up.
Maybe weapons like Repear need to do a % in damage per hit, say 2% at Mk3 and scale down from there. Applies to both titans and robots. maybe even change all T4 weapons to work that way...
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Post by killmenow on Aug 27, 2024 12:22:46 GMT -5
the thing that bugs me a lot of the time is the one shot factor , it takes a second to kill a bot then there's the direct opposite where a bot simply cannot be killed ....there no duration battles ...way back when .....you had to fight it out and burn enemies down bit by bit ACTUAL BATTLES.
Yes! Absolutely this.I don't mind new weapon abilities but no new weapon should be able to take out another robot (at full health) in a single volley where the battle is over in less than a second.
The problem however is titans. With robots now expected to be able to deal damage to titans, the damage needs to be bumped up.
Maybe weapons like Repear need to do a % in damage per hit, say 2% at Mk3 and scale down from there. Applies to both titans and robots. maybe even change all T4 weapons to work that way...
i made a suggestion before .....a new game mode - in this game mode titans are disabled period , bring it back to actual war robots ....battles between bots and not titans - add a leader board for this specific mode , we'll see who the real players are not those that rush to titans as quickly as possible. |
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Post by pwn☆broker on Aug 28, 2024 12:04:41 GMT -5
thanks NexusBlade I'm glad I've been so slack about upgrading modules Yeah no problem, Granted I presume maxed modules will probably yield more "modules" Yes I know stupid name for the currency... However Im not sure if the ratio will be much better, and any numbers at this point would be subject to change anyways especially given no one is supposed to know about this to begin with lol. My expectations in the end is a large stockpile of maxed modules for multiple hangers will give you enough to maybe max a couple bots in one hanger, but only time will tell.  This was my experience… sort of, with the Drone rework. I was plugging away on building microchips, took a break (ski season) and when I came back, was sort of satisfied to not have to build microchips anymore, less purple panties everywhere, and garnered a few, almost maxed, drones. At least that was my take on it. Others got screwed by the system. This time around, I full expect to be on the “screwed” side of the rework. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Aug 28, 2024 19:21:58 GMT -5
My bad, I meant to respond to this post⦠not the âVaselineâ thread⦠no experience with vaseline in here. This was my experience⦠sort of, with the Drone rework. I was plugging away on building microchips, took a break (ski season) and when I came back, was sort of satisfied to not have to build microchips anymore, less purple panties everywhere, and garnered a few, almost maxed, drones. At least that was my take on it. Others got screwed by the system. This time around, I full expect to be on the âscrewedâ side of the rework.
Spot on. I think Putonic have learned from their mistake about not screwing people over enough and that this time we'll all get 「fluffernutter」ed equally.
The new drone sysem has made for some interesting options but that's only because we have the freedom to choose which drone is on which robot.
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Post by 0megaman on Aug 29, 2024 15:52:48 GMT -5
here's the problem or some of them at least. they are attempting to get rid of f2p that's pretty clear and has been for a while or at the very least force people into spending more and more (which i wont do) BUT they also need free to play because they need something to put the spenders against in most cases hence clear game rigging. so lets say the push out the remaining f2p ..... I agree, they do need to maintain some level of F2P to bring players into the fold, however... They want to significantly reduce the numbers of those who dont spend. Each one of the pure F2P costs Pigsonic money, as each one of them represents overhead on their systems and as such, in their financial model. Either make them spend, or make it not worth it to play so they leave. All that compute and storage costs money. Pigsonic seems to be leaning into AI quite a bit, there is a rumor floating around they may be semi-smurfing player names which are just AI's made to look like a real player. I have not looked recently, but I have found some oddities in the past which point me to that being a possibility. Maybe I'm wrong, so take it with a grain of salt. I still think some sort of subscription model is possible. They may brick-wall new F2P who get to a certain point, then do something like no/low priority queues, and/or blatantly dump them into matches where they are target dummy's, etc. "Subscribe NOW to get priority game-play! Faster queue times! VIP Matchmaking!" etc etc. I really dont think theres a limit to the depths they will sink... as long as they can put lipstick on that pig (pardon the pun), they'll do it. |
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Post by 0megaman on Aug 29, 2024 16:00:11 GMT -5
This sounds like it's going to put a real knifing into 6 Pack. Uuuuuuugh.
6-Pack is exactly the kind of thing Pigsonic doesnt want. Theres really nothing in it for them.
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Post by dinnerplain on Aug 30, 2024 11:33:38 GMT -5
I still think some sort of subscription model is possible. They may brick-wall new F2P who get to a certain point, then do something like no/low priority queues, and/or blatantly dump them into matches where they are target dummy's, etc. "Subscribe NOW to get priority game-play! Faster queue times! VIP Matchmaking!" etc etc.
They already brickwall F2P - you just haven't noticed it.
Are F2P players getting lots of red/purple data cards to get the latest and greatest bits and pieces? No. They've even reduced the number of blue data cards that F2P can get (I think they learned they got it wrong when people like me are F2P with 5 Crisis robots in their hangers doing SFA) which means F2P now have a harder time even getting those robots/weapons.
Don't misunderstand the current situation, Putonic directly control how much meta kit F2P have.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Aug 30, 2024 11:42:32 GMT -5
I still think some sort of subscription model is possible. They may brick-wall new F2P who get to a certain point, then do something like no/low priority queues, and/or blatantly dump them into matches where they are target dummy's, etc. "Subscribe NOW to get priority game-play! Faster queue times! VIP Matchmaking!" etc etc.
They already brickwall F2P - you just haven't noticed it.
Are F2P players getting lots of red/purple data cards to get the latest and greatest bits and pieces? No. They've even reduced the number of blue data cards that F2P can get (I think they learned they got it wrong when people like me are F2P with 5 Crisis robots in their hangers doing SFA) which means F2P now have a harder time even getting those robots/weapons.
Don't misunderstand the current situation, Putonic directly control how much meta kit F2P have.
Damn, I wish I had taken a screenshot of a respondse to my Google review where the company rep insisted that they "always ensure F2P can build a competitive hangar" because of "YouTuber Giveaways" etc. It was a good laugh. |
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Post by 0megaman on Aug 30, 2024 15:52:49 GMT -5
I still think some sort of subscription model is possible. They may brick-wall new F2P who get to a certain point, then do something like no/low priority queues, and/or blatantly dump them into matches where they are target dummy's, etc. "Subscribe NOW to get priority game-play! Faster queue times! VIP Matchmaking!" etc etc.
They already brickwall F2P - you just haven't noticed it.
Are F2P players getting lots of red/purple data cards.....
In that regard, I totally agree. I meant the next level up, brick-walled in a more direct sense, i.e. not even being able to get into a match, making wait times really really long (or indefinite) etc, then if you wait around long enough, finally dropping you into a match where your entire hangar is destroyed in the first 60 seconds.
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Post by NexusBlade on Sept 20, 2024 8:27:09 GMT -5
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 20, 2024 8:32:58 GMT -5
Ok, if I read that right, it is outright robbery, as well as introducing yet another new currency. The mods we have now are basically null and void, reset to base, and we have to grind to upgrade AGAIN with said new currency. No trade in value for what we already have. Yeah, this might be my last yr playing this game. |
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Post by pwn☆broker on Sept 20, 2024 15:01:36 GMT -5
I thinks it’s funny (it’s not) that they call it ROBOT SPECIALIZATIONS… when there’s nothing special about it. Looks more “cookie-cutter” to me if everybody has to follow the same upgrade path/tree for a particular robot.
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Post by killmenow on Sept 20, 2024 15:25:18 GMT -5
module reworks details simplified.
pixonic : GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY NOW NOW NOW , WE WANT YOUR MONEY , WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU WE WANT YOUR MONEY! GIVE IT! GIVE IT! GIVE IT!!!!!
*head explodes*
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Post by 0megaman on Sept 20, 2024 17:23:21 GMT -5
No one should be surprised by this.
If you are, an Atari 2600 may be more your speed.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Sept 20, 2024 19:07:15 GMT -5
Thank God I spent zero resources on mods.
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Post by spectre729 on Sept 20, 2024 22:02:57 GMT -5
right when i was thinking about leveling up some of my modules(most of them are lvl 1)...guess I'll upgrade on other things
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Post by BB on Sept 21, 2024 9:29:06 GMT -5
 Beware of making poor choices 🤣 OMFG I can’t stop laughing at this My entire War Robots experience of over 8 years and racking up too many circus kills to count with tier 1 spazbots has your “poor choices” right here! |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Sept 21, 2024 10:19:47 GMT -5
Beware of making poor choices 🤣 OMFG I can’t stop laughing at this My entire War Robots experience of over 8 years and racking up too many circus kills to count with tier 1 spazbots has your “poor choices” right here! They introduce this crap, I'm gone for good. |
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 21, 2024 11:14:02 GMT -5
I have to laugh, the War Robots Reddit community seems to really be pissed about this as well. Go read the comments.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Sept 21, 2024 11:26:45 GMT -5
I have to laugh, the War Robots Reddit community seems to really be pissed about this as well. Go read the comments. But Pixonic absolutely, 100% listens to our feedback. Just ask and they'll tell you they do. |
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Post by munkeeee on Sept 21, 2024 14:39:31 GMT -5
I have to laugh, the War Robots Reddit community seems to really be pissed about this as well. Go read the comments. But Pixonic absolutely, 100% listens to our feedback. Just ask and they'll tell you they do. got some beach front property in Oklahoma I'd like to talk to you about purchasing as well. hahahaha |
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Post by pwn☆broker on Sept 22, 2024 21:25:21 GMT -5
「whiskey tango foxtrot」 is this… new Titan Passive Module. ? Maybe this is part of the rework… one of the Titan “ specializations”. ?  |
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 27, 2024 10:57:40 GMT -5
Beware of making poor choices 🤣 OMFG I can’t stop laughing at this My entire War Robots experience of over 8 years and racking up too many circus kills to count with tier 1 spazbots has your “poor choices” right here! They introduce this crap, I'm gone for good.
Me too. I hate the idea of being told how to play the game, which is the way it is going, especially when they can't/don't fix bugs and don't stop cheats.
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 27, 2024 10:59:20 GMT -5
ãwhiskey tango foxtrotã is this⦠new Titan Passive Module. ? Maybe this is part of the rework⦠one of the Titan â specializationsâ. ?
WHO GIVES A 「fluffernutter」 WHAT IT IS?
The problem is what's being taken away and forced upon us tastes awful. And not a nice awful, I mean it feels like they're shovellling 「dookie」 to us and expecting us to eat it because we're hungry.
At least with posts like this it kind of reveals the posters that are just shills for Pixonic (if not working for Pixonic.)
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Post by dinnerplain on Sept 27, 2024 11:02:41 GMT -5
I have to laugh, the War Robots Reddit community seems to really be pissed about this as well. Go read the comments. But Pixonic absolutely, 100% listens to our feedback. Just ask and they'll tell you they do.
They even tried to tell us it was a new useful feature. I wonder just how long they spent in the marketing department trying to work out how to sell this turd to the world. The fun part of this change will be watching all of the youtubers that do Pixonic marketing, waiting to see how they try to polish this turd to keep people spending/playing so they can keep their free benefits.
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Post by pwn☆broker on Sept 27, 2024 18:11:22 GMT -5
ãwhiskey tango foxtrotã is this⦠new Titan Passive Module. ? Maybe this is part of the rework⦠one of the Titan â specializationsâ. ?
WHO GIVES A 「fluffernutter」 WHAT IT IS?
The problem is what's being taken away and forced upon us tastes awful. And not a nice awful, I mean it feels like they're shovellling 「dookie」 to us and expecting us to eat it because we're hungry.
At least with posts like this it kind of reveals the posters that are just shills for Pixonic (if not working for Pixonic.)
Sweet baby Jesus… I hope I get paid for all this shill work. /s But seriously, it is what it is and all we can say is, “Thank you, may I have another please.” … Or hit the road. PIXO cares not about their longterm player base, only the whales with $$$ to burn. And sneaky ways to make others p2p. |
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