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Post by den1z on Apr 15, 2017 16:51:03 GMT -5
Ok, been seeing a lot of empty slots today and finally this (picture). Had just started. Made 3 jumps in my Cossack capper when 'game over, you've won'. What! Is! Going! On!
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Post by BigBear on Apr 15, 2017 16:55:28 GMT -5
Did all the other players in the red team tank ?
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Post by den1z on Apr 15, 2017 17:14:00 GMT -5
Did all the other players in the red team tank ? It's possible I guess but it was so fast. Having said that bigbear I just read another thread which you also commented on and I have to admit the possibility of being dropped, unfairly I feel, in the tankers queue. I don't last minute ditch, ever. Only drop the long range maps and get dropped into tanker purgatory? Feeling a tad miffed.
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Post by War Child on Apr 15, 2017 17:21:14 GMT -5
Did all the other players in the red team tank ? It's possible I guess but it was so fast. Having said that bigbear I just read another thread which you also commented on and I have to admit the possibility of being dropped, unfairly I feel, in the tankers queue. I don't last minute ditch, ever. Only drop the long range maps and get dropped into tanker purgatory? Feeling a tad miffed. It's officially called the "leavers queue",skipping maps is included in the target list.
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Post by BigBear on Apr 15, 2017 17:23:20 GMT -5
Thats what i dont like about this Leavers Queue,you dont actually know if you are in it or not,surely if its a punishment you should be informed you are being placed into it and then you know for sure your previous gaming activity is being punished and its then up to you if you continue to play the same way.
den1z did you look at the final score screen at the end of the game ?
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Post by den1z on Apr 15, 2017 17:47:06 GMT -5
Hey bigbear, I did look at the scores and it was zero across the board. Nothing happened, no shots, no caps. I guess now I need to decide if I want to play the rest of the game enough to suffer the sniper maps or stay in a punishment that pix said wouldn't apply to anyone who skipped maps they don't like. Sigh.
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Post by BigBear on Apr 15, 2017 17:51:48 GMT -5
Im still not convinced map skipping is getting punished,i read the same statement you did from Pixonic that stated you was safe to map skip if you didnt like playing that map.If Pix are saying you can no longer skip maps why is the option to do so still there ?
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Post by amidf on Apr 15, 2017 18:38:50 GMT -5
Im still not convinced map skipping is getting punished,i read the same statement you did from Pixonic that stated you was safe to map skip if you didnt like playing that map.If Pix are saying you can no longer skip maps why is the option to do so still there ? Did you read the word "occasionally" in the statement? You can no longer skip maps more than occasionally unless you're OK with being in the leaver's queue. There are many posts on this forum from people who are in the leaver's queue whose only admitted sin is map skipping. -Amid
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Post by den1z on Apr 16, 2017 4:58:04 GMT -5
In fairness, I probably didn't read or acknowledge that. I really dislike Yamantau so I skip it. If the game throws it up 6 times then I'll skip 6 times . So i guess that makes me prime candidate for the leavers queue. YAY! What to do now...?
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Post by amidf on Apr 16, 2017 8:40:37 GMT -5
In fairness, I probably didn't read or acknowledge that. I really dislike Yamantau so I skip it. If the game throws it up 6 times then I'll skip 6 times . So i guess that makes me prime candidate for the leavers queue. YAY! What to do now...? Play Yamantau.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 16, 2017 10:00:25 GMT -5
From a purely practical standpoint, if the punishment for littering is the same as the punishment for murder..... If you're going to litter you might as well off some folks while you do it. A bit of hyperbole, but it illustrates the principle.
Silly to lump everyone together.
If you're in the LQ cause you can't stand SF and Yamantau is boring.... it's very tempting to actually *tank* once you're in there.
I skip maps so I'm in LQ. Except for maps that are no fun, I play everything straight. Which means I'm up 2 leagues in the past few days. If I ever want to 'be good' and choke down the rotting gruel that Pix feeds me (I really really don't like SF or Yamantau) I kind of need to tank first.
And being in the LQ already, WHY NOT? Tanking is *normal* here, it's expected. The average match only has around 8 active players - sometimes more, sometimes far far less. (I once basically played a one on one duel on Canyon with someone from Champions league. He won but it was *close*, it ended with me meched out and his last bot badly hurt.)
So in LQ, if you tank, you're not hurting any matches. You're just random background noise.
Do they think this through? Put people who don't tank in the tankers' purgatory where tanking is everywhere and normal, to teach them 2 things:
1) Tanking is normal, so why not? 2) If you're going to be punished for it without doing it, might as well do it.
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Post by BigBear on Apr 16, 2017 16:29:54 GMT -5
In fairness, I probably didn't read or acknowledge that. I really dislike Yamantau so I skip it. If the game throws it up 6 times then I'll skip 6 times . So i guess that makes me prime candidate for the leavers queue. YAY! What to do now...? Play Yamantau. Or get used to playing in the leavers queue,gotta be a lot more fun than playing Yamantau for sure.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 16, 2017 16:52:35 GMT -5
Why don't you just play the fricken' map and expand your horizons a bit!
The reason they are chosen at random in the first place is so that every map gets even play time since everyone is going to favor certain maps. Not to mention, the added element of surprise, which forces you to keep a more well rounded hangar. Can you imagine being able to pick Dead City every match? Players could stockpile their hangars with Patton Aphids, for example, and only play that map! Each map would be littered with whatever setup was highly advantageous to the map. Your disliked Yamantau would be primarily filled with snipers and campers. Each map would have some sort of meta bot that people would max and play only that map.
Make sense? I hope this can encourage you to see a different perspective, start break out from that shell, and quit being so selfish. Thank you for your time.
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Post by den1z on Apr 16, 2017 17:31:33 GMT -5
Why don't you just play the fricken' map and expand your horizons a bit! The reason they are chosen at random in the first place is so that every map gets even play time since everyone is going to favor certain maps. Not to mention, the added element of surprise, which forces you to keep a more well rounded hangar. Can you imagine being able to pick Dead City every match? Players could stockpile their hangars with Patton Aphids, for example, and only play that map! Each map would be littered with whatever setup was highly advantageous to the map. Your disliked Yamantau would be primarily filled with snipers and campers. Each map would have some sort of meta bot that people would max and play only that map. Make sense? I hope this can encourage you to see a different perspective, start break out from that shell, and quit being so selfish. Thank you for your time. Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. My horizons are quite expanded thank you. I've been playing this a fair while and dutifully followed the herd through all maps even though I didn't like them all. It was pix who said you're not expected to play maps you don't like. I took this at face value and started enjoying the game more when I didn't play maps I didn't enjoy... and then ended up in this tankers paradise, in this thread, searching politely and respectfully for answers which I've appreciatively recieved from folks. You come along with no knowledge or understanding of me and tell me "expand my fricken' horizons a bit". It just sounds a bit rude.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 16, 2017 18:55:45 GMT -5
Why don't you just play the fricken' map and expand your horizons a bit! The reason they are chosen at random in the first place is so that every map gets even play time since everyone is going to favor certain maps. Not to mention, the added element of surprise, which forces you to keep a more well rounded hangar. Can you imagine being able to pick Dead City every match? Players could stockpile their hangars with Patton Aphids, for example, and only play that map! Each map would be littered with whatever setup was highly advantageous to the map. Your disliked Yamantau would be primarily filled with snipers and campers. Each map would have some sort of meta bot that people would max and play only that map. Make sense? I hope this can encourage you to see a different perspective, start break out from that shell, and quit being so selfish. Thank you for your time. Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. My horizons are quite expanded thank you. I've been playing this a fair while and dutifully followed the herd through all maps even though I didn't like them all. It was pix who said you're not expected to play maps you don't like. I took this at face value and started enjoying the game more when I didn't play maps I didn't enjoy... and then ended up in this tankers paradise, in this thread, searching politely and respectfully for answers which I've appreciatively recieved from folks. You come along with no knowledge or understanding of me and tell me "expand my fricken' horizons a bit". It just sounds a bit rude. It may be, but so does leaving matches which aren't preferable to you. So I will not apologize if I come off as rude I will say that it would be amazing to choose the map, but it just isn't that plausible in such a game. They could, however, possibly implement a sort of voting system before the match starts so that the players would vote between two choices maybe? You've got to tough it out in the maps you don't like so that the ones who do like them are able to enjoy them. Challenge yourself to find new techniques for each map in order to find your way to victory. (I've also gotten pissed off dropping into the same map over and over and maps that often aren't enjoyable due to what often fills the match. I know the pain but also have amazing matches in all maps too.)
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Post by den1z on Apr 16, 2017 20:05:02 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. My horizons are quite expanded thank you. I've been playing this a fair while and dutifully followed the herd through all maps even though I didn't like them all. It was pix who said you're not expected to play maps you don't like. I took this at face value and started enjoying the game more when I didn't play maps I didn't enjoy... and then ended up in this tankers paradise, in this thread, searching politely and respectfully for answers which I've appreciatively recieved from folks. You come along with no knowledge or understanding of me and tell me "expand my fricken' horizons a bit". It just sounds a bit rude. It may be, but so does leaving matches which aren't preferable to you. So I will not apologize if I come off as rude I will say that it would be amazing to choose the map, but it just isn't that plausible in such a game. They could, however, possibly implement a sort of voting system before the match starts so that the players would vote between two choices maybe? You've got to tough it out in the maps you don't like so that the ones who do like them are able to enjoy them. Challenge yourself to find new techniques for each map in order to find your way to victory. (I've also gotten pissed off dropping into the same map over and over and maps that often aren't enjoyable due to what often fills the match. I know the pain but also have amazing matches in all maps too.) I was under the impression, particularly after pix released the 'you're ok to skip maps you don't like' statement, that so long as you bailed instantly and gave the gap chance to be filled by someone who does like to be there, that it was ok and no one gets stiffed. As I said previously, I've played this a good while and like to think I'm a fair and supportive player. I've dutifully played all the maps and unwillingly been the 'light brigade'. Your comment was, imho, unnecessarily rude. You could have easily conveyed your meaning and opinion without resorting to that. I do however share your hopes of choice in the future.
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Post by den1z on Apr 16, 2017 20:08:11 GMT -5
It may be, but so does leaving matches which aren't preferable to you. So I will not apologize if I come off as rude I will say that it would be amazing to choose the map, but it just isn't that plausible in such a game. They could, however, possibly implement a sort of voting system before the match starts so that the players would vote between two choices maybe? You've got to tough it out in the maps you don't like so that the ones who do like them are able to enjoy them. Challenge yourself to find new techniques for each map in order to find your way to victory. (I've also gotten pissed off dropping into the same map over and over and maps that often aren't enjoyable due to what often fills the match. I know the pain but also have amazing matches in all maps too.) I was under the impression, particularly after pix released the 'you're ok to skip maps you don't like' statement, that so long as you bailed instantly and gave the gap chance to be filled by someone who does like to be there, that it was ok and no one gets stiffed. As I said previously, I've played this a good while and like to think I'm a fair and supportive player. I've dutifully played all the maps and unwillingly been the 'light brigade'. Your comment was, imho, unnecessarily rude. You could have easily conveyed your meaning and opinion without resorting to that. I do however share your hopes of choice in the future. PS, my dislike for Yamantau is precisely what you said in your initial reply, that it's been littered with snipers and campers. Just wanted to clear that up.
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Post by SuperHero on Apr 16, 2017 20:09:50 GMT -5
Actually, I've experienced this before. It's possible if you happen to have encountered an entire red squad tanking.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 20:38:09 GMT -5
Thats what i dont like about this Leavers Queue,you dont actually know if you are in it or not,surely if its a punishment you should be informed you are being placed into it and then you know for sure your previous gaming activity is being punished and its then up to you if you continue to play the same way. den1z did you look at the final score screen at the end of the game ? You'll know if you're in it. It's unmistakable.
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Post by den1z on Apr 16, 2017 21:12:10 GMT -5
Thats what i dont like about this Leavers Queue,you dont actually know if you are in it or not,surely if its a punishment you should be informed you are being placed into it and then you know for sure your previous gaming activity is being punished and its then up to you if you continue to play the same way. den1z did you look at the final score screen at the end of the game ? You'll know if you're in it. It's unmistakable. Very true, I now find. As an added bonus I'm now experiencing that due to myself v 6 or myself and one of two others v 6, not to mention connection issues (but only when exposed and under fire ?) I'm 'tanking ' like a possessed lead zeppelin. Next I'll unwillingly join the despised ranks of the deliberate tankers. SERIOUSLY PIXONIC?
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Post by omgtakebeacon on Apr 16, 2017 22:41:33 GMT -5
Those are not only tankers, alot of people crash 50% of all games within countdown. Like me
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Post by hyderier on Apr 16, 2017 23:47:54 GMT -5
As a hint to map skippers, who want to avoid the LQ: learn to like all the maps. Some maps have only a few sensible things you can do. Find and do them. They'll never be as fun as the better maps, but they can still be quite ok.
And when you get the same map many times in a row, think what you did wrong last time, and try to consciously improve. That makes the repetition a bit more bearable.
Also, consider adjusting your hangar to have more mid rangers or fast cappers. The game isn't "pick any hangar you want, game has to adapt", no. It's "game is what it is, build your hangar accordingly".
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Post by den1z on Apr 17, 2017 3:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by [apotheosis] on Apr 17, 2017 3:45:51 GMT -5
I always see the connection issues from other people. I must be lucky? I have dropped less than 5 games in a thousand due to connection. I even play on spotty 4g from time to time.
Sorry your having an unenjoyable time, hope it gets better.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 17, 2017 12:06:01 GMT -5
It's not up to Pixonic to give you a good connection.
That sir, rests solely upon you.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Apr 17, 2017 12:16:53 GMT -5
It's not up to Pixonic to give you a good connection. That sir, rests solely upon you. Well I mean both are kind of at fault.. The player -- Their WiFi speeds Pixo -- Servers..
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Apr 17, 2017 12:50:59 GMT -5
On the other hand... If you're having troubles with connection issues and or certain maps, I highly recommend joining up with some members of the facebook Forum Mercenaries group. It'll kill 3 birds with one stone. One, it won't place a whole squad in the leavers queue. At least, not in my experience but then again maybe one can bring all? Two, if you do disconnect you just jump in the discord server and let everyone know. No hard feelings. Three, you can squad up with those who run mid or long range support and have more fun running knife fighters in maps that you don't like. Heres the link, everybody is welcome so get in on the action and improve your game experience! www.facebook.com/groups/WarRobotsMercenaries/?ref=group_cover
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Post by Domino on Apr 17, 2017 13:28:00 GMT -5
I have seen times where the connection freezes, when it unfreezes you see 2+ players all "Destroyed" at the exact same time. That's a server issue. Doesn't happen often but it does happen.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 17, 2017 14:36:07 GMT -5
I have seen times where the connection freezes, when it unfreezes you see 2+ players all "Destroyed" at the exact same time. That's a server issue. Doesn't happen often but it does happen. I think it means your app missed some updates on what was happening, and then it just receives new game state at some point, and know bots have been destroyed but doesn't know how, when or where (the bot will drop dead on ots last known position, all at client side, but it doesn't matter much because players just walk through dead bots). It could be server issue, but more likely it is just a connection problem. Could be at their end, at your end, or anywhere in between.
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Post by ewing411 on Apr 17, 2017 16:14:17 GMT -5
As a hint to map skippers, who want to avoid the LQ: learn to like all the maps. Some maps have only a few sensible things you can do. Find and do them. They'll never be as fun as the better maps, but they can still be quite ok. And when you get the same map many times in a row, think what you did wrong last time, and try to consciously improve. That makes the repetition a bit more bearable. Also, consider adjusting your hangar to have more mid rangers or fast cappers. The game isn't "pick any hangar you want, game has to adapt", no. It's "game is what it is, build your hangar accordingly". I don't think people can learn to like something they hate. This is a recreational activity not a job. If Pix cannot detect a single map someone clearly hates then they need to reevaluate what data they are collecting on people. Some people seem to be excelling in the Leavers Que. If the original poster is there he may well want to consider seeing if he can win the meta game.
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