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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 22, 2024 6:03:05 GMT -5
Is it worth buying carnage for 2.5k gold im lvl 23 1372 thropy on this account and wanna go for strong hangar should i buy it or save it for maybe ao qin?
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Post by gus169 on Jul 22, 2024 6:07:54 GMT -5
Carnage is not a viable option in the current game, no. Fenrir. Ravana. Typhon. All much stronger options
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 22, 2024 6:49:49 GMT -5
Carnage is not a viable option in the current game, no. Fenrir. Ravana. Typhon. All much stronger options But its my baby account right now has mercury leo griffin butch i wanna change butch got 2x from silver chest |
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Post by gus169 on Jul 22, 2024 7:55:08 GMT -5
Butch is probably stronger than Carnage these days. Too many energy weapons for that blue shield to count for much. If you're looking at saving 4k for an Ao Qin, maybe consider a Lancelot. A Fenrir's hardpoints on a rushing platform, with a solid 300hp front plate. That'll take you a long way
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 22, 2024 7:57:11 GMT -5
Butch is probably stronger than Carnage these days. Too many energy weapons for that blue shield to count for much. If you're looking at saving 4k for an Ao Qin, maybe consider a Lancelot. A Fenrir's hardpoints on a rushing platform, with a solid 300hp front plate. That'll take you a long way Idk if i have said but ill have fenrir in a week so my hangar will be like mercury fenrir leo natasha/griffin also i bought natasha using pin 2x and ancile and trident i have tempest and thunder too should i replace anyth? |
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 22, 2024 8:08:16 GMT -5
Butch is probably stronger than Carnage these days. Too many energy weapons for that blue shield to count for much. If you're looking at saving 4k for an Ao Qin, maybe consider a Lancelot. A Fenrir's hardpoints on a rushing platform, with a solid 300hp front plate. That'll take you a long way Also carnage is energy shield i think not blue physical |
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Post by gus169 on Jul 22, 2024 8:37:23 GMT -5
ok. Carnage has a blue shield. If you look in the description, you will see it is called an energy shield. This will block kinetics and explosives, but not energy weapons. When we say 'physical' shield, we mean the hardplate on the front of a Lancelot, Raijin, Bulgasari, or an equipped ECU. This will stop energy well, but takes 2X damage from bullets, and won't stop splash. Yeah, the naming 'logic' is backward, but that's how it is.
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 22, 2024 9:30:38 GMT -5
ok. Carnage has a blue shield. If you look in the description, you will see it is called an energy shield. This will block kinetics and explosives, but not energy weapons. When we say 'physical' shield, we mean the hardplate on the front of a Lancelot, Raijin, Bulgasari, or an equipped ECU. This will stop energy well, but takes 2X damage from bullets, and won't stop splash. Yeah, the naming 'logic' is backward, but that's how it is. Alright gotcha didnt know that it was blue one thought yellow blue one sucks on meta a bit |
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Post by spectre729 on Jul 22, 2024 11:23:44 GMT -5
carnage is great!!
if it was 2018...
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 22, 2024 12:23:11 GMT -5
Carnage used tk be a great Bot, but pretty much everything it does in now obsolete.
1) Ancile shield is weak low capacity, plus it's bypassed by a ton of weapons/abilities. And the Bot itself has too low durability to survive without it.
2) Rush Ability...most modern Bots are as fast or faster full time
3) Firepower. 2 Heavies is nothing in today's Meta. Lynx or even Orochi will shred a Carage even at a much lower level.
As much as I loved my Dragoon Carnage back in the day, it no longer has any features that make it worthwhile, unless you just want a cheap platform to level up 2 Heavies.
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Post by BB on Jul 22, 2024 13:25:38 GMT -5
I’m a “It’s not the bot, its the driver” guy. But with Carny, it really IS the bot!😆 It’s obsolete, my Cossacks and Rogs get more play than my two Carnys I’ve had for years. It used to be meta a loooooong time ago, but now it’s just a slow moving pile of silver almost any other bot can wipe out with very little effort.
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Post by NexusBlade on Jul 22, 2024 22:41:30 GMT -5
I gotta agree with what the others said here, Unfortunately Carnage hasn't been viable in years, and assuming you're most likely ftp burning gold and silver on a dead end platform will only set you back.
I would set those resources aside and work towards a more reliable platform, Ravana is a solid Evergreen bot and highly recommended as an all around competitive bot, other good options would be Harpy and Siren which make decent weapons platforms and give you an aerial edge although they are more situational. Certain other bots Like Ares can also be super solid with Ozu, Even Leech and Typhon can be decent when built right and played effectively, and from experience Seraph can fill a niche role with Victoria due to a specific high speed build you can do, although that setup has a high skill floor to meet in order to be effective, rewarding if you wanted to go for it, although I wouldn't generally recommend it above the others mentioned in terms of overall hanger performance.
But no matter what please don't waste resources on Carnage....
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Post by milty72 on Jul 23, 2024 5:36:06 GMT -5
「fluffernutter」 it. I'm running a Carny next month whilst I'm away on holidays.
And whilst I'm at it I'll run an all twin heavy hangar.
Carnage, Bulwark, Than new heap of 「dookie」, and I don't know two others.
Twin Heavy 「fluffernutter」 Yeah Holiday Hangar.
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Post by munkeeee on Jul 23, 2024 7:29:30 GMT -5
ãfluffernutterã it. I'm running a Carny next month whilst I'm away on holidays. And whilst I'm at it I'll run an all twin heavy hangar. Carnage, Bulwark, Than new heap of ãdookieã, and I don't know two others. Twin Heavy ãfluffernutterã Yeah Holiday Hangar. Twin Heavy 「fluffernutter」 Yeah Holiday Hangar, awesome. Hahaha |
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Post by 079 on Jul 23, 2024 12:50:40 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 23, 2024 13:27:33 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point. Bulwark is probably the direct spiritual successor of Carnage, although without the speed boost. A little tough in the current Meta, but still passable with the right build. *NOTE: I also run a Strider and a Hover in my hangar on the cusp of Champ League, so I have different standards than most when it comes to whether a Bot is "viable". |
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 23, 2024 13:46:36 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point. Bulwark is probably the direct spiritual successor of Carnage, although without the speed boost. A little tough in the current Meta, but still passable with the right build. *NOTE: I also run a Strider and a Hover in my hangar on the cusp of Champ League, so I have different standards than most when it comes to whether a Bot is "viable". U run strider with the 8% dmg pilot every dash? |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 23, 2024 13:48:35 GMT -5
Bulwark is probably the direct spiritual successor of Carnage, although without the speed boost. A little tough in the current Meta, but still passable with the right build. *NOTE: I also run a Strider and a Hover in my hangar on the cusp of Champ League, so I have different standards than most when it comes to whether a Bot is "viable". U run strider with the 8% dmg pilot every dash? Unfortunately not, I didn't get that one until I already had Adrian at about Level 50 or so, didn't want to start over. Thinking about it now, but it's not gonna happen unless I cave and buy a Memorium deal. |
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Post by NexusBlade on Jul 23, 2024 19:39:05 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point. Oh most certainly, Lynx is definitely a top tier contender with the Sati pilot, although unfortunately it's unavailable in the workshop atm. But nonetheless just like Ravana it's proven itself a solid evergreen bot, great ability with a short cooldown, great speed, decent firepower, and the execution weapon can come in very handy. Actually just Cycled my mk3 Lynx back into my hanger with mk3 Hammers and been having fun with that. |
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 23, 2024 23:22:46 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point. Oh most certainly, Lynx is definitely a top tier contender with the Sati pilot, although unfortunately it's unavailable in the workshop atm. But nonetheless just like Ravana it's proven itself a solid evergreen bot, great ability with a short cooldown, great speed, decent firepower, and the execution weapon can come in very handy. Actually just Cycled my mk3 Lynx back into my hanger with mk3 Hammers and been having fun with that. I dont know but lynx have its own defense something it gets low damage i dont get it tho from pilot or ability soemthing |
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Post by NexusBlade on Jul 23, 2024 23:54:14 GMT -5
Oh most certainly, Lynx is definitely a top tier contender with the Sati pilot, although unfortunately it's unavailable in the workshop atm. But nonetheless just like Ravana it's proven itself a solid evergreen bot, great ability with a short cooldown, great speed, decent firepower, and the execution weapon can come in very handy. Actually just Cycled my mk3 Lynx back into my hanger with mk3 Hammers and been having fun with that. I dont know but lynx have its own defense something it gets low damage i dont get it tho from pilot or ability soemthing Lynx has a built in passive Forcefield, and it gives the bot solid damage resistance until the forcefield is destroyed and it takes all damage, until the forcefield regenerates of course. And during ability it gets stealth, The Sati pilot "The best Lynx Pilot" increases the ability duration by 2 seconds for 6 seconds of stealth, and therefore an extra Execution shot. Lynx might not be available in the workshop yet, however IF you wanted to invest in any of the mk2 deals that make their rounds, it's one of the few that will stay relevant all the way to Champions league, but as far as FTP accessible evergreens Ravana is easily achievable, and so are Havocs which go fantastically on Ravana and pair well with it's ability. |
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Post by ahmetkocyigit201 on Jul 24, 2024 0:03:00 GMT -5
I dont know but lynx have its own defense something it gets low damage i dont get it tho from pilot or ability soemthing Lynx has a built in passive Forcefield, and it gives the bot solid damage resistance until the forcefield is destroyed and it takes all damage, until the forcefield regenerates of course. And during ability it gets stealth, The Sati pilot "The best Lynx Pilot" increases the ability duration by 2 seconds for 6 seconds of stealth, and therefore an extra Execution shot. Lynx might not be available in the workshop yet, however IF you wanted to invest in any of the mk2 deals that make their rounds, it's one of the few that will stay relevant all the way to Champions league, but as far as FTP accessible evergreens Ravana is easily achievable, and so are Havocs which go fantastically on Ravana and pair well with it's ability. Ye lynx is broken i couldnt kill him but kill with only harpy with the bombs and aojun with shieldbreaker? Idk if that makes his damage reduction gone |
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Post by 079 on Jul 27, 2024 15:54:26 GMT -5
Lynx has a built in passive Forcefield, and it gives the bot solid damage resistance until the forcefield is destroyed and it takes all damage, until the forcefield regenerates of course. And during ability it gets stealth, The Sati pilot "The best Lynx Pilot" increases the ability duration by 2 seconds for 6 seconds of stealth, and therefore an extra Execution shot. Lynx might not be available in the workshop yet, however IF you wanted to invest in any of the mk2 deals that make their rounds, it's one of the few that will stay relevant all the way to Champions league, but as far as FTP accessible evergreens Ravana is easily achievable, and so are Havocs which go fantastically on Ravana and pair well with it's ability. Ye lynx is broken i couldnt kill him but kill with only harpy with the bombs and aojun with shieldbreaker? Idk if that makes his damage reduction gone Shieldbreaker does not ignore the Force Field shield unfortunately. Currently the only ways to reliably bypass it are the status effects Corrosion, Rust, and Blast, as well as the Reaper weapon having its projectiles bypass the shield. |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 27, 2024 16:37:00 GMT -5
Ye lynx is broken i couldnt kill him but kill with only harpy with the bombs and aojun with shieldbreaker? Idk if that makes his damage reduction gone Shieldbreaker does not ignore the Force Field shield unfortunately. Currently the only ways to reliably bypass it are the status effects Corrosion, Rust, and Blast, as well as the Reaper weapon having its projectiles bypass the shield. Lynx has fairly low durability, so you need to hit him hard and just keep dealing damage...when his Forcefield starts to weaken, he can go down fast. Quantum Radar is a great counter so you can hit him while Stealthed. I think effects like DoT and BlastCharge bypass the forcefield as well |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 27, 2024 16:58:01 GMT -5
Carnage may be obsolete, but at least it's still sexy 😉  |
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Post by pwn☆broker on Jul 27, 2024 17:17:31 GMT -5
carnage is great!! if it was 2018... carnage is META!! in 6 pack... A quote from the 6pack #detailed-guide channel: Carnage: Meta damage: 2 durability: 2 speed: 2 This bot has some advanced durability aspects with the energy shield and can move two heavy weapons around the battlefield very quickly. The downside is it is very weak to plasma. If you can avoid plasma on the battlefield the Thunder and Zeus variations can be very dangerous. The Trident version can be viable but often tougher bots such as the Leo, Rajin, or any bot with an Ancile can simply ignore the two Tridents just like they can ignore Tulumbass and Pins. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Jul 27, 2024 19:16:37 GMT -5
It should be noted that while Carnage itself is a lost cause, its playstyle does live on in more modern platforms. Orochi and Lynx are the most obvious examples, but Seraph, Ao Jun, and even Pursuer (though that bot is pretty dated too) can also scratch the Carnage itch. Ambusher bots are a cornerstone of the game at this point. Bulwark is probably the direct spiritual successor of Carnage, although without the speed boost. A little tough in the current Meta, but still passable with the right build. *NOTE: I also run a Strider and a Hover in my hangar on the cusp of Champ League, so I have different standards than most when it comes to whether a Bot is "viable".
I used Bulwark to great effect for quite a long time. With some good weapons on top and well configured pilot/drone/modules, it can make for a good sniper.
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