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Post by Wolfblood7 on Jul 18, 2024 9:49:02 GMT -5
Well, seems like we got what we wanted. Sort of.
It's been 6 months since we last saw a nerf in the game, and personally I think it's worse. At least you'd get destroyed by a robot, it would get nerfed, then you'd get destroyed by a different robot. Not anymore.
The Eiffel and especially the Curie are still ridiculously broken, and are arguably the best robot and titan in the game today, even though they dropped last Christmas. Yes, Raptors and Bagliores are strong too, but they also get destroyed by Subduer Curies.
I'm all for content that doesn't get nerfed, it's better for F2P players if they obtain it, but if the content is ridiculously broken then it needs a nerf.
Haven't made a thread on here in ages, guess I just realised as I was getting 「go solo」ed by a Subduer Curie this morning how long they've been OP for.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 18, 2024 10:15:39 GMT -5
In my opinion, it was never nerfs (in general) that were the problem...it was overcorrection. An item would be laughably OP on release, go as-is for far too long despite player complaints starting in Test Server, and then when the nerf finally came, it would be far beyond what was needed for balance.
Nerfing OP content is essential for ga.e balance. Nerfing the current Meta into oblivion every 3-6 months is just a cash grab to sell the new content.
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Post by gus169 on Jul 18, 2024 10:45:09 GMT -5
yeah, I'm getting sick of subduers on anything, and the zappies but at least they're a bit newer. Curie too. they've had their run now, surely.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 18, 2024 12:29:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I only run Subduer Curie for 400m+ event tasks. 400m Clan tasks get vid-cleared instead. Instead, I’m running this!  Falcon is back, baby! |
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Post by killmenow on Jul 18, 2024 12:32:50 GMT -5
the way it works : an item that is currently making them money will not receive a nerf until the numbers (money made) starts dropping off - first it will make them money by people buying those stupid cards THEN when that dies down they will put it in the shop at mk2 THEN when that dies off it'll receive a nerf to make way for the next , if it's not nerfed people are still buying it...it's that simple.
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Post by BB on Jul 18, 2024 13:47:24 GMT -5
yeah, I'm getting sick of subduers on anything, and the zappies but at least they're a bit newer. Curie too. they've had their run now, surely. I got so sick of their sound I removed my own from rotation. Ugly and everywhere is not my style |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 18, 2024 14:49:26 GMT -5
yeah, I'm getting sick of subduers on anything, and the zappies but at least they're a bit newer. Curie too. they've had their run now, surely. I got so sick of their sound I removed my own from rotation. Ugly and everywhere is not my style Funny how they tend to make the most obnoxious weapons have equally loud and obnoxious sounds that take over the whole battlefield. Those bendy bullets are/were like torture, even fired from the other side of a map. |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 18, 2024 14:54:43 GMT -5
the way it works : an item that is currently making them money will not receive a nerf until the numbers (money made) starts dropping off Was going to say this. They must still be selling strongly for them to be "untouched" at this point. I just got my hands on the first Curie from the bingo cards which tells me they are starting to roll out the shards for them more often so the nerf must be pretty close now. The Dagon might get a slight reprieve due to the indirect nerf provided by unstable conduits shield breaker. So much easier to deal with them now. |
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Post by killmenow on Jul 18, 2024 15:45:28 GMT -5
the way it works : an item that is currently making them money will not receive a nerf until the numbers (money made) starts dropping off Was going to say this. They must still be selling strongly for them to be "untouched" at this point. I just got my hands on the first Curie from the bingo cards which tells me they are starting to roll out the shards for them more often so the nerf must be pretty close now. The Dagon might get a slight reprieve due to the indirect nerf provided by unstable conduits shield breaker. So much easier to deal with them now. the dagon its self is not the problem really ....any braindead fool can kill it (well most anyways lol) the problem is the number of weapon slots + addon to that all these new weapons ...hell because i play smart i kill dagons in my dagon all the time ...it comes down to it's firepower. |
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Post by T34 on Jul 18, 2024 18:18:43 GMT -5
Something is going on. The Curie, Dagon and the Subduers should have been nerfed some time ago if Pix were to follow their normal playbook. Even the jumping green frog with zappers should be on the chopping block. No nerfs to drones….
Some of my suspicions:
- Users got pissed off with the nerf cycle and reduced spending, so, Pix had to cool things. Steamchart participation trends may be interpreted to align with this assumption.
- Older gear is still selling well and people are still pouring resources into it. This assumption has to be considered but is totally out of character with Pix’s previous approach.
- Devs are too busy with something else.
- War Robots is being sold again and My Games is milking it now
- The release of the new intel feature is imminent, and they are giving all a break before the deluge.
I think it’s the last point with consideration for the first point.
The other interesting thing which stopped me from levelling some more modules was the announcement about the module rework. What happened to that? Haven’t seen a new module for ages.
Hold onto your hats and valets. It is too calm.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 18, 2024 19:08:02 GMT -5
yeah, I'm getting sick of subduers on anything, and the zappies but at least they're a bit newer. Curie too. they've had their run now, surely. I got so sick of their sound I removed my own from rotation. Ugly and everywhere is not my style On the flip side, sound is one of the reasons I like the new Mag weapons. Cool sounds…almost makes me want to run Tarans. |
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Post by gus169 on Jul 19, 2024 1:20:41 GMT -5
I got so sick of their sound I removed my own from rotation. Ugly and everywhere is not my style On the flip side, sound is one of the reasons I like the new Mag weapons. Cool sounds…almost makes me want to run Tarans. Taran still makes the punchiest sound in the game right? And I've come to love the rhythm of Molots. I got a Raptor with 'em today  |
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Post by NexusBlade on Jul 19, 2024 2:32:30 GMT -5
Something is going on.... War Robots is being sold again and My Games is milking it now - The release of the new intel feature is imminent, and they are giving all a break before the deluge. And we have a winner! For starters I do disagree with the overarching take that the lack of nerfs is a bad thing, op or not more access to competitive gear that retains its value for fighting newer gear is far superior than always having a hanger be rendered obsolete and replaced by a new toy, if everything is op... nothing is, been saying that for years, is that an ideal game state? No... but its a lot 「fluffernutter」ing better than what we have got for so many years, RIP Ao Jun, Orochi, Fafnir, Seraph, and so many more... However I also don't believe for a second that pixonic suddenly had a chance of heart.... Back to the point, with Intel and its intrinsic auto nerf system that alone will maintain a similar yet less consistent and more convoluted status quo, although IF in the unlikely situation that older meta don't receive direct nerfs they'll at least retain their playstyle which would be nice but unlikely... Currently the main reason things seem to be on pause? According to some things I've heard it appears War Robots is in fact getting sold again, which if that comes to pass could be good or bad and we can speculate all we want... but it's probable they want a consistent product while negotiating the sale assuming it goes through. |
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Post by easystrider on Jul 19, 2024 8:55:33 GMT -5
There were company sales before and I don't think they impacted players in any major way. Sure, they could have been sham sales to hide true ownership but if that was the case I don't think they are going to sell it for real this time either. From Pixonic reported numbers they are making over 11 million dollars a month, which with majority of workforce in Russia means War Robots is a money printing machine. So if anybody buys it I presume they would not want to change a thing.
I agree that if proven true the intel feature we discussed in another thread is going to be natural way to nerf content going forward. No need to do it manually one more time, I think they are getting ready to roll it out.
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Post by munkeeee on Jul 19, 2024 18:53:00 GMT -5
I been going back an forth about this, and one of the only conclusions I can draw from this is, I am dead meat. 3 hangars, 3 different spider types majority, with the odd man being the 5th as the other hangar. So I am literally nerfing MYSELF into oblivion.
Pix has some doozy ideas, but this will wreck the game. Not break, WRECK.
f2p say goodbye.
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Post by 079 on Jul 20, 2024 9:39:49 GMT -5
It seems like Pixonic nerfs things in batches now, rather than nerfing the previous meta every time a new one comes out. There always seems to be a big quarterly update where we only get a new robot or weapon (as opposed to both) and there are a ton of changes. The game usually feels better after these updates, especially since Pixonic usually introduces a quality of life feature during them too, but usually by the end of the month it is back to normal.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Jul 20, 2024 15:53:26 GMT -5
Was going to say this. They must still be selling strongly for them to be "untouched" at this point. I just got my hands on the first Curie from the bingo cards which tells me they are starting to roll out the shards for them more often so the nerf must be pretty close now. The Dagon might get a slight reprieve due to the indirect nerf provided by unstable conduits shield breaker. So much easier to deal with them now. the dagon its self is not the problem really ....any braindead fool can kill it (well most anyways lol) the problem is the number of weapon slots + addon to that all these new weapons ...hell because i play smart i kill dagons in my dagon all the time ...it comes down to it's firepower. Most Dagon builds now are 99% shield power. Unloaded a full ultimate avenger clip into one the other day plus ultimate Jun breath and it barely did anything. |
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Post by killmenow on Jul 20, 2024 17:21:02 GMT -5
the dagon its self is not the problem really ....any braindead fool can kill it (well most anyways lol) the problem is the number of weapon slots + addon to that all these new weapons ...hell because i play smart i kill dagons in my dagon all the time ...it comes down to it's firepower. Most Dagon builds now are 99% shield power. Unloaded a full ultimate avenger clip into one the other day plus ultimate Jun breath and it barely did anything. mine isn't - here's my build , it can be very very hard to kill top this off with with frozen scorn to dot multiple or hidden targets ...you got a absolute beast....this is the one bot i did 6.5m damage in the other day when i posted that game of my 1 bot hanger     |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 21, 2024 2:09:39 GMT -5
Most Dagon builds now are 99% shield power. mine isn't - here's my build , it can be very very hard to kill top this off with with frozen scorn to dot multiple or hidden targets ...you got a absolute beast....this is the one bot i did 6.5m damage in the other day when i posted that game of my 1 bot hanger With unstable conduit available now for "only" 35 power cells, it now comes down to sheer damage output and health pool. 6 light weapons are still tough but the low health means I'm winning 80% of one on ones against dagons now the shield is not a factor. |
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