You know it's time for a beatdown

to be honest, the algorithm is all over the place. For the hell of it I been running my 3,4 and 5 hangars, mostly older spider bots, one hangar of invaders, and all the other crawlers. Not tanking, just running other stuff for a change. For a laugh, I put in all skyros and one weyland, and I would still place top 3 on the team. And thats with only 2 leveled but nothing for pilot skill or modules or drone. And majority of mk1 weps, no meta, Bare bones on all. And if I can come in first working with my all healer hangar in champs then I KNOW the algorithm is off.

Ding dong huh. I have noticed in my time throughout life that people call me names when I’m right and they are on the defensive. So thank you for that.

Now back to the issue at hand. A “meta” hangar does not in and of itself give one a higher wining percentage. Be that a partial or full hangar. One must possess a decent amount of actual skill to pull off wins that otherwise would not exist. But meta overcomes many another lesser hangars for sure.

I also did not say that you ran a FULL meta hangar. You possess the most important elements of it though. Currie and Eiffel. Fast, tough, major firepower. Plus, if you can count, I only listed 4 or possibly 5 robots. That would not be a full hangar amount. But I’m just a ding dong, so go figure.

The Currie and Eiffel are so stupidly OP that no other bots are needed in most games. And if you don’t have those two you are at a major disadvantage. All top ten legend players have both in their hangar. I wonder why that is?

Now there is no way for me/us to scientifically prove the 50% win rate theory. We don’t have access to the actual algorithm, but there is enough empirical evidence to at the very least lend itself towards a highly probable 50% win rate theory. For MOST of us.

Here’s an experiment you can do. Remove ALL of the meta in your hangar, play for 6 months the same way you have been playing and report back. I’ll bet dollars to doorknobs that your win rate will NOT be above 50% for the whole time. Yes I know that won’t “prove” anything in your eyes, but it would be the nearest that we/you could get.

I’m not mad, just having a conversation. I suppose I came off a bit confrontational in my first post; I apologize for that, but I stand by my position.

The beatdown is real. 5 losses in a row and getting games like this.....

But it's purely in your imagination. Pixonic and other game developers would never matchmake in such a way as to create a desire to purchase power.

I'll take that challenge. Win percentages for steam players, top ten legend league players first:

54
62
84
82
64
84
52
64
52
90

Few players around where I'm at, Champions League 22:

88
72
50
54
42 <- That's me
68
36
56
44
40

I also took liberty to view hangars of those with >60% WL in my league above, all those are the ones that have maxed out curies, raptors and/or dagons. 

And btw, if somebody thinks that every legend league player should have >70% WL then I haste to inform that that's not how this process works. WL is I believe 50 game running average, so mere statistical variation dictates that even top players will have periods where the average drops. Still, anything above 50% to me is great.  

Edit: Holy smokes, #10 in steam's LL has a longest win streak of 371 victories. 

You can say that even that is misleading, this is hangar of one of the gents with 88% win rate in Champions League 22:



Possibly a person that could be in LL, just doesn't feel like playing too much. Or just got some of the bots and is in the process of climbing the leagues. Of course this is just a snapshot, to get a better view we'd need full data with some objective measure of how meta each hangar is. 

Leveled up to MK 2.1, a drone for your Ravana, and higher pilot skills and that's a Champs hangar no sweat. Might need to swap out for a bit stronger titan though.  So, I'm not sure you're proving the point that better gear doesn't mean better win rate. Note that this smurf is also 74% victory rate, and 32 out of 34 items are T4.

I'd have to say that even if leveled this hangar would barely reach Champions League, and if for some reason progressed further then it would be in world of hurt. I know, because I have similar hangar (including nodens, level 124) and I'm the 20's win percentage currently with ~5700 cups. I have seen multiple hangars such as those obliterated by one maxed out curie, for example. If you are well in Champions League without at least one dagon, curie, shenlou or etc and of course decent titan then get ready to be stomped.  

But I think we might be arguing apples and oranges here. If somebody's solution to low win pct is to start a new account and beat up on the newbies in lower leagues by using his accumulated War Robots experience, then sure, no disagreement there. That will get your percentage up without spending much. That's not something I'd do, because I'd rather be in Champions League with bloodied lip than be a master of kiddie pool. 

Leaving that option aside, staying competitive in Champions League requires major spending imo. I can fully disclose that I have spent do far about 90$ in 2-3 months on upgrades to my old hangar, which was in Champions League before sliding way down. Sure, large portion of that spending was sentimental, such as buying gold/Pt to rush  upgrading nodens, tyr or mender. But if anybody is  curious how close to meta I am after spending that much, then I hasten to report that I just got one porthos and have about 4500 components for dagon. That's about it. 

Yup, I was asking because I did the same thing: opened some gold chests and almost immediately "won" two pantagruels. I'm not a new player but for some unknown reason instead of asking myself why Pixonic is giving them away so freely I equipped both and leveled them. Because you know, since they are tier 4 they have to be good, right? 

And after spending all that Pt I check the stats and realize I would have been better off sticking with 「fluffernutter」ing retaliators.