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Post by Koalabear on Apr 24, 2024 10:40:59 GMT -5
Ok, I saw this thing available for Acoins and picked it up. It was at R4 and I've ranked it to R5 for now and am pausing here since I was focused on maxing Seeker first.
But...now what?
I have purple implants for damage and range for the EG. But I don't have Neev and my gold pilot for CQ is set on Surge with AT implants that are all highly leveled.
So...do I just use G-Lock? Do I wait for Neev? Part of me thinks G-Lock simply because as a surprise ambusher, most of my attacks will be from behind so the Legendary pilot won't give that much benefit. G-Lock is only at R5 and I can bring him to R6 easily with 7k pilot marks which I have. Just wondering if it's worth the investment.
What would you guys do?
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 24, 2024 16:49:47 GMT -5
I currently use G-Lock, although I am thinking of switching down the road. I think G-Lock should work fine for Seeker, because you'll always be doing back or side damage, like you said. You might need to fire twice for some mechs with side damage, but you have shields so it should be alright.
Where G-Lock falls short is with other mechs. I use him on Eclipse, and combined with only having purple implants, it can take up to 4 rounds to finish off an enemy. When I get enough scrap, I'll switch to Myna myself. I am even thinking of spending real $ on implants to get the gold ones for Ember. Never done that before, but they seem kinda worth it and are cheaper b/c there are only two.
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Post by reconnecting on Apr 25, 2024 14:45:35 GMT -5
I would go with what I have rather than wait.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 29, 2024 4:07:57 GMT -5
Speak of the devil! The Legendary Implants 2x Chance.modifier they got running was extra kind to me. Snagged the gold Ember DMG implant with today's first free crate!. Going to be a while before I have the scrap to level and use it, but man this is awesome!
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 29, 2024 8:42:29 GMT -5
Wow nice!
I've got my EG12 to the point where I just need 1800 acoins to rank it up to R6 and clone it. But, I'm gonna hold off of that. I have enough acoins and I suppose I can run it on Eclipse or Surge for now just to get a feel for it...
But, I need 8k acoins to max my Seeker, so I'm going to save up for that. My reasoning is that it takes a very long time to get 8k acoins but getting 1800 is a cinch. So better to go for the bigger wait first.
But...if I spend the 1800 acoins now, I can start using it...
But...I only have purple implants and a purple pilot and don't really want to disassemble Mina and my AT12 implants...
But...lately I've been feeling the pinch with AT12s due to the drastically reduced max range. I used to be able to hit targets out to 60m, which made my Surge very versatile and I could engage reds sometimes without having to dash in. But, lately, dashing is the only way to get into AT range, and if that's the case, the EGs should out-DPS the ATs.
Plus...I recently got humbled by an Eclipse running maxed EG12s. It gave me traumatic flashbacks to the Magnum Gepard days of War Robots!
Hmmmm...
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 29, 2024 11:16:06 GMT -5
Just watched this video. Basically, fully maxed, the EG12 kills a bit faster than AT12, but the AT12 does full damage out to 44m now, whereas the EG has to be up close and personal. Based on this, I would normally declare the AT the overall winner, but have to remember that you don't need to get the red brackets on your target in order to hit it with EG. This is big, especially when running it on the Seeker or running and gunning with Eclipse.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 29, 2024 13:28:56 GMT -5
EG12 is definitely the better weapon. You can instakill an enemy, weave through cover while reloading, and you don't have to keep the target on them the whole time. I am barely playing my AT12s and that seems to be the case with most endgamers.
I feel ultra-jinxed when it comes to saying a pilot should come out soon. Perhaps the reverse will hold as well, because I don't think we'll see a close-in pilot for a bit. Revoker is being rolled out and it is apparently almost as good as the Ember Guns, so I imagine they'll milk as much real $ as they can off people buying Neev or the chihuahua before they release it in-game.
Generally my rule is to prioritize tourney earnings in my upgrades, which these days mostly means the best earners for the FFA maps. Overall that is EG12 which is built for FFA/5v5/2v2 far more than for CPC. Seeker doesn't seem like the best tourney mech, BUT it is useful taking out human opponents. Also, it does well in the first FFA map, where folks just sit in the spawn shoot up high and teleport around from there. I don't think it actually earns points fast enough in most matches, but it tends to take the top spot in matches against 3 other human players. And if you're facing a particularly troublesome player who keeps targeting you, then it could be good to have in the mix.
I guess the question would be are there particular days/particular maps you try to earn on and if you feel Embers would help you do it quicker. If grinding isn't important or your setup is good enough for now, then focusing on Seeker is fine. Sometimes you definitely do just have to decide to go for it and just focus on one mech til you get it done.
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 29, 2024 14:00:53 GMT -5
I tend to prefer CPC games over TDM matches. While I am doing better now in FFA games, I still do not like this mode very much. When I do play it, my top mechs are RG12 Eclipse, AT12 Surge and RG16 Guardian.
I feel like I should wait to see if I can get the gold EG damage implant before I pour any more resources into this...sigh...IDK. Maybe I'm just having a hard time letting go of my AT12s. They were solid for so long and are still very good weapons.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 30, 2024 0:49:20 GMT -5
If CPC is your priority then go do Seeker first. It is much better for that mode than Ember. Also, while I think it's a total fluke that I won the gold Ember DMG implant (I rarely see gold DMG implants), you're looking at like 10k in A-Coins to level Seeker and then EG12. That will take long enough that maybe the Revoker rush will be over and a gold pilot will drop.
AT12s are still good enough. But Surge RG12 is the best Surge setup AND the best RG12 setup.
As reference, here are some of my faves right now for FFA maps:
Freeside:
Eclipse EG12
Surge RG12
Guardian RG16
Panther EMR16
Atlas Foyer:
Eclipse EG12
Surge RG12
Panther RG16
Gatecrasher EMR16 or Orion EMR12
Red Shift:
Eclipse EG12 (MG12 seems to work well too)
Surge RG12 (AT12 is solid too)
Gatecrasher EMR16
Onyx RG16 (great for spawning in bottom right corner)
Panther MG16 (not popular but actually great if you have levelled pilots)
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 30, 2024 7:04:40 GMT -5
We're gonna have to disagree on the best Surge and best RG12 setup! LOL! I still love my Eclipse with RG12...even though I now split time with that and NL12 on the Eclipse.
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