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Post by T34 on Apr 8, 2024 19:47:05 GMT -5
pixonic.com/en/posts/733I think this number refers to all time downloads. However, 30M new users during the past year is an interesting number. Seems like they have enough new players coming through. Would explain the squeeze on F2Ps, the current league points systems and the rapid release nerf cycle. Pix can play the game of retaining the spenders and getting rid of the F2Ps since they have heaps coming through.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Apr 9, 2024 2:05:34 GMT -5
Yes they are "frightening" numbers if true. Puts it into perspective when a measly 4000 signed the petition for change.
BTW, I thought the thread title was about how many players are sitting on 250mil+ in silver stashes. Since the last great robbery regarding the MK2 price increase, I have found myself with larger silver supplies than ever. Refusing to spend it on exorbitant upgrade costs only for the item to get nerfed a month or so later.
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Post by tabbylion on Apr 9, 2024 4:48:04 GMT -5
The player pool in champs is large enough that I rarely bump into forum members anymore and I only face full squads when I solo during the updates when Android and iOS is segregated. In fact I rarely bump into the same group of people like I used to. Is it possible that the user base has actually increased?
To the really long time players, the soul of the game is dead but the game itself probably isn’t dying.
For the newer players that only know of the meta arms race….that’s War Robots they signed up for and they lap it up.
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Post by dinnerplain on Apr 9, 2024 6:51:26 GMT -5
2.5 billion mwatches, 250 million registered players.
That's only 10 matches per player, on average.
Oh wait, 1 match has 12 players, so a player lasts less than 120 matches.
That would mean the average player doesn't make it past the introduction of pilots/titans (early 20s level.)
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Post by BB on Apr 9, 2024 6:52:50 GMT -5
I still have a hard time believing that thousands of noobcakes are flooding into this game at the 10 year mark. VERY SUS IMO.
I suspect that a sizable chunk of the new players are just old players that left the game a few years ago, cleansed their pallets and started new accounts with new names and all new meta gear. And how many of these cycles have these players gone thru? An elaborate recycling program concocted by the evil pix AI?
If pix truly wanted to remove skill from the game years ago, then thatâs a ton of old jaded players from the golden age who kicked 「bum-bum」 for a bit, got screwed and humbled, then quit for a bit, and returned to an almost unrecognizable game where the new meta is degrees faster and more powerful than ANYTHING they remember.
And then thereâs the matter of the AI created bots filling out the rigged matches â¦
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Post by dinnerplain on Apr 9, 2024 8:58:26 GMT -5
And then thereâÂÂs the matter of the AI created bots filling out the rigged matches â¦
I don't think their AI created bots. If they were, the AI would created by Pixonic would follow Pixonic's rules. The AI created bots don't follow those rules.
I think they're just playes that don't give a 「fluffernutter」
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Post by Typhon Johnny on Apr 9, 2024 9:12:34 GMT -5
I can say i've definately seen " scripted " bots running around. Ai bots seem rather likely.
10 years in and yeah i can see it getting the downloads...but the player lifespan is likely shorter with the more aggressive cycle.
Pix has the numbers and the math worked out.
Ill know their numbers are low when we see some advertising. I watch the reviews on google play also... Few months ago...lots of high ratings from the noobs... Recently they are not impressed.... Most reviews revolve around gameplay and gloss over the ptw factor.
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Post by Max Bacon on Apr 9, 2024 12:24:09 GMT -5
I still have a hard time believing that thousands of noobcakes are flooding into this game at the 10 year mark. VERY SUS IMO. I suspect that a sizable chunk of the new players are just old players that left the game a few years ago, cleansed their pallets and started new accounts with new names and all new meta gear. And how many of these cycles have these players gone thru? An elaborate recycling program concocted by the evil pix AI? If pix truly wanted to remove skill from the game years ago, then thatâs a ton of old jaded players from the golden age who kicked 「bum-bum」 for a bit, got screwed and humbled, then quit for a bit, and returned to an almost unrecognizable game where the new meta is degrees faster and more powerful than ANYTHING they remember. And then thereâs the matter of the AI created bots filling out the rigged matches â¦
There was a deathmatch based leaderboard a couple days ago, so I went for the golden dorito with an old smurf account (no playing the main account during April, fool!). The key strategy was to just facehug for a minute, while all the scripted bots shot their hurricanes then exited the match. Thus leaving about 2-4 players on each team to actually battle away. This was Every. Single. Match. My league was Silver 1 transitioning to Gold 3. Most of these "players" had thousands of match wins, and fairly nice hangars. My assumption is that they were simultaneously farming and tanking. All were either PC or Android. Domination matches didn't follow this pattern nearly as rigorously.
The prevalence of AI bots died about the time I hit Silver league.
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Post by dinnerplain on Apr 9, 2024 16:19:16 GMT -5
I can say i've definately seen " scripted " bots running around. Ai bots seem rather likely. 10 years in and yeah i can see it getting the downloads...but the player lifespan is likely shorter with the more aggressive cycle. Pix has the numbers and the math worked out. Ill know their numbers are low when we see some advertising. I watch the reviews on google play also... Few months ago...lots of high ratings from the noobs... Recently they are not impressed.... Most reviews revolve around gameplay and gloss over the ptw factor.
This year I have started seeing ads for War Robots ... while watching ads to get free stuff in War Robots.
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Post by dinnerplain on Apr 9, 2024 17:01:19 GMT -5
Does the 2.5 billion matches include those on the test server?
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 9, 2024 19:03:07 GMT -5
2.5 billion mwatches, 250 million registered players. That's only 10 matches per player, on average. Oh wait, 1 match has 12 players, so a player lasts less than 120 matches. That would mean the average player doesn't make it past the introduction of pilots/titans (early 20s level.) ^^^THIS^^^  |
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 9, 2024 19:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by killmenow on Apr 9, 2024 19:26:00 GMT -5
in these statistics they often count banned accounts too , to boost the stats.
you have to consider how many hack accounts there are AND was , people repeatedly hacking getting banned only to make new accounts to hack on rinse repeat.
most games boost so called accounts created stats to give false impressions of player numbers and activity
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Post by easystrider on Apr 10, 2024 18:38:48 GMT -5
Yea, I cannot recall how many mobile/PC games I downloaded and discarded after playing less than few minutes. I would have showed up in those total download stats. And Pixo needs not only for people to stay but to care enough to start spending. I'd think they still do ok, but the churn rate must be crazy for them. On related note, recently came across those: socialblade.com/youtube/c/mannigamingsocialblade.com/youtube/c/adrianchongOnly estimates, and obviously not a direct indication of number of people playing but confirms what top youtubers have been saying, that the number of views has been dropping. Of course, it is possible people are switching preferences to a different content creator(s). But if that's the case, makes you wonder which War Robots content creator those millions of views went to. My take: Pixonic is gaining a lot of players that pad stats nicely, but lost a lot of dedicated players that played a lot and paid. Might be wrong though. Edit: Heck, I look at my own pattern of playing: download the War Robots on steam maybe few times a year and play extermination for a bit. (my hangar is no longer suited for a real game) If there will be too many players like me Pixo will go out of business. |
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