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Post by 0megaman on Jan 24, 2024 20:00:50 GMT -5
My son has been somewhat frustrated having been rushed into Masters3 despite a notable losing streak. After the update finally made it rounds, he was being thrown into matches where the hangar is pretty out-classed by most in Masters.
As it occurrs to me, Pigsonic really cheats players any place it can, and many players cheat, or buy their way to freely bully whomever... I see no reason to play by any given rules at this point, Pig' certainly doesnt, and doesnt care as long as $$$ isnt affected.
My PC is on my desk, but I use a laptop for work, so I've been casually joining matches then doing nothing I keep doing my regular work, and let he match go on. If reds are winning I let it ride, if blues are winning, I bail on the match and find another. So far I've been able to get it knocked back into Expert. Kinda sucks having to do it, but Pigsonic leaves no choice, and since they unethically created the situation to begin with, its the thing to do.
Go REDS GO!
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Post by donetotally on Jan 24, 2024 20:52:57 GMT -5
I have no problem with it, fully understand, because when the game becomes unplayable and no fun, what choice are you left with. Also if you have no way of winning, no-one wants to be cannon fodder for hackers and spenders. Only bad thing about it, if you have boosters, it does waste those, but that's something you can deal with, no one else's business really.
I say tank away, but you may need to drop way down and also the way it's set up, you may need to lose 2 to every good game you win (if you finish first, you can win up to 25 points, sometimes more). Tanking and playing when you reach a level you can play at, can certainly be a challenge and very quickly you can be right back to masters with the way pixonic has it set up.
Not endorsing tanking to anyone, but I fully understand the frustration, and when people tank to get to a level for a better play experience, I get it.. but to tank to exploit smaller players, I certainly have a problem with that, not naming a certain country, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who can see what country seems to have the most players that tank to exploit others.
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Post by T34 on Jan 24, 2024 23:36:02 GMT -5
Ohh what.... you are joining 80% of the players in expert and masters?
But be mindful, the LPQ may still exist. If it does, there would be triggers for it.
I spun up a new account for giggles. Wanted to play with beginner bots. Got a cossack and a patton. Hit Level 4, the Ai bots vanished and i was playing against lancelots, striders, ravens, blitzes and heaps of tier 3 bots. Towards the end of the game when i was still alive (lots of hiding) at Level 5, the damned titans came, Kids and even an Aether. The red who topped the table on the winning side was in Silver 2. This is all screwed up. One mk3 ocho in expert or Masters is not as significant as a Level 30 Aether when going up against a cossack and patton with punishers. I dont think Pix cares much about who they are matching.
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Post by killmenow on Jan 24, 2024 23:43:13 GMT -5
while i despise tankers , i'm not talking about average players with mediocre hangers who simply can't compete so drop down , i despise those who spend hundreds or more than tank down and can and do clear game after game with little to no effort such as those running multiple max ultimates or max mk3 meta hangers....
i have in the past out of pure spite dropped down simply to burn them to the ground .....i don't have a meta hanger or maxed hanger but i can play very very well when i want too .....quite often back in those days i'd have tankers trying to hunt me down for killing on their bots and in doing so they lose more if not all of them lol and end up losing again and again so much so that whenever they saw me playing they'd just opt out.
when i did this i'd ignore lower level players as they where not an issue (no firing back at all) or if there where no tankers i'd just hang around maybe cap a beacon or two here and there.
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 25, 2024 0:35:42 GMT -5
LMAO! There is no end to Pigsonics ridiculousness... So after a while tonight, the game finally got pissed off and put the account in the 'low priority queue' for "numerous exits from battles". They will take measures to deal with something silly like this, and yet will do nothing against cheaters/hackers who truly ruin the game.
Thank you Pigsonic, for continuing to prove how hostile you really are to the player base.
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Post by killmenow on Jan 25, 2024 1:21:09 GMT -5
LMAO! There is no end to Pigsonics ridiculousness... So after a while tonight, the game finally got pissed off and put the account in the 'low priority queue' for "numerous exits from battles". They will take measures to deal with something silly like this, and yet will do nothing against cheaters/hackers who truly ruin the game. Thank you Pigsonic, for continuing to prove how hostile you really are to the player base. here's a hint how i USED TO , join game and if it's bridge or acid map jump off in all bots game done - still counts as a game but negative points lol
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Post by T34 on Jan 25, 2024 3:08:47 GMT -5
LMAO! There is no end to Pigsonics ridiculousness... So after a while tonight, the game finally got pissed off and put the account in the 'low priority queue' for "numerous exits from battles". They will take measures to deal with something silly like this, and yet will do nothing against cheaters/hackers who truly ruin the game. Thank you Pigsonic, for continuing to prove how hostile you really are to the player base. When they first introduced the LPQ, some went in deliberately. It had full rewards and with a decent hanger resource farming was easy. However, one had to be prepared to face any hanger strength. But then pix cut the rewards and deliberately made wait times very long. The party was over. Anyhow, leaving games before all bots are used, not dropping in and not scoring were the most notable triggers. Even disconnections counted as leaving a game. Years ago if u left 17 games in a row, you would land in the LPQ. There were different penalties depending on the number of times you have entered. The first visit required a relatively few clean games to get out. Second one was more severe and the penalty just went up. To get out, ensure you have only clean games. Every bad game will compound your problem. Best way to exit is using skirmish or squadding with someone who is not in the LPQ. Never leave a game early. Lots of players script their participation but periodically Pix gets rid of them all. And I mean all. So don’t go there even if you have the technical knowledge.
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Post by BB on Jan 25, 2024 7:04:50 GMT -5
LMAO! There is no end to Pigsonics ridiculousness... So after a while tonight, the game finally got pissed off and put the account in the 'low priority queue' for "numerous exits from battles". They will take measures to deal with something silly like this, and yet will do nothing against cheaters/hackers who truly ruin the game. Thank you Pigsonic, for continuing to prove how hostile you really are to the player base. So the LPQ still exists? Myself and others I know have been leaving more and more games as of late for numerous reasons. I guess my time in the time out pen is coming soon 😂. Let us know when, if ever, you get out. I am sincerely interested in how it’s operating these days
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Post by Eradicator1 on Jan 25, 2024 13:35:28 GMT -5
Yes. Lpq still exists. The wait time was stupid long. I never got a game even after waiting 40 minutes. So I played skirmish and got out.
Took a month break from the game cause I was dismayed at the state of the game. When I came back, if I saw a stupid unkillable ocho in our spawn. I left. That happened a Lot of times till I went to the lpq for my first time ever. Now it seems like the games are better and with less BS. And I have the highest win rate I’ve ever had. Go figure. Lol
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 25, 2024 14:28:27 GMT -5
It let me play 1 game of Dom, and I was out of LPQ. Now simply changing the tanking technique, so thanks for the tips everyone.
Matchmaker is still rigging things, trying to get the account to advance in leagues. It is amazing how many more winning teams its joining now, lol. *sigh* pathetic.
Its pretty clear that if Pig' assigns you as cannon fodder, youre going to be cannon fodder whether you like or not, and if you choose not to be, you are punished. Again, pathetic.
There is no depth of lowness they wont go...
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 25, 2024 14:49:23 GMT -5
I have no problem with it, fully understand, because when the game becomes unplayable and no fun, what choice are you left with. Also if you have no way of winning, no-one wants to be cannon fodder for hackers and spenders. Only bad thing about it, if you have boosters, it does waste those, but that's something you can deal with, no one else's business really. I say tank away, but you may need to drop way down and also the way it's set up, you may need to lose 2 to every good game you win (if you finish first, you can win up to 25 points, sometimes more). Tanking and playing when you reach a level you can play at, can certainly be a challenge and very quickly you can be right back to masters with the way pixonic has it set up. Not endorsing tanking to anyone, but I fully understand the frustration, and when people tank to get to a level for a better play experience, I get it.. but to tank to exploit smaller players, I certainly have a problem with that, not naming a certain country, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who can see what country seems to have the most players that tank to exploit others. There's a rule in the CoC against posting about tanking. However... I have no intention of enforcing it. Why? Like you kind of say above, Pix acts with little to no honor why should you be obligated to? A couple/few months ago I was ranting about quitting matches as i saw fit. Pix does what they want, I/we can do what we want. There are those that would say that quitting/tanking is without honor, this is a fleeting illusion. You will only let down your team for a scant 7 minutes and then all is forgotten. The short attention span player base have already forgotten your tanking ways and are pursuing the next win. It is NO secret: :Pix is pushing everybody up into a higher league to provide more whale fodder and it's not fair. The one thing I would say againt tanking is that if you're running meta gear you shouldn't tank. If you're runing non-meta stuff and you want a semblance of a fair fight, tank as necessary.
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Post by Endobot on Jan 25, 2024 15:38:34 GMT -5
A little post I made on another site where someone, obviously not happy about quitters, raised the matter of the LPQ and posted the official Pix blurb on it. The 4 parts being: What can I get in the Low Priority Queue for? How do I get out? How do I know if I`m in the Low Priority Queue? and What is the Low Priority Queue?
My contribution to the thread (below) seems appropriate for this one:
What is the Purpose of Low Priority Queue?
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Low Priority Queue is a separate matchmaking queue that has been put in place to punish and dissuade commanders from leaving battles once they realise that they have been purposefully matched against far stronger players who have spent large amounts of money on the game in order to get all the most ridiculously over powered latest stuff that is introduce each and every month. Those that don`t spend such large amounts of money with each new event should not expect to have a fun game - they are solely provided as, and are now pushed up the leagues quickly to become, cannon fodder for those that do and who have hangars full of all the latest new ridiculously over powered stuff so that they can feel great and all conquering and that their money was well spent.
Commanders wanting an evenly matched game and not willing to just be cannon fodder as described above are placed in the Low Priority Queue so that they may take some time out and contemplate and reflect on their decision to not play their part in the monetization strategies.
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 25, 2024 16:58:38 GMT -5
What is the Purpose of Low Priority Queue? Follow Low Priority Queue is a separate matchmaking queue that has been put in place to punish and dissuade commanders from leaving battles once they realise that they have been purposefully matched against far stronger players who have spent large amounts of money on the game in order to get all the most ridiculously over powered latest stuff that is introduce each and every month. Those that don`t spend such large amounts of money with each new event should not expect to have a fun game - they are solely provided as, and are now pushed up the leagues quickly to become, cannon fodder for those that do and who have hangars full of all the latest new ridiculously over powered stuff so that they can feel great and all conquering and that their money was well spent. Commanders wanting an evenly matched game and not willing to just be cannon fodder as described above are placed in the Low Priority Queue so that they may take some time out and contemplate and reflect on their decision to not play their part in the monetization strategies.
TRUTH.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 25, 2024 17:06:59 GMT -5
When the leagues reset at the start of each season I find myself up against players down in expert all the way up to champs.
Sadly, a large number of the lower league players seem to be tanking/clubbing so it's the lesser of 2 evils for me to just stay in champ league.
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 25, 2024 19:11:45 GMT -5
Get'n some pretty good tanking in today so far. I accidentally got a kill (sorry about that, whoever you are), totally bizarre as it was the ability from my Orochi as I was rushing into death as fast as possible. Already down to Expert2.
Some of the players are genuinely confused as I rush right into their face and then just stand there waiting to get vaporized. One red actually walked away from me, lol.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Jan 25, 2024 23:17:21 GMT -5
As an outsider (stopped participating in PIX's madness some months ago) it is interesting how attitudes have changed around tanking or dropping out of games. As Oliver Kloesov points out years ago this thread would have faced outrage and derision let alone being banned. I took some pride in NEVER dropping out despite the cheating, tanking, matchmaking or any other insanity. Took my beating with a smile.
Now... different world.
Find myself nodding my head to all the above points and frustrations.
I still feel like tanking (dropping from Masters to Expert for example) is futile. When I stopped chasing META I dropped like a rock from Champions all they way down to Masters 3 and Expert. I found ZERO difference in matchmaking or quality of play (lack there of...) Same old same old... just less rewards.
Now... dropping out of a game in the first 30 seconds when you see a full squad of CHN folks or META flash dance. 1,000%... I'm gone. Not wasting my time.
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Post by killmenow on Jan 25, 2024 23:20:04 GMT -5
Get'n some pretty good tanking in today so far. I accidentally got a kill (sorry about that, whoever you are), totally bizarre as it was the ability from my Orochi as I was rushing into death as fast as possible. Already down to Expert2. Some of the players are genuinely confused as I rush right into their face and then just stand there waiting to get vaporized. One red actually walked away from me, lol. i had a game yesterday were i had to go afk lol spawns in in my skyros ...rolls to first beacon then i had to go do something in real life lol.......came back 30 seconds or so before it ended to find 4 enemies still trying to kill it and my hp at about 75% while still on the beacon i capped
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Post by T34 on Jan 26, 2024 0:43:20 GMT -5
As an outsider (stopped participating in PIX's madness some months ago) it is interesting how attitudes have changed around tanking or dropping out of games. As Oliver Kloesov points out years ago this thread would have faced outrage and derision let alone being banned. I took some pride in NEVER dropping out despite the cheating, tanking, matchmaking or any other insanity. Took my beating with a smile. Now... different world. Find myself nodding my head to all the above points and frustrations. I still feel like tanking (dropping from Masters to Expert for example) is futile. When I stopped chasing META I dropped like a rock from Champions all they way down to Masters 3 and Expert. I found ZERO difference in matchmaking or quality of play (lack there of...) Same old same old... just less rewards. Now... dropping out of a game in the first 30 seconds when you see a full squad of CHN folks or META flash dance. 1,000%... I'm gone. Not wasting my time. There isn’t much difference between masters and experts or even many low champs atm imo. I think that’s the optimal matchmaking zone now if someone plays with the intent of not always doing as much damage as possible. All tier 3 and 4 bots are viable and there is no need to have gear pushed past 1.12. If diamonds enter the MMing zone then the game quality seems to plummet.
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Post by T34 on Jan 26, 2024 0:50:02 GMT -5
Get'n some pretty good tanking in today so far. I accidentally got a kill (sorry about that, whoever you are), totally bizarre as it was the ability from my Orochi as I was rushing into death as fast as possible. Already down to Expert2. Some of the players are genuinely confused as I rush right into their face and then just stand there waiting to get vaporized. One red actually walked away from me, lol. There are some who won’t shoot tankers. But the funniest thing is when 5 tankers meet in FFA and noone is willing to kill the other and all are forced to hang around for 10 mins.
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Post by donetotally on Jan 26, 2024 7:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah like Oliver said, sure it can hurt the team, but to be honest, not as often as we think.. We did play one today, sure we could of used an extra kill or two or 1 or two beacons, it was that close, we would of won that one for sure,.., but most of the time, reds has a tanker or two also... So it kind of evens out.
But I will say this, the worst thing about the game is hackers... I'm going to post one in a minute, this guy killed alot of our team and killed 3 of my bots, this changes the game entirely to unwinnable.
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 26, 2024 12:12:20 GMT -5
I dont tank in Beacon based matches at all. I do occasionally see tankers there, but most of the time people are trying to genuinely cap and play properly. MM seems to be a little more even-handed in those matches. TDM, most players are a waste of space these days, the 'T' in TDM being lost on them, nevermind the consistently lopsided line-ups.
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Post by 079 on Jan 26, 2024 13:02:27 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov You are not alone, I have been facing a lack of motivation to enforce the CoC’s policies on tanking here too. I still think tanking is bad because it is simply unsportsmanlike and whoever does it seriously should find better uses of their time (the logic that you are tanking to spite Pixonic because they do not care or notice is self-contradictory), but have largely accepted that I am just old-fashioned. As I said in my Depressed Veterans Club thread last year, Pixonic has really made it hard to encourage people to have fun through non-cynical means. I personally think that if someone is leaving 75% of their matches in the first two minutes, he/she should really take break from the game, but it seems trying to preach good manners in this game would just stir the pot, crazy as crazy as that is to say. Boy am I happy to not have Twitter or Facebook!
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 26, 2024 14:26:15 GMT -5
........I still think tanking is bad because it is simply unsportsmanlike and whoever does it seriously should find better uses of their time (the logic that you are tanking to spite Pixonic because they do not care or notice is self-contradictory), but have largely accepted that I am just old-fashioned. As I said in my Depressed Veterans Club thread last year, Pixonic has really made it hard to encourage people to have fun through non-cynical means. I personally think that if someone is leaving 75% of their matches in the first two minutes, he/she should really take break from the game, but it seems trying to preach good manners in this game would just stir the pot, crazy as crazy as that is to say. Boy am I happy to not have Twitter or Facebook!
I agree, its not my first choice to do either, and in the past I have genuinely despised the practice, and still do for those that use it to exploit others in lower leagues. I changed my mind in a limited way after watching my Son move rapidly from Expert3 all the way to Masters3 for absolutely NO reason, it wasnt warranted by any measure or metric. Then being instantly destroyed at any attempt at playing while in Masters simply wasnt fun, and to compound the issue, was quickly approaching Masters2 despite the losses, again for no valid reason.
The only way to back out of that horrid, artificially created situation is to tank out of it... or rather than back out of it, just stop playing.
Spending money is only a temporary mitigation, as Pig' will eventually screw you out of that too.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 26, 2024 15:56:34 GMT -5
Now... dropping out of a game in the first 30 seconds when you see a full squad of CHN folks or META flash dance. 1,000%... I'm gone. Not wasting my time. Lots of great points above from many including 079 ... But the quote above really resonates with me. Lately, if I start getting muted 2 and 3 times in the first 3 minutes of the match... It's likely I'm out. Stick your mute right up where it doesn't belong.
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Post by 0megaman on Jan 30, 2024 22:41:17 GMT -5
We managed to knock the account back a bit, its hovering between Diamond1 and Expert3 right now. I told my Son to just a play a regular match and see what happens. To both our surprise, it was a very even match, well fought and was a close-call for a while...
Said it was the best match he's ever had, lol.
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Max Bacon
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Posts: 90
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Pilot name: Max Bacon
Platform: iOS
Clan: Bad Eggs
League: Champion
Favorite robot: Loki
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Post by Max Bacon on Feb 2, 2024 23:36:30 GMT -5
As you're now in an appropriate league, now would be a good time to set up a beacon running hangar. Loki is the trickster robot, and has put more smiles on my face than any other bot. Play full out, and let your team mates either take advantage of the fact that you've just done 3 laps between home and left beacon on Yamantau, or not. Plus, sneaking up and unloading into the back of a stealthed Crisis is halla fun.
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