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Post by Method Games[YT] on Dec 5, 2023 23:18:13 GMT -5
There's another post going round at the moment about how good the Typhon is in the current meta but after running this thing for the past week or so, I'm going to go out and say that the Ravana is the breaker of meta hearts worldwide. I am consistently getting beyond godlikes and annoying even maxed out Ochos with this thing. Get yeeted in the air by a Newton? No problem if you have banked your transcendence abilities. But the overall kicker is (and I have a feeling this is an oversight by Pixonic), the new rust weapons and DOT weapons get "washed" away each time you transcend which is a huge advantage if you are also running those weapons against the meta. This is the build I'm running which is somewhat ghetto spec but it works until I can get my hands on another Damper weapon.   |
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Post by munkeeee on Dec 5, 2023 23:25:06 GMT -5
another PITA build to put meta in its place. Tough builds I am seeing, I dig it. Anything that spits in the eye of the meta I am all for.
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Post by gus169 on Dec 5, 2023 23:59:11 GMT -5
Ghetto is cool bro. Keep the pulsar  |
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Post by BB on Dec 6, 2023 5:44:27 GMT -5
Ghetto spec 😆
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Dec 6, 2023 6:00:18 GMT -5
Ravana is still an insane robot. A lot of people overlook the fact it negates the effects of the new weapons.
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Post by T34 on Dec 6, 2023 22:49:44 GMT -5
I think pix went too far and now and it is coming back to bite them. The new weapons are so strong that they work on practically anything. So much fire power from 600m is not balanced. I am gonna give a damper rog a go . These weapons introduced gaps everywhere. But this also means the next meta gear will have to out do the current if they wanna sell ‘em. Hold on to your hats. Also, if you spend but you don’t want the absolute strongest weapons, just buy the current meta gear when pads are reasonably priced and don’t level pas Mk1 12. It will out do all other gear even if mk3. Greed is turning out to be be a bit of a blessing. Ironic….. |
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Post by Schquirrelschak on Dec 7, 2023 16:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by dinnerplain on Dec 9, 2023 11:44:45 GMT -5
Also, if you spend but you don’t want the absolute strongest weapons, just buy the current meta gear when pads are reasonably priced and don’t level pas Mk1 12. It will out do all other gear even if mk3.
Just to be clear, your message is "if you don't spend then spend when you can get a bargain."
F2P don't spend, not even on reasonably priced things.
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Post by 079 on Dec 9, 2023 21:57:53 GMT -5
Also, if you spend but you don’t want the absolute strongest weapons, just buy the current meta gear when pads are reasonably priced and don’t level pas Mk1 12. It will out do all other gear even if mk3.
Just to be clear, your message is "if you don't spend then spend when you can get a bargain."
F2P don't spend, not even on reasonably priced things.
Not sure about that, the post begins with “if you spend”, so it is not about free players. There are people who spend but are not meta chasers, and I would know since I am one of them. |
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Post by T34 on Dec 14, 2023 19:26:53 GMT -5
Just to be clear, your message is "if you don't spend then spend when you can get a bargain."
F2P don't spend, not even on reasonably priced things.
Not sure about that, the post begins with âif you spendâ, so it is not about free players. There are people who spend but are not meta chasers, and I would know since I am one of them. Sorry to bring this older post back but better clarify. And it maybe worth while info for some. I used to be a F2P before I quit. Upon my return to the game, I started spending because i no longer willing to grind but want to play with new gear instead of waiting til 2030 to get my hands on an Ocho as an example. However, as correctly pointed out by 079 , I dont chase the meta because there is no intent to invest that much into the game. I buy things when the "customised offers" get to the best value. I monitor when the best value offers land by observing the prices on my non spending idle account and my playing account. As a heads up, to get the best value in this game there are several factors to observe: 1. prices are set by your purchasing behaviour. The more frequently you spend the higher the prices for the offers. 2. best offers come around after about 2 weeks of not spending. The difference between best and average offers is anywhere between 25% to 50% off! If you even spend the smallest amount you offers go back to low value the next day for about 2 weeks. 3. The worst thing you can do is buy really appealing small offers regularly because you will never get the best value on bigger items. EG, spend a few $ on 25,000 keys and then you will pay twice as much for pads. Dont fall for the low $ value meaningless offers. 4. Best time to buy things like pads is about 40% to 60% through the event time line. Prior to that the pricing is for whales who want to get their hands on the latest and greatest asap (so they pay a premium). When the pads get very cheap it seems like Pix nerfs the pay out. So waiting too long seems like false economy. 5. Microchips are very valuable. Maxed drones are incredibly powerful and OP. Once or so a month Pix will tempt you with a drone and chips in the "shopping cart". Thats the time to buy. 6. the diff between MK1 12 and MK3 is about 25%. It is a huge difference. But the marginal price to get gear from MK1 12 to MK3 is huge noting the fast rate of new content introduction. You get more value by maxing a kestrel and nuke amps as an example. Also as an example, i am happy with MK1 12 dampers and Tamers on my ocho as opposed to say MK3 needles and spikes. 7. Spend for different items in one hit when your most valued offer comes up. All you want may not be available but you will get most of what you want. Buy the low valued keys as an addition when you see the big value pad offer. Save the keys for the Leaderboards when the Black market spending is needed and you are likely to end up with Ultimate gear. Got about 7 UE weapons already. 8. Classic gear like Magnetars and Typhons are still very powerful. If you MK3 anything and not chasing the meta those are the ones to max. A mk3 Typhon with all the bling equipped with MK1 12 dampers is a nasty 「female dog」 even in todays meta (my bot is only MK1 12 and it is very usable in today's weakened Champions League). Magnetars on the other hand work very well on a Dagon. Yes, Tamers would probably be better but the difference is acceptable for a non meta chaser. Look and bet on classic gear. 9. Similar to above but somewhat different. Look for unbalanced new content and use it with what you have. As an example, Dampers are good on practically anything decent and an ocho with punishers is still gonna be formidable. The more Pixonic goes over the top with new content the more of these opportunities will arise and limit your investment needs. So on. But most of what i concentrate on is above. |
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Post by Jeb on Dec 15, 2023 9:53:48 GMT -5
I mean, I saw today a MK2 Lynx with MK2 stabbies and a legendary pilot for $7.
If they released a MK2 Raven with MK2-almost-anything weapons and a Nessa for that amount, I'd 99% spring for it, especially if they were weapons I didn't have yet, and I've got two MK3 Ravens already.
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Post by Schquirrelschak on Dec 15, 2023 13:23:19 GMT -5
I mean, I saw today a MK2 Lynx with MK2 stabbies and a legendary pilot for $7. If they released a MK2 Raven with MK2-almost-anything weapons and a Nessa for that amount, I'd 99% spring for it, especially if they were weapons I didn't have yet, and I've got two MK3 Ravens already. Have/do you run a Seeker on your birds? That built in permanent Quantum Radar has revitalized scourge/spark builds (+SB mod) for me in masters particularly against Ophions Between the Showdown, Kestral, and Seeker set-ups a strong drone game makes the Raven chassis a sleeper-meta-breaker. Ochos have a tough time keeping up if they themselves don't run it with a jump modual ime. I kinda want it to stay that way. |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Dec 15, 2023 17:29:29 GMT -5
Not sure about that, the post begins with âif you spendâ, so it is not about free players. There are people who spend but are not meta chasers, and I would know since I am one of them. Sorry to bring this older post back but better clarify. And it maybe worth while info for some. *Snip It's great to see that players still devote the time to produce this type of valuable information to share. The tips and advice section of the forums don't seem to be utilised much by the looks of it, but the game moves and updates so fast, it would be difficult to keep up. |
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Post by Jeb on Dec 18, 2023 18:29:37 GMT -5
I mean, I saw today a MK2 Lynx with MK2 stabbies and a legendary pilot for $7. If they released a MK2 Raven with MK2-almost-anything weapons and a Nessa for that amount, I'd 99% spring for it, especially if they were weapons I didn't have yet, and I've got two MK3 Ravens already. Have/do you run a Seeker on your birds? That built in permanent Quantum Radar has revitalized scourge/spark builds (+SB mod) for me in masters particularly against Ophions Between the Showdown, Kestral, and Seeker set-ups a strong drone game makes the Raven chassis a sleeper-meta-breaker. Ochos have a tough time keeping up if they themselves don't run it with a jump modual ime. I kinda want it to stay that way. No Seeker. I run a Reviver on my Nessa Raven and a Beak on my Otto Raven. I haven't tried Showdown on Nessa because I don't think it aligns as well with the Raven as it does with my Orochi, and the Kestral effect is a little wasted since I try to keep in the 400-600m range with the Ravens. If I had a Seeker, I'd probably have it on my Shieldbreaker Siren instead of the Parasite I use now. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Dec 20, 2023 5:14:11 GMT -5
4. Best time to buy things like pads is about 40% to 60% through the event time line. Prior to that the pricing is for whales who want to get their hands on the latest and greatest asap (so they pay a premium). When the pads get very cheap it seems like Pix nerfs the pay out. So waiting too long seems like false economy.
I think this is wrong but I'd welcome evidence to the contrary. If you've got more data to share that presents different percentages to this, I'm curious - but you're P2P, not 100% F2P.
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Post by T34 on Dec 20, 2023 21:27:56 GMT -5
I am a Minnow or perhaps a very small Dolphin. Not sure where the boundary is. Not F2P.
Re your comment, you could be right. The assertion is subjective.
I do not believe you can come to a firm conclusion because:
- There is some degree of luck involved
- 「dookie」 loads of data would be needed
- And even if you have 「dookie」 loads of data the system is so finely tuned to extracting as much money as possible out of a player, that I would not be surprised if for example you get a better returns for the first 10 pads opened than for a second lot of 10 pads. There are so many other ways Pix could manipulate the outcomes. Hence drop rates are not published. And whatever Pix can do to maximise profit they are probably doing.
But on the flip side. If the returns stay the same where are the hoards of Ochos and newtons. When they came out I had a Newton drop once or twice every 10 opens. Same with Tonanas and Fulgures. After the intro, their drop rates have been lowered.
I haven't kept a full record of winnings but here is the 20 red pad opens from yesterday (I was going after the UE halo in the Leaderboards).
20 red silver pads for $9.99 (AUS$)
Subduer - 12,500
Tamer - 2 (full) +2000 comps
Splinter - 3,500
Trickster - 4,500
Deceiver - 1,500
Damper - 3,500
Shatter - 2,500
Brisant - 3,500
IMO, no way this is representative of what I would get at the end of the event. You could be lucky to score 2500 comps of a Subduer. Full weapons wouldn't be tamers but something like reapers or Brisants or splinters. And note the total absence of Tonanas and Fulgures (I understand they are Legendary prizes but I haven't seen one drop for ages). Also note the high drop rate of Subduers and Tamers. Luck? Who knows. Does Pix wants subduers out on the battlefield in larger numbers?
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