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Post by noobcake on Apr 13, 2017 23:54:36 GMT -5
Hi folks,
i am am playing in expert II on iOS. I currently run all knife fighters and am looking to replace one of my bots with a mid-ranger. I have a trident fury, an RDB griffin, and a pair of Zeus I could toss onto the carnage. My hangar consists of weapons and bots at or around level 10.
plasmahad - anti plasma and half decent beacon capper
DB griffin - anti-Brit bot and close quarters ambusher
PDB griffin - anti-midrange ambusher
Thunder carnage - close quarters ambusher
Thunder orkan Lancelot - ancilot destroyer (aka the pimple popper)
My first instinct is to remove the carnage or the PDB griffin. Using a trident fury is the obvious choice but it is slow and boring. I enjoy the RDB play style but the setup is weakened greatly by the prevalence of ancilots. The Zeus carnage is ok but the prevalence of Brit bots and the Zeus bug make this guy less desirable.
Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks in advance!
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 14, 2017 7:13:35 GMT -5
Bumping. I know we can do better than to let a thread like this fall to Page 2 of Recent without a reply.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Apr 14, 2017 7:21:17 GMT -5
I would replace carnage with a zues fury. Zues carny failing that.
I never experience the zues bug, and my zues fury has no issues popping a lance shield so the team can eliminate him.
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Post by sonofsam on Apr 14, 2017 7:53:43 GMT -5
Put the Zeus on the carnage.
Remember if you are using midrange you are in a support role. Your job is to weaken the opposition not to kill everything (taking out a quick target of opportunity is OK). I run a Zeus carnage at lvl 8 weapons. It does roughly 20k per shot and its pretty easy to zap a Brit bot 3 times before the knife fighters engage it. 60k will take most of a shied on a Gary or one shied on a Lance. It will take about a third of a Galahad shield. All of this makes it easier for your knife fighter to crack the shied and kill the red especially if you aren't busy weakening the next guy and knock him around more after your knife fighter engages him.
Your other choice is to decide which Griffin you want to replace with the fury
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 10:04:00 GMT -5
I would replace the Carnage with a Zeus Carnage or a Trident Carnage. I would also get rid of the Plasma Griffin for a Fury, if you decide against the Carnage was midrange.
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Post by Jame-thon on Apr 14, 2017 10:14:52 GMT -5
I'm not trying to follow the general consensus but I am currently in the process of replacing my RDB griffin with a Zeus Carnage as well. I think it would be a good fit for your lineup so you continue having a balanced mix of missiles and plasma bots. When at a decent level, he can shell out a lot of damage on a swift bot and has decent range as well. Only second to the Treb/Gekkkos/KD. I most like how he is more mobile and can respond well to a moving pack of allies and enemies. If you keep you distance well and don't get ambushed, he's very deadly imo.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 14, 2017 10:32:19 GMT -5
Zeus Carny is my favorite when Anciles are prevalent, but lately, the RDB has been treating me well. I used to rotate Trident Carn for Zeus Carn, but now, I think RDB will go back to my splash MR of choice. So, I say: Have options, but get the Zeus Carny up. blastronaut still reports the bug. I don't see it anymore. I wonder if it is lag (not necessarily on the part of the user experiencing it) or maybe even device related (like the Aphids used to never arc on certain devices and would for the same player on a different device). Either way, I have had some outstanding games with mine, and highly recommend it. For a splash option, trident Carny is NOT bad, at all. I have just found the RDB to be better than I remembered it. IDK if I have gotten better, or if I was just not using it correctly, but I have found the versatility of the 3rd dimension of attack (jump) to be very valuable. Enough so that I am upgrading Pins after leaving them be for a long time. |
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Post by blastronaut on Apr 14, 2017 10:39:21 GMT -5
Zeus Carny is my favorite when Anciles are prevalent, but lately, the RDB has been treating me well. I used to rotate Trident Carn for Zeus Carn, but now, I think RDB will go back to my MR of choice. So, I say: Have options, but get the Zeus Carny up. blastronaut still reports the bug. I don't see it anymore. I wonder if it is lag (not necessarily on the part of the user experiencing it) or maybe even device related (like the Aphids used to never arc on certain devices and would for the same player on a different device). Either way, I have had some outstanding games with mine, and highly recommend it. For a splash option, trident Carny is NOT bad, at all. I have just found the RDB to be better than I remembered it. IDK if I have gotten better, or if I was just not using it correctly, but I have found the versatility of the 3rd dimension of attack (jump) to be very valuable. Enough so that I am upgrading Pins after leaving them be for a long time. When Tulu and Pin mechanics change (with a DPS drop) RDB might not be as good as it is now. Should still be good though. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 14, 2017 10:46:04 GMT -5
Zeus Carny is my favorite when Anciles are prevalent, but lately, the RDB has been treating me well. I used to rotate Trident Carn for Zeus Carn, but now, I think RDB will go back to my MR of choice. So, I say: Have options, but get the Zeus Carny up. blastronaut still reports the bug. I don't see it anymore. I wonder if it is lag (not necessarily on the part of the user experiencing it) or maybe even device related (like the Aphids used to never arc on certain devices and would for the same player on a different device). Either way, I have had some outstanding games with mine, and highly recommend it. For a splash option, trident Carny is NOT bad, at all. I have just found the RDB to be better than I remembered it. IDK if I have gotten better, or if I was just not using it correctly, but I have found the versatility of the 3rd dimension of attack (jump) to be very valuable. Enough so that I am upgrading Pins after leaving them be for a long time. When Tulu and Pin mechanics change (with a DPS drop) RDB might not be as good as it is now. Should still be good though. Yeah... I dread that tbh... the damage nerf... ugh. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 14, 2017 11:17:29 GMT -5
I would replace the PDB with a mid ranger preferably a TT fury. The PDB is at a disadvantage against Lances which are more common in higher tiers.
The tridents on a carnage has subpar damage but is great at maneuvering into position with some protection against splash. Zeus is still the best option if you go with replacing the thunders.
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Post by Ferro Magnus on Apr 14, 2017 11:32:38 GMT -5
I primarily mid range, it's always been my preffered method of play, so I run 2 Mid rangers at all times, not a fan of the RDB Griffin, I view it as more of a knife fighters mid range build, I would only recommend Zeus Carnage or trident fury, though Zeus Fury is pretty good and I currently run one, if you can afford a third Zeus.
edit: To replace the carnage! Of course
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Post by noobcake on Apr 14, 2017 17:10:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the bump Dredd77 and everyone else for the advice! The RDB has some incoming changes so i'll skip it for now. The replacing thunders with zeus seems like the most painless option. With a zeus carnage as my mid-ranger should I also replace my PDB griffin? Potential options are the tarancilot, TT fury, or leave it in. Any thoughts? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:39:45 GMT -5
Put an Ancile Lancelot in to replace it.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 14, 2017 21:14:29 GMT -5
Change Carnage to fury.
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