MA - Redeemer or Aegis?

Thanks! I have 59 bps for Aegis and I do not have it yet...so I have to spend 3700 acoins to acquire it and then upgrade it 10 times...so yeah, I won't get far.

Does the Daze thing go through shields? That would be my deciding factor I think. Semi related...does Orion's Mark go through shields?

Redeemer MR12 is solid. DL12 is better. RG12 might actually be equal to MRs. I run it mostly in CPC myself. CB12 might be pretty good too. I don't have a levelled Carbine pilot so I don't run them, but I did some matches back when swaps were free and I noted you could get in the 30m optimal damage range and then backtrack out when it got hairy. Didn't get to play around with it too much but it seemed like it had some potential. Worth keeping in mind whenever you do level it.

I don't have an Aegis so I'm not sure about your shields question.

Ok, so I pulled the trigger yesterday...

I decided that I will max Redeemer when and only when I have the bps for it. I have 30 and I think I need another 100. So, I spent what Acoins I had collected on the Aegis cause I figure for the Redeemer, I would only need credits while the Aegis will need a lot of love before I can get it to a playable level.

In the end, I decided that I needed a tank more, to supplement my Panther for holding ground in matches. While both Aegis and Redeemer would have done well on a variety of maps and modes and both would have been a good replacement for KS, in the end, I decided I needed another area denier for when my Panther gets trashed. I'd been playing my Guardian like this and it just doesn't work after I took off the RG16 and put on DL16. Guardian with RG16 was great for spawning at contested beacons and quickly wiping out 2-3 mechs before going out in a blaze of glory. With DL16, it can't do that and I have to play it more as a CQC equalizer.

Eclipse and Surge are enough as my opener and clutch mechs so those will stay as well.

I'm not really a fan of the MR12 or the MR family in general. The reload time is just too long for me. Yes, I know they're similar to JR but it's too long for me on a slow moving mech. I'll likely put them on Redeemer though when I finally max that mech.

Congrats! Redeemer definitely takes a bit of getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty solid. Backtrack is probably the trickiest ability in the game to really get a hang of. Like freeze or stealth mechs, it can deploy anytime but it shines when you deploy it for the right situations. Generally I think Redeemer is probably strongest as a "harasser" and opportunistic beacon capper. That's not really different than Killshot except that when it gets heavy instead of charging in do-or-die, you're running to fight another day. And it's got 60k+ more health. :-)

I think MR12s are pretty good for learning because between the reload time and being direct fire, they curb the aggression a bit. Also big bonus feature - you can start firing the missile racks, hit Backtrack, and finish unloading them while you're phase-shifted! Other good weapon combos are DLs, RGs, ATs, and EMRs. HRs should work nicely too.

Remember, even if will stay in the same place, the Backtrack can buy you a few seconds of invincibility, so it can be useful when a mech just gets on top of you, or Disrupter plasma balls are headed your way. Also good for just relocating. The best Redeemer snipers use it that way and you can never tell what direction they are coming at you from. I love it on the Smokestacks map, because you can stay up on the top level, shooting down at reds and then if they turn the beacon, dropping down to turn it back and backtracking back up to the top. There's a lot of situations where it can be just the right mech, just takes time to get a feel for all of it.

Yup. I am finally getting the hang of it. So hard not to just hit it instantly 😮‍💨

I've fired through it entirely from outside as a teammate.

Ok, I've maxed my Aegis and also sprung for more acoins to bring my DL8 to R6. I think I have enough blueprints to max the DL8 too when I finally rebuild my credit stash. So far, I've tried CB12, MR12 and DL16/8. I haven't done HR yet and I'm tempted to muck around with RM12 just for giggles.

My thought so far:
CB12 truly sucks. Like it really sucks. True, I don't have it maxed but they're dishing out 150+k per gun and the DPS is so freaking slow. I won't give up totally yet though cause I think my problem is that I was engaging a bit too close with them. I have to remember that the CBs are more of a stand off weapon now and not nearly good enough to be Assault weapons.

MR12 is not bad except that my MR12 still lacks punch. It's extremely annoying to line up a perfect attack only to leave your target with a sliver of HP and me backpedaling like crazy to get away. The dome shield also goes down pretty fast in the face of some weapons like Miniguns and Storm Racks.

DL16/8 was not bad. My DL16 churns out similar overall damage to the CB12 but does it much faster. The problem is the DL8. Oh well....I went with DL8 instead of DL12 cause my DL8 was at R5.6 while my DL12 was still at R4. Maybe subconsciously I still want symmetrical builds...

I'm gonna give NL12 a shot. Might as well. I've built up a respectable amount of implant parts again with my aggressive buying strategy of buying all the blue implants everyday and scrapping them all. I think I'll throw some onto Impulse and see how it goes.

Anyone try Aegis with AT12? Any other thoughts on weapons? Keep in mind that my appetite for new weapons is pretty low. For now, I really want to just go with what weapons I have ready to go. I have a feeling that Aegis would be brutal with MG12 but I'm not ready to pony up for that yet considering how much I've spent so far just maxing Aegis.

Anyway, I had a brief plan to move my Guardian back to RG16 but even with them maxed and a maxed Maverick and decent leveled RG damage purple implant, the play wasn't that different from my RG12 on Eclipse. I mean I was doing more damage yes, but I was still using similar number of shots to kill a healthy target. For example, a double blast from RG16 would leave a smaller sliver of HP vs RG12, but that means I still have to shoot again to finish it off. Sure, I can single fire but I can't always do that in the heat of an encounter and I can't escape easily like I can with Eclipse. I almost picked up Baron when he became available for Acoins and I still might when I get enough Acoins again. We'll see I guess!