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Post by Koalabear on Oct 26, 2023 9:28:20 GMT -5
Ok thoughts? I don't have Aegis cause I hated its ability. But, they finally made the shield useable. You can now fire through it from the inside and it's got a massive HP. Is it too much though? If you and your team can fire through it from the inside, can they also fire from through it from the outside? Like if you're outside the dome and want to shoot through the dome and out the other side?
Is it worth abandoning my plans for Redeemer to get the Aegis now? I'm guessing not because while the HP is massive (~325k out of the box) a couple of shots from EMRs will take it down and that's still not as good as being able to backtrack out of danger. But what are all your thoughts? I mean, it's a pretty good RM and HR platform now too...hmm...
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Post by S1E1 on Oct 26, 2023 12:33:03 GMT -5
Ugh, I don't want this. The only redeeming features of Aegis where that 1) people can't shoot mortars out from under the shield and b) barely anyone played it so the whole map wasn't filled with annoying domes.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 26, 2023 13:21:46 GMT -5
I'm ok on paper because otherwise the Aegis was completely useless. I'd only ever seen one person use the old shield right by sticking a weapon out of the shield like he was corner shooting. I do think the new dome shield's HP is too high though. It's still Surge bait though so up close, the shield can still be a liability. We'll have to see though.
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Post by Redfiend on Oct 26, 2023 15:45:59 GMT -5
I'm ok on paper because otherwise the Aegis was completely useless. I'd only ever seen one person use the old shield right by sticking a weapon out of the shield like he was corner shooting. I do think the new dome shield's HP is too high though. It's still Surge bait though so up close, the shield can still be a liability. We'll have to see though. Max dual Mortar 12s+Pilot > Max Dome HP. Iirc each mortar 12 is like 600K when fully decked out, the dome at 6.7 is 725k. Given how large the shield is, and the average damage output the bubble won't survive very long unless it's the off chance that only one thing is actually shooting at it. |
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Post by S1E1 on Oct 27, 2023 11:03:24 GMT -5
I'm ok on paper because otherwise the Aegis was completely useless. I'd only ever seen one person use the old shield right by sticking a weapon out of the shield like he was corner shooting. I do think the new dome shield's HP is too high though. It's still Surge bait though so up close, the shield can still be a liability. We'll have to see though. Max dual Mortar 12s+Pilot > Max Dome HP. Iirc each mortar 12 is like 600K when fully decked out, the dome at 6.7 is 725k. Given how large the shield is, and the average damage output the bubble won't survive very long unless it's the off chance that only one thing is actually shooting at it. Wait, how are you getting 600k per RM12? A single RM does 119,416 damage per magazine. A maxed Boar w/ gold RM DMG implant doubles that (40% weapon dmg + 30% artillery dmg + 30% gold implant dmg = 100% total) for 238,832 damage per mag. If you then used a Stalker or Brickhouse with their gold ability implants maxed you can add on another 80% (50% ability + 30% implant) for 334,365 damage per mag. So for both RM12s combined it would be 668,730 total damage. That is less than the shield (750,000 at max), which has a 10 second duration & 10 second cooldown before implants. Rocket Mortars have 14.5 second cooldown so overall it's hard to see Aegis RM players being able to take each other out in tourney, etc. Unless I am missing something here on how damage boosting is calculated. But I don't think I am. If a single RM did 600k damage, I'd kill a lot more mechs outright. |
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Post by Redfiend on Oct 27, 2023 14:12:11 GMT -5
Max dual Mortar 12s+Pilot > Max Dome HP. Iirc each mortar 12 is like 600K when fully decked out, the dome at 6.7 is 725k. Given how large the shield is, and the average damage output the bubble won't survive very long unless it's the off chance that only one thing is actually shooting at it. Wait, how are you getting 600k per RM12? A single RM does 119,416 damage per magazine. A maxed Boar w/ gold RM DMG implant doubles that (40% weapon dmg + 30% artillery dmg + 30% gold implant dmg = 100% total) for 238,832 damage per mag. If you then used a Stalker or Brickhouse with their gold ability implants maxed you can add on another 80% (50% ability + 30% implant) for 334,365 damage per mag. So for both RM12s combined it would be 668,730 total damage. That is less than the shield (750,000 at max), which has a 10 second duration & 10 second cooldown before implants. Rocket Mortars have 14.5 second cooldown so overall it's hard to see Aegis RM players being able to take each other out in tourney, etc. Unless I am missing something here on how damage boosting is calculated. But I don't think I am. If a single RM did 600k damage, I'd kill a lot more mechs outright. Yea, I messed up. 🤷🏽♂️ Aegis is now in line with Panther, trading firepower for HP. |
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