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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 16:19:24 GMT -5
Very nice. More speed reduction with the shield forward than the Galahad, but livable. Taken 2 Rhinos with it. Really seems good at those side attacks.
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 20, 2016 18:47:18 GMT -5
What's the rest of your hangar look like around that Gareth?
This post bought to you by the Gareth. Gareth: the Cossack's Gold-tier big brother.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 20, 2016 19:19:09 GMT -5
Hm, maybe we'll have a light bot on par with the stalker in higher tiers?
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 20, 2016 22:48:42 GMT -5
Question for perspective: if someone really liked light bots and money was no object would it be functional to have a hangar of five Gareths?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 20, 2016 22:54:41 GMT -5
It would be functional for me, free kills in my trident fury.
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Post by mauer on Nov 21, 2016 8:45:14 GMT -5
Gareth is awesome bot - with his speed and constant move aphids simply flying around without hurting. Moreover - fast beacon capture and stronger than Stalker.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 8:56:14 GMT -5
I love it. Running 2 atm.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 21, 2016 9:23:40 GMT -5
1. Getting to beacons as fast as possible should not be your priority. Getting to beacons and defending them/ holding them should be your priority.
2. The stalker is not a 'strong' bot, as it is not designed to go into ANY gunfights while unstealthed.
3. The gareth doesn't really have a place in any tier, as gold is full of missiles and midrange, silver is dominated by Gepards (the gareth will not be able to cope with lvl 12 mags when the bot lvl is low) and it just doesn't work in bronze.
But if you can justify how the gareth would ever be a better bot than a power runner (Galahad or a rhino for example) in any situation, I would be interested in the details. Thanks.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 10:18:01 GMT -5
1. Getting to beacons as fast as possible should not be your priority. Getting to beacons and defending them/ holding them should be your priority. 2. The stalker is not a 'strong' bot, as it is not designed to go into ANY gunfights while unstealthed. 3. The gareth doesn't really have a place in any tier, as gold is full of missiles and midrange, silver is dominated by Gepards (the gareth will not be able to cope with lvl 12 mags when the bot lvl is low) and it just doesn't work in bronze. But if you can justify how the gareth would ever be a better bot than a power runner (Galahad or a rhino for example) in any situation, I would be interested in the details. Thanks. People have it in their heads that they suck. Cool. I have found that they excel for my playstyle, and regularly help me earn 1.5 to 2 times the amount of damage as the high scorers on the Reds, and often, my fellow blues. I still run Galahads, and other bots, but Gareths, more often than not, are my MVP.
I use mine when speed counts. When Flanking opportunities arise. When beacons are more important than killing everything that moves. When Stalkers are causing harassment. It may not be the best bot of the game, but it damn sure has a place in High Silver/Low Gold filling important roles. Many MagGeps, DBs, Big Thunder bots have fallen to my lil ole Gareth... often times in the same match. So, yes, it is a strong bot and can more than hold its own. I'm not saying it is invincible, either, but it can dodge short range splash, aphids, and a good number of plasma shots along with letting them splash on the shield. You can block Treb/Kwk/Kang Dae shots from across the map as you go get the beacon or get into a flank position, you can absorb 600m guided missiles with the shield effectively, etc. etc. My take on it... YMMV
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 21, 2016 10:31:47 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48, it is not in my head that the gareth sucks. I own a Gareth, it functions very similar to the Galahad, aside from the fact that you cannot generally take on plasma bots head-on like you can with the Galahad, as you can backpedal missiles with your shield up if need be. The reason I do not run it in my hangar however is the same reason I do not run a stalker, while they are good bots, they lack firepower and durability to be effective at contesting and protecting beacons like I said. While the beacon running role is an important one, playing the fastest bots in the game is not the answer. I don't believe I have ever been in a situation with my Galahad where I would have rather had a Gareth. Upon writing this message I knew that it would look like I completely disregarded the rest of your post, however what have said is already known to me, so I did not feel the need to bring up any of that.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 10:42:46 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 , it is not in my head that the gareth sucks. I own a Gareth, it functions very similar to the Galahad, aside from the fact that you cannot generally take on plasma bots head-on like you can with the Galahad, as you can backpedal missiles with your shield up if need be. The reason I do not run it in my hangar however is the same reason I do not run a stalker, while they are good bots, they lack firepower and durability to be effective at contesting and protecting beacons like I said. While the beacon running role is an important one, playing the fastest bots in the game is not the answer. I don't believe I have ever been in a situation with my Galahad where I would have rather had a Gareth. Upon writing this message I knew that it would look like I completely disregarded the rest of your post, however what have said is already known to me, so I did not feel the need to bring up any of that. Fair enough, then I will specifically address that point. I have held down many a beacon against waves of attackers in the lil guy. It does have pretty decent firepower... Comparing to the Galahad, it's just one less light weapon. Plus, I can level the weapons on it higher because it is still a light bot. Yes, penalty. But if you are running other penalty bots, that is negated. Tridents and RDBs are my fears and can make the Beacon holding more than tough, but until they break that out, I'll take on any other bot. If I know it will kill me toe to toe, I have the speed and mobility to either relinquish the beacon to flank, or to just keep dancing till I out shoot them. It's hard to hit those lil firetruckers. Other Gareths are my worst foes. I'd rather face a Galahad than another Gareth. But to be fair, I don't want to face a Galahad, either There are times in most games I would rather have my Gareth than my Galahad. It's so nimble and is quite strong enough in Firepower that I can almost guarantee at least a 3:1 kill ration against heavies.
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 10:51:14 GMT -5
i read all of these messages and everyone has great opions...
my opion is that the gareth i simply have becuase i could not afford a galahad at the time... i love the gareth with tarans/mags and im able to live the whole round with it. i use it in platinum (highest possible tier) and i can usually take about 2 rhinos (DB's) and i can usually take down 3-4 plasma/DB griffs and capture 3 beacons, and thats only with one gareth.
now the facts... gareth is vulnerable to RDB's and trident furies but can withstand pretty much any other meta setup... its faster than galahad at half the price at the expense for less health and less firepower but more speed and people will definetly underestimate you when your piloting the gareth... i myself avoid gareths but not galahads.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 21, 2016 10:53:31 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48, Alright alright. I have not had success with the Gareth, and in low gold I barely even see any pilots (aside from banded ones from max/high gold) that are even any good at piloting their bots. I suppose I'll be able to properly gauge the threat level of the supposedly mini-tank Gareth's that can kill 3 heavy bots without dying (I'm really just messing with you, you know that right?). To be completely fair, I do feel sorry for the gareth, I ALWAYS target the gareth with my midrange first, if there ever is one on the field, and I just feel so bad afterwards XD.
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 10:53:55 GMT -5
why is my gold so high?
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 10:54:41 GMT -5
and what is the karma thing?
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 10:56:21 GMT -5
Alright alright. I have not had success with the Gareth, and in low gold I barely even see any pilots (aside from banded ones from max/high gold) that are even any good at piloting their bots. I suppose I'll be able to properly gauge the threat level of the supposedly mini-tank Gareth's that can kill 3 heavy bots without dying (I'm really just messing with you, you know that right?). To be completely fair, I do feel sorry for the gareth, I ALWAYS target the gareth with my midrange first, if there ever is one on the field, and I just feel so bad afterwards XD.
haha CAMPER... you have unloaded on me a few times and one-shot my gareth LEL... i mean i allways never use my gareth against you unless i know you have no midfielders left.
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 10:58:53 GMT -5
ill be back in an hour i gots to go to class bye!
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 21, 2016 11:19:37 GMT -5
i use it in platinum (highest possible tier) and i can usually take about 2 rhinos (DB's) and i can usually take down 3-4 plasma/DB griffs and capture 3 beacons, and thats only with one gareth. You've admitted that you're new, so let me try not to rip you a new one on your first day. Lying isn't cool. Nor is four posts in a row. Learn to edit your posts or you'll have people unhappy to see you really fast. Also, before you hit Reply just stop for a minute, breathe, and ask yourself if you have anything else to add. It's not a race to see who it's fastest.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 11:20:12 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 , Alright alright. I have not had success with the Gareth, and in low gold I barely even see any pilots (aside from banded ones from max/high gold) that are even any good at piloting their bots. I suppose I'll be able to properly gauge the threat level of the supposedly mini-tank Gareth's that can kill 3 heavy bots without dying (I'm really just messing with you, you know that right?). To be completely fair, I do feel sorry for the gareth, I ALWAYS target the gareth with my midrange first, if there ever is one on the field, and I just feel so bad afterwards XD. Fair points. The piloting can be... lackluster in that tier. And yes, my TriCarn will focus in on them right quick, and in a hurry! Because I know how much potential headache they can be lol.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 11:24:18 GMT -5
i use it in platinum (highest possible tier) and i can usually take about 2 rhinos (DB's) and i can usually take down 3-4 plasma/DB griffs and capture 3 beacons, and thats only with one gareth. You've admitted that you're new, so let me try not to rip you a new one on your first day. Lying isn't cool. Nor is four posts in a row. Learn to edit your posts or you'll have people unhappy to see you really fast. Also, before you hit Reply just stop for a minute, breathe, and ask yourself if you have anything else to add. It's not a race to see who it's fastest. I have no idea about the lying part so I won't say anything there... but... I feel like he just hasn't used a forum much... like he may be using it like a chat app, or an instant messager, whatever you want to call it. Younger generation does that. Also, after seeing the WIKI forum posts in the VOX recruiting thread... I don't know that not ripping a new one is the best approach. It's not my clan but it ticked me off quite a bit, just reading it. It has been edited since... but what is there is enough to get the gist.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 21, 2016 11:29:55 GMT -5
I like my Gareth, but I personally haven't put in the time to learn how to pilot it well enough to be effective. Right now, I'm using a Thunder Carnage in the slot that the Gareth should be because I just can't keep the sucker alive (lvl 6).
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 21, 2016 11:32:28 GMT -5
I like my Gareth, but I personally haven't put in the time to learn how to pilot it well enough to be effective. Right now, I'm using a Thunder Carnage in the slot that the Gareth should be because I just can't keep the sucker alive (lvl 6). I wouldn't even bother with the Gareth until you've maxed the speed, at this level the bot has better shield durability, can be used as intended and can survive salvos of midrange (it will be army crawling around though...)
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 21, 2016 11:44:29 GMT -5
I have no idea about the lying part so I won't say anything there... but... No Gareth "can usually take about 2 rhinos (DB's) and i can usually take down 3-4 plasma/DB griffs and capture 3 beacons." That's not even what Gareths are for. His over-the-top claims, complete lack of any pictorial evidence, and incessant garbage posts just have me waiting for him to receive much longer bans than he's had so far.
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Post by ZEBARUNNER on Nov 21, 2016 13:39:06 GMT -5
i use it in platinum (highest possible tier) and i can usually take about 2 rhinos (DB's) and i can usually take down 3-4 plasma/DB griffs and capture 3 beacons, and thats only with one gareth. You've admitted that you're new, so let me try not to rip you a new one on your first day. Lying isn't cool. Nor is four posts in a row. Learn to edit your posts or you'll have people unhappy to see you really fast. Also, before you hit Reply just stop for a minute, breathe, and ask yourself if you have anything else to add. It's not a race to see who it's fastest. ill try not to do multiple messeges and yes i have a hard time understanding how to adjust from texting... i havent lied about nothing. but thank you for trying to help and on the wikia i got frustrated that one time and nothing like that will ever happen again i have passed that maturity level and decided to act more like an adult... i appreciate all the help and im trying to figure out how to edit but i think i got it figured out... FYI i wont lie on here thats a promise you can believe everything i say im a straight forwatd person and s=thats why sometimes im looked up as a pain and im looked at as a pai sometimes becuase i do tell the truth and what i said about my gareth run has happened a few times but thats not normal... normally with oe gareth i either die to midfielders or grap 1-3 beacons and kill about 1 1/2 bots-2 bots. yeah ill keep my cool, ill try to send everythingin one big message (if i forgret tell me) and im not going to lie .period. i dont know a way to prove my gareth run... i have used it allot... mabye once i get my channel started in 2ish years i can send a video showing you my gareth run... or i could stick 2 cossacks and a gareth in my hangar and send you a pic of how i did... allthough i dont know how to send pics and i dont know why you guys cant simply belive what i said... im not sure if i mentioned it or not but on those times i get really good runs are very rare and i usually have some distraction help or sniper help and sometimes midfielders help me
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 21, 2016 14:09:42 GMT -5
ill try not to do multiple messeges and yes i have a hard time understanding how to adjust from texting... i havent lied about nothing. but thank you for trying to help and on the wikia i got frustrated that one time and nothing like that will ever happen again i have passed that maturity level and decided to act more like an adult... i appreciate all the help and im trying to figure out how to edit but i think i got it figured out... FYI i wont lie on here thats a promise you can believe everything i say im a straight forwatd person and s=thats why sometimes im looked up as a pain and im looked at as a pai sometimes becuase i do tell the truth and what i said about my gareth run has happened a few times but thats not normal... normally with oe gareth i either die to midfielders or grap 1-3 beacons and kill about 1 1/2 bots-2 bots. yeah ill keep my cool, ill try to send everythingin one big message (if i forgret tell me) and im not going to lie .period. i dont know a way to prove my gareth run... i have used it allot... mabye once i get my channel started in 2ish years i can send a video showing you my gareth run... or i could stick 2 cossacks and a gareth in my hangar and send you a pic of how i did... allthough i dont know how to send pics and i dont know why you guys cant simply belive what i said... im not sure if i mentioned it or not but on those times i get really good runs are very rare and i usually have some distraction help or sniper help and sometimes midfielders help me Holy crap, just stop! Punctuation. Sentence structure. Spelling. Coherent messaging that isn't stream-of-high-on-acid-consciousness. You're not funny and you're losing your potential audience the longer you talk. You are doing anything BUT showing any level of maturity even in this post. (Pro tip: mature people can figure out how to use the correct style of communication.) ...and you're the worst kind of liar: the kind who believes his own crap. Just stop, chill out, and breathe or I'm sure you'll eventually find yourself on the long end of a banhammer swing.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 14:40:32 GMT -5
ill try not to do multiple messeges and yes i have a hard time understanding how to adjust from texting... i havent lied about nothing. but thank you for trying to help and on the wikia i got frustrated that one time and nothing like that will ever happen again i have passed that maturity level and decided to act more like an adult... i appreciate all the help and im trying to figure out how to edit but i think i got it figured out... FYI i wont lie on here thats a promise you can believe everything i say im a straight forwatd person and s=thats why sometimes im looked up as a pain and im looked at as a pai sometimes becuase i do tell the truth and what i said about my gareth run has happened a few times but thats not normal... normally with oe gareth i either die to midfielders or grap 1-3 beacons and kill about 1 1/2 bots-2 bots. yeah ill keep my cool, ill try to send everythingin one big message (if i forgret tell me) and im not going to lie .period. i dont know a way to prove my gareth run... i have used it allot... mabye once i get my channel started in 2ish years i can send a video showing you my gareth run... or i could stick 2 cossacks and a gareth in my hangar and send you a pic of how i did... allthough i dont know how to send pics and i dont know why you guys cant simply belive what i said... im not sure if i mentioned it or not but on those times i get really good runs are very rare and i usually have some distraction help or sniper help and sometimes midfielders help me Holy crap, just stop! Punctuation. Sentence structure. Spelling. Coherent messaging that isn't stream-of-high-on-acid-consciousness. You're not funny and you're losing your potential audience the longer you talk. You are doing anything BUT showing any level of maturity even in this post. (Pro tip: mature people can figure out how to use the correct style of communication.) ...and you're the worst kind of liar: the kind who believes his own crap. Just stop, chill out, and breathe or I'm sure you'll eventually find yourself on the long end of a banhammer swing. OK, I will say that I have had very similar runs in mine... both with distractions and without. I dont get up here and spout BS, my clan mates have ran with me running Gareths and if the battle is right, I can do more damage in that bot than any of my team mates. It is not every game... but it has happened enough to make it my favorite bot.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 21, 2016 20:04:15 GMT -5
ill try not to do multiple messeges and yes i have a hard time understanding how to adjust from texting... i havent lied about nothing. but thank you for trying to help and on the wikia i got frustrated that one time and nothing like that will ever happen again i have passed that maturity level and decided to act more like an adult... i appreciate all the help and im trying to figure out how to edit but i think i got it figured out... FYI i wont lie on here thats a promise you can believe everything i say im a straight forwatd person and s=thats why sometimes im looked up as a pain and im looked at as a pai sometimes becuase i do tell the truth and what i said about my gareth run has happened a few times but thats not normal... normally with oe gareth i either die to midfielders or grap 1-3 beacons and kill about 1 1/2 bots-2 bots. yeah ill keep my cool, ill try to send everythingin one big message (if i forgret tell me) and im not going to lie .period. i dont know a way to prove my gareth run... i have used it allot... mabye once i get my channel started in 2ish years i can send a video showing you my gareth run... or i could stick 2 cossacks and a gareth in my hangar and send you a pic of how i did... allthough i dont know how to send pics and i dont know why you guys cant simply belive what i said... im not sure if i mentioned it or not but on those times i get really good runs are very rare and i usually have some distraction help or sniper help and sometimes midfielders help me Holy crap, just stop! Punctuation. Sentence structure. Spelling. Coherent messaging that isn't stream-of-high-on-acid-consciousness. You're not funny and you're losing your potential audience the longer you talk. You are doing anything BUT showing any level of maturity even in this post. (Pro tip: mature people can figure out how to use the correct style of communication.) ...and you're the worst kind of liar: the kind who believes his own crap. Just stop, chill out, and breathe or I'm sure you'll eventually find yourself on the long end of a banhammer swing. Reading that post physically hurt me.
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Post by FattyPattyYT on Nov 21, 2016 20:14:10 GMT -5
Owwwwch,
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Post by Strayed on Nov 21, 2016 21:37:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 23:09:17 GMT -5
Platinum tier? One Gareth for the whole game? 2 Rhinos a game? Ive killed 2 Rhinos in a day with a Gareth, but the pilots werent real good, and they werent at full health.
As far as hanger, since my Gareth is 4-9/9 (Taran/Mag), I know it will jack up things, so I just toss in a Mag or Aphid Stalker 4-6/6, then usually 3 tri-mag Geps 4- 9/9/9. or two Geps, and a Cossack 4-9 (Taran)
Sometimes a lvl 4 Schutze with lvl 8/9 Zeus or Thunder may creep in.
I use this hangar for my daily tasks when theres capping.
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