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Post by BigBear on Jul 28, 2023 15:39:57 GMT -5
So it seems Payrium has decided that when the current Vault Blitz ends it will undergo a revamp and return as a Playoff event, apparently you still need Fortune Keys but instead of just spinning to win it seems you now have to grind and face wacky matchmaking and whales to get into a top (insert unknown number here) to win something.
Their description is a bit vague at the moment but reading between the lines and also knowing how Payrium think I don't think this will be as player friendly as just spinning and winning.
If it's anything like the current Playoff event it will be another one less event for me to be involved with.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 28, 2023 17:52:42 GMT -5
That just stopped me playing the rest of the week. This I have to see. The current playoff structure was already cheeks, with the seeding only rewarding top 3 and all of the high point tasks revolving around buying/spending event chests/coins.
There's no reason to think this is going to be any sort of upgrade. If it nueters the already anemic F2P coin income, we may as well go back to War Robots. $100 release every 2-3 weeks with every "event" based on spending money. The events that are doable without spending don't award coins.
Upgrade costs were always atrocious, if not for the AI, this would probably be the coffin nail.
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 28, 2023 20:39:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up. That does not sound good at all. Probably should unload the keys I have saved up before VB ends 3 days from now.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 29, 2023 9:02:58 GMT -5
wait what? Is this confirmed? I have like 120 keys saved up. Maybe I should just blow it all?
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 29, 2023 10:22:33 GMT -5
wait what? Is this confirmed? I have like 120 keys saved up. Maybe I should just blow it all? Facebook post: " 👋 Hello, everyone! It's been a while since our last "What we are working on" update. A lot has changed in Mech Arena since then, and we've got even more exciting things on the horizon! Among other changes, we are renaming this series to "Mech Arena Roundup," and in today's issue, we are going to cover the highly anticipated Gear Hub, changes to Vault Blitz, and the upcoming Mech Arena 2nd Anniversary celebrations. Let's start with the most anticipated topic. Gear Hub is a major feature that will significantly transform the player's experience while progressing in Mech Arena's content. With the changes the new progress system entails, it's essential to thoroughly check Gear Hub's performance, verify the balance, and consider all elements that will be affected. We do understand that the waiting time upsets you, but we need to make absolutely sure that everything is verified and tested. That's why we are testing Gear Hub in stages before rolling it out to the entire player base. We apologize for this inconvenience, but we need just a little bit more time. We appreciate your understanding and will keep you informed of any updates! Moving on to the next topic, let's talk about the regular Vault Blitz event that is getting a makeover. Once the ongoing Vault Blitz ends, this event will be transformed into a well-known Playoff Event. The Playoff will happen regularly and feature attractive rewards and a comprehensive set of objectives, including ways to make good use of the Fortune Keys you've collected. We are excited to hear your feedback on this first Playoff of its kind! And guess what? In August, Mech Arena hits its 2nd Anniversary since going global! As usual, we are preparing special events to mark the occasion and wrapping some nice gifts for you. Also, we highly recommend that you keep an eye on Mech Arena's official YouTube channel during the Anniversary festivities, as some very special guests will be joining Freyja in the studio! That's all for today's Mech Arena Roundup. Leave your questions and thoughts in the comments, and have a fantastic week! See you at our Anniversary party! #MechArena #MechArenaRoundup "
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Post by BigBear on Jul 29, 2023 13:08:11 GMT -5
wait what? Is this confirmed? I have like 120 keys saved up. Maybe I should just blow it all? I'm having the same dilemma,I have just over 140 keys saved and don't know if to cash them all in now or wait for the revamp. I have read the article several times but it's just not clear what their actual plans are just that this is the last Vault Blitz in its current form.
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Post by nocluevok on Jul 30, 2023 9:16:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't think keys would go away, considering they are the new final reward for individual bot tasks. Hopefully their new idea doesn't involve winning skins.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 31, 2023 7:03:20 GMT -5
Well, I decided I couldn't take the risk and blew my 130 keys. Got like 50k credits and 375 acoins. The rest was useless purple skins. Oh well. I'm pretty close to done with this game anyway. Didn't play at all during the weekend. I tend to play less on weekends cause I'm busy running around doing stuff but this was the first time I didn't even miss playing and didn't even think about playing. Now that it's Monday, I'll probably pick it up again during my breaks but meh, don't really feel the urge.
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 31, 2023 10:28:12 GMT -5
I just spent my 130 keys. Won 1125 A-Coins so I'm happy. Also, winning skins adds 50 points towards the Playoff Event. Not sure I really want Disrupter 8 but I wouldn't mind winning more implant scrap, now that they've discontinued the weekly 3x 5000 for $0.99 deal. I actually have enough scrap to make sure my implants are maxed on whatever five pilots I am playing but I'd keep buying just to avoid having to switch out stuff all the time.
Haven't been playing as much lately either. Part of it is life stuff, but having the Alien X maps 3 times in a row for tournament hasn't helped. They're kinda boring and getting jostled and blocked constantly by your own AI is really annoying.
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Post by salvia on Jul 31, 2023 10:35:38 GMT -5
Have 400+ keys left. I'll let them be and see what's coming with the *downgrade* of the Vault Blitz 🤷♂️
I'm prtty sure they'll want us to compete, not with A-coins, but with Fortune Keys for these upcoming "Vault Playoffs".
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 31, 2023 11:38:16 GMT -5
Have 400+ keys left. I'll let them be and see what's coming with the *downgrade* of the Vault Blitz 🤷♂️ I'm prtty sure they'll want us to compete, not with A-coins, but with Fortune Keys for these upcoming "Vault Playoffs". I imagine they will add tasks like "spend X keys and win Y points" towards the Playoff Event. I guess the question is what do also get from the act of spending keys. When you spend A-Coins/Credits then you buy stuff. When you open crates, you get blueprints, etc. If all they are doing is getting rid of the Vault Blitz bar that automatically wins you 400 A-Coins, this might be ok. But if they also change what is in Fortune Crates, or the odds of winning better prizes then this could be bad. Generally I feel like they don't push it to hard when they make these kind of changes to minimize the immediate blowback, but still I'd expect it to be a downgrade overall.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 8, 2023 1:10:43 GMT -5
Guaranteed 400 coins for 35 keys is officially no more.
Playoff event runs for 2 weeks, like vault blitz, BUT only top 3 get coins (800/400/200)
Base rewards for tasks are 3*36 BP, 5k credits, 1 Gold crate, 1 amateur crate
Pole position during the 2 week playoff:
1st: 800 coins, 30k credits, 3 basic implant crates
2nd: 400 coins, 20k credits, 2 basic implant crates
3rd: 200 coins, 15k credits, 1 basic implant crate
Top 10% are the only runner up prizes:
8k credits and 3 gold crates.
For. Two. Weeks. Of. Grind.
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Post by salvia on Aug 8, 2023 3:09:48 GMT -5
That's might just be the final nail in the coffin for me. I already spent most of my time on Diablo Immortal of late, and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon.
I'll just log in to Mech Arena twice a day to collect the implants, and maybe do a few battles every now and then.
But that's about it, really. I'm fed up with Paylarium's predatory practices.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 8, 2023 7:21:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done too. Just playing my dailies. Spent whatever Acoins I had left for chaingun implants that I will likely never use. I was close to maxing a few mechs but that probably won't happen now either. Maybe I'll splurge to finishing either Eclipse or Bastion - leaning towards Eclipse since they're both at same level. Still waiting for the next good mech game!
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Post by BigBear on Aug 8, 2023 8:29:38 GMT -5
Another reduction in free A coins means very little incentive to play unless your willing to drop money to buy them,and let's face it we already see what a cluster buck the current events are like with certain players winning top prizes by tens of thousands of points.Im not getting sucked into that on top of the current crap,Blitz was one thing I looked forward to and Paylarium killed that off too.
Add to that the new incoming progress path and the certain bump up in A coin costs for items the grind is going to get even worse.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Aug 8, 2023 8:36:17 GMT -5
Well it was good while it lasted.. I've already slimmed my play way down but these changes are moving the posts to far.
I'll check back to see if you guys uncover a replacement, just feel free to sticky that when it happens so I don't have to dig.
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Post by BigBear on Aug 8, 2023 9:11:25 GMT -5
The masochist in me is telling to download War Robots after a six year absence and blow the dust off my hanger and see how it fairs against the current meta ,can't be any worse than this 「dookie」 show. I still miss Mech Battle,will never understand why the developers gave up on it or didn't sell the game to another developer.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 8, 2023 10:27:50 GMT -5
The masochist in me is telling to download War Robots after a six year absence and blow the dust off my hanger and see how it fairs against the current meta ,can't be any worse than this 「dookie」 show. I still miss Mech Battle,will never understand why the developers gave up on it or didn't sell the game to another developer. Last time I looked at my War Robots hangar, I was doing the placement matches that would decide if I stayed in Champion Division or not. I never finished those matches. My gear, I think, was all max Level 9 Mk1, so not sure where that will land me in the Divisions if I tried playing for real. I think the newest mech I got was the Scorpion and I might have a Ravana or two. After the freedom of looking around in MA and manual aim and vertical view, I don't think I can go back to War Robots with it's claustrophobic views and mushy targeting. Mech Battle had promise but I think what happened was that it was very balanced but that lead to not many people spending money on the game, which lead to a nudge for some pay to win content which made people stop playing. Don't quote me though.
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Post by OU812? on Aug 8, 2023 11:16:44 GMT -5
The masochist in me is telling to download War Robots after a six year absence and blow the dust off my hanger and see how it fairs against the current meta ,can't be any worse than this 「dookie」 show. I still miss Mech Battle,will never understand why the developers gave up on it or didn't sell the game to another developer. Tried WW this summer. My hanger doesn’t last long and I usually get blown away. They completely changed up drones too and there’s so much content I think the game has become to complicated for my tastes. Their targeting issues are inexcusable. I think I’d have to pay money for new content to get any enjoyment out of WW.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 8, 2023 11:28:20 GMT -5
The masochist in me is telling to download War Robots after a six year absence and blow the dust off my hanger and see how it fairs against the current meta ,can't be any worse than this 「dookie」 show. I still miss Mech Battle,will never understand why the developers gave up on it or didn't sell the game to another developer. I opened up War Robots awhile back, and it’s still more of a CF than MA, even with these latest developments. Pigsonic makes no bones about it just being a whale hunt now. MA is getting closer, but it’s not quite there yet.
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Post by BigBear on Aug 8, 2023 11:59:20 GMT -5
After careful assesment War Robots is staying off my devices,but damn Paylarium for making this game such a grind fest with their greed,I wonder if they plan to add A coins to any other events or is it just a complete removal in the hope people buy the upcoming (100% positive) brand new A coin packages in the shop.
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Post by OU812? on Aug 8, 2023 12:16:37 GMT -5
After careful assesment War Robots is staying off my devices,but damn Paylarium for making this game such a grind fest with their greed,I wonder if they plan to add A coins to any other events or is it just a complete removal in the hope people buy the upcoming (100% positive) brand new A coin packages in the shop. I think you’re right. The squeeze is on. To their credit, Plarium’s been pretty generous in the past. Now they want the player base to pay more for the resources they need to upgrade content. Unfortunately that can be really disappointing and cause the players to close their wallets. I know my spending has went down since the Mech and Weapon Update and the transparency of MM. Too many made to win/made to lose matches. I’ve literally given matches mono-gluteal efforts and watched blue whomp on red but I’ve also tried my best and watched my hanger get one shot killed to oblivion. MM makes me feel like I’m being played.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 8, 2023 13:48:35 GMT -5
After careful assesment War Robots is staying off my devices,but damn Paylarium for making this game such a grind fest with their greed,I wonder if they plan to add A coins to any other events or is it just a complete removal in the hope people buy the upcoming (100% positive) brand new A coin packages in the shop. I think you’re right. The squeeze is on. To their credit, Plarium’s been pretty generous in the past. Now they want the player base to pay more for the resources they need to upgrade content. Unfortunately that can be really disappointing and cause the players to close their wallets. I know my spending has went down since the Mech and Weapon Update and the transparency of MM. Too many made to win/made to lose matches. I’ve literally given matches mono-gluteal efforts and watched blue whomp on red but I’ve also tried my best and watched my hanger get one shot killed to oblivion. MM makes me feel like I’m being played. The sad thing is, like War Robots, top teir is the worst teir. Everything is Railgun, EM and Disk launchers player-wise. Maybe An arc torrent mech here or there, while the AI just plays in ways that sometimes make them look like clans on coms. Once gear hub releases, they'll officially be at the 3 tiered player base War Robots has. Fun early game/low teir MM, Middling MM beingnthe melting pot,satisfaction and rage, and top teir is wallet warrior territory. A lot of the older playerbase got shafted by all of the changes to make it to this point, being confronted with an explosion of high end gear and a literal nerf to most of what old hats have been using forever. The only silver lining to this game over War Robots, is that the MM still seems to predominantly focus on Squad power as it's determining factor. For the people sitting on a bunch of gear power crept out of relevance at high SP, it's a death sentence. For new players, taking it slow keeps the game enjoyable, but chasing any shiny new upgrades just starts the slippery slope into needing to spend more and more just to keep up with the AI. Just so you guys know, when I removed all of my R6 mechs from my hangar on my higher teir acct, there was a significant change in what the AI spawned regularly, but not players. The problem there, was that what I was running was still sub-par compared to all of the epic(purple) grade items (Helix, sentinel, Orion, redeemer), while my highest SP hangar fights AI fully decked out with 5 legendary mechs.
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Post by salvia on Aug 8, 2023 17:24:37 GMT -5
So I had a look and I still have 640+ fortune keys on my main account. Not gonna spend them on their crap playoffs, wgere they wouldn't last long anyway.
I've got a feeling that Paylarium might have to backtrack to some extent over this move, which is prolly gonna hurt their F2P player base more than they had anticipated. Let's see how much of a discontent there will be once players realise they've been thoroughly shafted.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 8, 2023 17:25:57 GMT -5
The contest card is only 20 players, where 4-20 are all "top 10%"
So it's just a two week long tournament card. The worst part of tournament, losing out to psychos that grind thousands of points, but instead of a 24 hour period, it's 2 weeks.
Also, one of the main tasks is specifically for 5v5...when tournament alternates between 5v5 and FFA.
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Post by OU812? on Aug 8, 2023 17:41:20 GMT -5
So I had a look and I still have 640+ fortune keys on my main account. Not gonna spend them on their crap playoffs, wgere they wouldn't last long anyway. I've got a feeling that Paylarium might have to backtrack to some extent over this move, which is prolly gonna hurt their F2P player base more than they had anticipated. Let's see how much of a discontent there will be once players realise they've been thoroughly shafted. 🤯 Dude, spend those keys. I’ve gotten a considerable amount of a-Coins and creds from Fortune keys. Spend em when skin acquisition scores points in playoffs. But yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if Plarium has to rethink this one.
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 9, 2023 0:10:51 GMT -5
So I had a look and I still have 640+ fortune keys on my main account. Not gonna spend them on their crap playoffs, wgere they wouldn't last long anyway. I've got a feeling that Paylarium might have to backtrack to some extent over this move, which is prolly gonna hurt their F2P player base more than they had anticipated. Let's see how much of a discontent there will be once players realise they've been thoroughly shafted. If your crate percentages are in the same range as mine of approximately 10% for 375 A-Coins, 5% for 750 A-Coins, 24% for 50k credits and 40% for 25k credits, then those 640 keys should net you 4,800 A-Coins and 1.4M credits. I would definitely stop hoarding them. They don't really count towards any other event. It is interesting to note that we used to have Playoff Events where Fortune Crates did count towards winning extra prizes on top of the 400 guaranteed A-Coins per Vault Blitz. Also we got like 3 skins from Vault Blitz as well each time. While the overall amount of skins clogging up the Fortune Crates is totally ridiculous, getting those skins minisculely improved the odds of winning currency instead. I am pissed about the change. Hopefully they get enough blowback that they improve on this. But I can weather losing the 400 AC every three weeks, particularly as ads now bring in 210+ a week with that "Watch 2 ads" task. Still it's a real cheapskate move. I feel like the new Gear Hub coming out really has them scared because so much gear is about to become available for A-Coins.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 9, 2023 2:38:12 GMT -5
AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAH Nope. Items not available for coins have a $ icon and sell at Plarium rank-up-math prices:
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Post by BigBear on Aug 9, 2023 3:18:42 GMT -5
With the upcoming changes to Blitz I don't see the point of keys now, will you need keys to enter the Blitz tournament or will players get assigned similar to how tournament is now ?.
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Post by salvia on Aug 9, 2023 3:39:00 GMT -5
🤯 Dude, spend those keys. I’ve gotten a considerable amount of a-Coins and creds from Fortune keys. Spend em when skin acquisition scores points in playoffs. But yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if Plarium has to rethink this one. If your crate percentages are in the same range as mine of approximately 10% for 375 A-Coins, 5% for 750 A-Coins, 24% for 50k credits and 40% for 25k credits, then those 640 keys should net you 4,800 A-Coins and 1.4M credits. I would definitely stop hoarding them. They don't really count towards any other event. Thanks for your concern guys. You know, at some point I had 1000+ fortune keys 😅 and then decided to spend roughly half that amount. Which indeed netted me a decent amount of A-coins and boatloads of credits. I meant to say that with this crappy change, which won't even give me 400 A-coins along with whatever skins/resources I might get opening crates, I'd rather sit it out until this greedy company is compelled to roll back the changes. I play so little nowadays that it doesn't matter much whether I spend my fortune keys now (since the change is in effect) or later (when the change might get scrapped and the usual freebies reinstated). It is interesting to note that we used to have Playoff Events where Fortune Crates did count towards winning extra prizes on top of the 400 guaranteed A-Coins per Vault Blitz. Also we got like 3 skins from Vault Blitz as well each time. While the overall amount of skins clogging up the Fortune Crates is totally ridiculous, getting those skins minisculely improved the odds of winning currency instead. I am pissed about the change. Hopefully they get enough blowback that they improve on this. But I can weather losing the 400 AC every three weeks, particularly as ads now bring in 210+ a week with that "Watch 2 ads" task. Still it's a real cheapskate move. I feel like the new Gear Hub coming out really has them scared because so much gear is about to become available for A-Coins. Yep, even Scape211 is bit.ching hard about this move : And other commentators like Mixfant : Hopefully something good for us comes out of big vloggers' rants.
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