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Post by OU812? on Jun 29, 2023 12:48:38 GMT -5
What’s the community’s thoughts on Plarium’s newest edition? Besides the fact that ‘chain gun’ sounds cool. From my perspective, it is interesting that the CG8 is as damaging as my trusty CB12s.   |
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 29, 2023 13:10:01 GMT -5
I haven't looked at them at all. When I saw the description, my thought was: Oh, Punishers are coming to MA!
I figured they would probably be a cross between Mini Guns and Carbines, so kinda like a carbine that fires full auto, with the full auto speeding up after a bit. I think it would be a great harassing weapon where you can drain a target of it's HP before it realized it was being targeted.
As usual, I'm not interested in it until it can be had relatively cheaply.
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Post by OU812? on Jun 29, 2023 13:26:19 GMT -5
I haven't looked at them at all. When I saw the description, my thought was: Oh, Punishers are coming to MA! I figured they would probably be a cross between Mini Guns and Carbines, so kinda like a carbine that fires full auto, with the full auto speeding up after a bit. I think it would be a great harassing weapon where you can drain a target of it's HP before it realized it was being targeted. As usual, I'm not interested in it until it can be had relatively cheaply. Scape had an interesting review of the CG8. Gotta say they look more interesting to me than mini-guns ever did. The EN8 CG intrigues me simply because I can’t give up on light mechs. I am getting frustrated by the legendary content though. Legendary BPs drop at a rate that seems prohibitive. I’ve had ERM8s for quite a while now. Nowhere near showtime readiness. Makes me leery of gold content. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 29, 2023 13:52:15 GMT -5
Honestly, as cool as it sounds, it reveals a glaringly huge problem with MA, and that's power creep of new stuff. To have a 8EN weapon now do as much if not more damage than a legacy 12EN weapon is just stupid. Yes, I love the idea of my light mechs getting a buff with this and doing CB12 type of damage in about the same time (from appearances), but come on, the bigger issue is that the CB12 needs a buff bad.
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Post by S1E1 on Jun 29, 2023 14:31:01 GMT -5
I'm.waiting until 12s come out to make a judgement. Even then, I imagine if they aren't that good, they'll get a post-release buff, since they're legendary. They seem like an interesting design but I'm always leary of sustained fire weapons. Trying not to win CG8s in the current Playoff event. I got enough legendary gear eating up my blueprints as it is.
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Post by OU812? on Jun 29, 2023 17:46:53 GMT -5
Honestly, as cool as it sounds, it reveals a glaringly huge problem with MA, and that's power creep of new stuff. To have a 8EN weapon now do as much if not more damage than a legacy 12EN weapon is just stupid. Yes, I love the idea of my light mechs getting a buff with this and doing CB12 type of damage in about the same time (from appearances), but come on, the bigger issue is that the CB12 needs a buff bad. Completely agree. It is alarming than an 8EN weapon would compare so closely to a 12EN weapon. CGs could create some trouble for scout/light mech enthusiasts. Many players were pointing out that MA has a damage problem when the Mech and Weapon Balance Update was established. This only adds to it. Wonder what ‘cure’ gets pitched to the player base? For 🤑🤑🤑 of course. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 30, 2023 7:02:36 GMT -5
I think it would be fair to lower the max and optimum range and the increase the shot spread of the Chain gun and increase the max and optimum range as well lower the shot spread of the Carbines. That way, you don't have to adjust the damage that much and the Carbine gain utility as a quasi sniper. Of course, this would totally kill the Gauss Rifle but who uses that anymore anyway?
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Post by OU812? on Jun 30, 2023 9:15:03 GMT -5
I think it would be fair to lower the max and optimum range and the increase the shot spread of the Chain gun and increase the max and optimum range as well lower the shot spread of the Carbines. That way, you don't have to adjust the damage that much and the Carbine gain utility as a quasi sniper. Of course, this would totally kill the Gauss Rifle but who uses that anymore anyway? Those are good ideas. If you watch Scape’s vid the CGs almost seem like the machine gun sniper equivalent you alluded to. And that ammo clip can last for a decent amount a time. Like you pointed out earlier, the power creep is on and players like me will have to decide if they want to merely play for what fun that can be had or whether to chase a meta and upgrade to significantly better content so they can compete. Especially against other players. I’m vexed a bit. I received a HR8 deal for 🤑8 yesterday and took it in hope of reliving some Jav Shadow glory days, but I’ve got a sinking suspicion that it’s an exercise in futility. Shoulda just got the HR12 and an Eclipse and walla, similar vibes. I went all in on the Gauss Rifle 10. Out of luck I’d acquired great implants for them and it has mechanics that appeal to me. I want them to excel but they just couldn’t regularly. AI sniping is just too prevalent. I usually tried them on a Orion and Shadow. Maybe I need to try ‘em on a shielded mech, but something tells me to just move on. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 30, 2023 10:38:02 GMT -5
I picked up the HR12 and even got a level pack for it. But, I refuse to spend any more on level packs as they get incrementally more expensive.
I haven't tried out the HR12 at all yet. I don't have good implants (purple) for it yet so there's no point. It'll just slowly acquire bps organically I guess.
On another note, I finally maxed my DL16 so when I run my Redox, pilot, mech and weapons all show purple stars. Too bad my implants aren't fully maxed yet!
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Post by OU812? on Jul 6, 2023 14:32:53 GMT -5
CGs in action:
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 6, 2023 16:06:29 GMT -5
I did something stupid and blindly threw resources at EM12 for some strange reason....ugh... But, it did put me on the track to getting the CG8 at 1 star so something good is coming from it! Still no Heavy pilot available though...
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Post by salvia on Jul 7, 2023 1:36:41 GMT -5
Still no Heavy pilot available though... Well, the Heavy Furry has just been released as part of the new event 🐯 Got the CG8, and at 1 star it really does damage like cat's piss. The furry legendary pilot would help a great deal to make it viable without having to upgrade it too much. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 7, 2023 12:30:41 GMT -5
Yeah but it's super maxed vs weak mechs. I mean, I appreciate the video link, but too many YTers do this where they overhype lower-level weapons by running weaker SP hangars. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 7, 2023 12:32:58 GMT -5
Still no Heavy pilot available though... Well, the Heavy Furry has just been released as part of the new event 🐯 Got the CG8, and at 1 star it really does damage like cat's piss. The furry legendary pilot would help a great deal to make it viable without having to upgrade it too much.  |
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Post by OU812? on Aug 5, 2023 8:46:42 GMT -5
Now that chain guns have been out for a bit, I’m thinking the EN8s aren’t worth much. Time will tell, but you’d need something to have the durability for sustained fire and light mechs don’t have it. A minigun EN8 might even be more viable?
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 5, 2023 9:04:29 GMT -5
Now that chain guns have been out for a bit, I’m thinking the EN8s aren’t worth much. Time will tell, but you’d need something to have the durability for sustained fire and light mechs don’t have it. A minigun EN8 might even be more viable? The CG12s definitely aren't worth it. I'm facing them on AI Surges and they're pretty weak. If AI can't make a weapon look good, then... Miniguns are definitely better for now. The fact that CGs aren't popular makes me wonder if they'll buff them through. |
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Post by OU812? on Aug 5, 2023 9:19:23 GMT -5
Now that chain guns have been out for a bit, I’m thinking the EN8s aren’t worth much. Time will tell, but you’d need something to have the durability for sustained fire and light mechs don’t have it. A minigun EN8 might even be more viable? The CG12s definitely aren't worth it. I'm facing them on AI Surges and they're pretty weak. If AI can't make a weapon look good, then... Miniguns are definitely better for now. The fact that CGs aren't popular makes me wonder if they'll buff them through. I noticed the CGs lack on punch on AI bots too. I agree that they may get a buff in the near future. |
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