Kable
Destrier
Posts: 20
Karma: 36
Pilot name: Kable
Platform: Android
League: Expert
Favorite robot: Strider/Mercury
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Post by Kable on Jun 19, 2023 18:22:09 GMT -5
Am just looking for bots that aren't the meta but, still viable in this meta? The Ravana looks like it's still good the Skyros, Shell?
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Post by 079 on Jun 19, 2023 18:54:40 GMT -5
Skyros is fringe meta, as while it is really good, the rust and Reaper takeover does hurt it a lot (the Theseus pilot does not protect against those). Ravana is strong but not meta, as it struggles with beacons, but a well-played one is definitely a pain to kill. Shell is kinda just fine, as it can do work but only a couple physical shields for defense does not cut it these days.
As for other off-meta but still good bots, I recommend the following ones, which are presented in no particular order (all of which are in the workshop!):
- Invader
- Hawk
- Typhon
- Demeter
- Orochi
- Behemoth
- Scorpion
- Erebus
- Fenrir (only with the Bernadette Wolf pilot)
- Mender (only with the Marie Leclair pilot)
- Raven (only with the Nessa Riggs pilot)
- Ares (only with the new Warren Ozu pilot)
- Hellburner (only with the new Oliver Song pilot)
- Ao Jun (honorable mention since it needs to be played exceptionally well, only with Yang Lee pilot)
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Post by gus169 on Jun 19, 2023 21:17:29 GMT -5
I'd agree with 079's list there - all still viable. I'd probably add the Phantom and the Blitz (if you like to run), and suggest that the Reaper might reduce Bernadette's advantage over Wodinson (in the Fenrir). He got a buff a little way back that made me like him again.
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Post by 079 on Jun 20, 2023 16:09:07 GMT -5
I'd agree with 079's list there - all still viable. I'd probably add the Phantom and the Blitz (if you like to run), and suggest that the Reaper might reduce Bernadette's advantage over Wodinson (in the Fenrir). He got a buff a little way back that made me like him again. I think you got you pilots mixed up… Bernadette boosts base health while Wodinson boosts the combat mode’s resistance. Reaper completely bypasses resistance, so Wodinson is literally useless against it. A similar situation applies to the rust and blast effects, as they also counter resistance. I do remember Wodinson getting buffed and people liking the buff at the time (I think this was nearly a year ago now!). However, now that the meta has become a rock-paper-scissors situation with weapons bypassing defenses, raw health is really the way to go. |
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Post by gus169 on Jun 20, 2023 20:28:25 GMT -5
I'd agree with 079's list there - all still viable. I'd probably add the Phantom and the Blitz (if you like to run), and suggest that the Reaper might reduce Bernadette's advantage over Wodinson (in the Fenrir). He got a buff a little way back that made me like him again. I think you got you pilots mixed up… Bernadette boosts base health while Wodinson boosts the combat mode’s resistance. Reaper completely bypasses resistance, so Wodinson is literally useless against it. A similar situation applies to the rust and blast effects, as they also counter resistance. I do remember Wodinson getting buffed and people liking the buff at the time (I think this was nearly a year ago now!). However, now that the meta has become a rock-paper-scissors situation with weapons bypassing defenses, raw health is really the way to go. Wodinson keeps the Aegis. edit - and yes, you're right. I was mistaking Bernadette's skill there for a 'defense' based one. The durability boost she gives is phenomenal and she remains the clear frontrunner for the seat. |
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Jun 21, 2023 9:10:02 GMT -5
Skyros is fringe meta, as while it is really good, the rust and Reaper takeover does hurt it a lot (the Theseus pilot does not protect against those). Ravana is strong but not meta, as it struggles with beacons, but a well-played one is definitely a pain to kill. Shell is kinda just fine, as it can do work but only a couple physical shields for defense does not cut it these days. As for other off-meta but still good bots, I recommend the following ones, which are presented in no particular order (all of which are in the workshop!): - Invader - Hawk - Typhon - Demeter - Orochi - Behemoth - Scorpion - Erebus - Fenrir (only with the Bernadette Wolf pilot) - Mender (only with the Marie Leclair pilot) - Raven (only with the Nessa Riggs pilot) - Ares (only with the new Warren Ozu pilot) - Hellburner (only with the new Oliver Song pilot) - Ao Jun (honorable mention since it needs to be played exceptionally well, only with Yang Lee pilot) I agree with this too, I still stand by my Erebus and fafnir |
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Post by 079 on Jun 21, 2023 15:12:22 GMT -5
Skyros is fringe meta, as while it is really good, the rust and Reaper takeover does hurt it a lot (the Theseus pilot does not protect against those). Ravana is strong but not meta, as it struggles with beacons, but a well-played one is definitely a pain to kill. Shell is kinda just fine, as it can do work but only a couple physical shields for defense does not cut it these days. As for other off-meta but still good bots, I recommend the following ones, which are presented in no particular order (all of which are in the workshop!): - Invader - Hawk - Typhon - Demeter - Orochi - Behemoth - Scorpion - Erebus - Fenrir (only with the Bernadette Wolf pilot) - Mender (only with the Marie Leclair pilot) - Raven (only with the Nessa Riggs pilot) - Ares (only with the new Warren Ozu pilot) - Hellburner (only with the new Oliver Song pilot) - Ao Jun (honorable mention since it needs to be played exceptionally well, only with Yang Lee pilot) I agree with this too, I still stand by my Erebus and fafnir If you could share your Fafnir, I would appreciate that! I have managed to make Ao Jun (barely) work in this meta, but have not been so fortunate with Fafnir. I do not consider myself a Fafnir expert though, so I am open to advice from the more experienced. |
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Jun 21, 2023 15:45:51 GMT -5
I agree with this too, I still stand by my Erebus and fafnir If you could share your Fafnir, I would appreciate that! I have managed to make Ao Jun (barely) work in this meta, but have not been so fortunate with Fafnir. I do not consider myself a Fafnir expert though, so I am open to advice from the more experienced. i currently run the razdor setup, it works well, speed pilot skills and I may swap immunity amp for 1 nitro unit with 1 NA and 1 RA |
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Jun 21, 2023 15:46:47 GMT -5
Speeds isn’t always key, you can swap out the speed for damage and add back the IA
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airfix2
Destrier
Posts: 100
Karma: 176
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Post by airfix2 on Jun 21, 2023 16:07:40 GMT -5
Loki is somewhat still in the meta. As long as no one comes along with quantum radar, then u can do really well in it
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