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Post by S1E1 on Feb 14, 2023 3:48:55 GMT -5
I'm trying to follow the "official" (aka lousy) Mech Arena forum a little more often. This item, which the official MA Community Manager responded to yesterday caught my eye. Apparently we shouldn't expect the discount removal to return in our lifetimes. OK, maybe it's not that bad, but we might as well be in Day One it seems in terms of the wait...  |
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Post by salvia on Feb 14, 2023 5:48:48 GMT -5
It's still about the alleged "discount bug" which supposedly wrecks everything anytime the discount is applied 🥱
I'm only looking forward to their next dev vlog. But they prolly won't say much about this mystery "bug".
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Post by OU812? on Feb 14, 2023 7:30:14 GMT -5
Fudge. I don’t believe in any bug.
Ugh. I don’t wanna move implants around without the discount. I’ve got a lot of changes planned.
Now my quandary is how much longer do I wait or do I just give in?
Thanks for sharing. At least we know.
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Post by salvia on Feb 14, 2023 8:17:40 GMT -5
Now my quandary is how much longer do I wait or do I just give in? I've half solved this dilemma by removing about half of the implants which I had planned to switch. Then again, those weren't maxed out legendaries, so the losses incurred were bearable. I felt that the opportunity cost was too important to leave some implants on now-discarded pilots. |
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Post by Koalabear on Feb 14, 2023 10:25:37 GMT -5
I already bit the bullet and changed my pilots around and paid for the privilege to do so... ugh, not surprised at all.
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Post by S1E1 on Feb 14, 2023 14:56:39 GMT -5
I'm considering switching out Asami. Did the math and in terms of real $ value paying A-Coins doesn't make sense. Switching my mostly Level 5 implants returns 10,320 scrap for free and 34,400 scrap for 2,250 A-Coins. So that's a difference of only 24,080 scrap. At the real money value of 160 A-Coins per US dollar, that works out to $14 worth of A-Coins. By contrast, you can buy 15k worth of scrap for $2.97 three weeks out of four. So using A-Coins is actually a total ripoff.
But I grind at least 2900 A-Coins for free each week and even with the scrap deals, I am backed up on implant upgrades, so I'm still thinking of doing it. Gonna mull it over a little. The alternative is get Major for 3,810 A-Coins and start upgrading him. Costs more but at least I get another legendary pilot.
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Post by salvia on Feb 14, 2023 15:22:43 GMT -5
I'm considering switching out Asami. Did the math and in terms of real $ value paying A-Coins doesn't make sense. Switching my mostly Level 5 implants returns 10,320 scrap for free and 34,400 scrap for 2,250 A-Coins. So that's a difference of only 24,080 scrap. At the real money value of 160 A-Coins per US dollar, that works out to $14 worth of A-Coins. By contrast, you can buy 15k worth of scrap for $2.97 three weeks out of four. So using A-Coins is actually a total ripoff. Good calculation, goes on to show how important it is to put hard numbers on the alternatives. But I grind at least 2900 A-Coins for free each week and even with the scrap deals, I am backed up on implant upgrades, so I'm still thinking of doing it. Gonna mull it over a little. The alternative is get Major for 3,810 A-Coins and start upgrading him. Costs more but at least I get another legendary pilot. But even with a new pilot, you're gonna need the implants left on Asami, no ? Or do you mean discarding the idea of removing Asami's implants altogether, and start working on a new project (acquire and level up a new pilot) ? In the latter case, unless you do plan on using assault weapons, you'll prolly be better served investing these A-coins elsewhere - or tucking them aside until Plarium releases new legendaries (there are two legendary snipers already, so the rest should follow). |
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Post by S1E1 on Feb 14, 2023 16:46:05 GMT -5
But I grind at least 2900 A-Coins for free each week and even with the scrap deals, I am backed up on implant upgrades, so I'm still thinking of doing it. Gonna mull it over a little. The alternative is get Major for 3,810 A-Coins and start upgrading him. Costs more but at least I get another legendary pilot. But even with a new pilot, you're gonna need the implants left on Asami, no ? Or do you mean discarding the idea of removing Asami's implants altogether, and start working on a new project (acquire and level up a new pilot) ? In the latter case, unless you do plan on using assault weapons, you'll prolly be better served investing these A-coins elsewhere - or tucking them aside until Plarium releases new legendaries (there are two legendary snipers already, so the rest should follow). Right now what I have an ArcTorrent setup on Asami who's at Rank 5 plus the Zeph Pulse Range implant at Level 4. That's what I was using until I got Myna, who isn't quite maxed but is now at Rank 6. And I already have G-Lock maxed for Arcs too. Really 3 Arc setups is wasteful and I just don't use Zeph despite the implant. I'd have switched her out already if the discount was up and running, which was the original plan. What I need is a 2nd EMR Rifle sniper Legendary Pilot and an Legendary Pilot setup for shotguns. Already using the close-range Neymar as a 3rd DL pilot (and I do run 3 DL setups at a time often) so can't use him for shotguns. I am getting close to being able to run a viable 2nd EMR builds but I need a pilot. I think I can wait a week to see if a Baron A-Coin gacha event happens but then I should make a call. Having 3 LPs setup for EMRs could be handy too as I have the 16s, 12s, and 8s. Shotguns won't be in the mix for a while still so I can hold off a little on that, but I'd probably prefer to use Myna for that than Major. I don't play Carbines a ton, but they can be fun in CPC. I think having him set up for those would make me want to play them more. And I would prefer to save the missile/assault Neymar for Missiles/VRPGs along with my Nova who's at R4 already. Currently I am using Red (blue pilot) for Carbines who is at R4 too, but I'd rather switch her to Pulse Cannons for Achievement tasks. Anyway, that's my thinking so far. I'll sit on it for a week and see what I do... |
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Post by salvia on Feb 14, 2023 20:23:09 GMT -5
Right now what I have an ArcTorrent setup on Asami who's at Rank 5 plus the Zeph Pulse Range implant at Level 4. That's what I was using until I got Myna, who isn't quite maxed but is now at Rank 6. And I already have G-Lock maxed for Arcs too. Really 3 Arc setups is wasteful and I just don't use Zeph despite the implant. I'd have switched her out already if the discount was up and running, which was the original plan. What I need is a 2nd EMR Rifle sniper Legendary Pilot and an Legendary Pilot setup for shotguns. Already using the close-range Neymar as a 3rd DL pilot (and I do run 3 DL setups at a time often) so can't use him for shotguns. I am getting close to being able to run a viable 2nd EMR builds but I need a pilot. I think I can wait a week to see if a Baron A-Coin gacha event happens but then I should make a call. Having 3 LPs setup for EMRs could be handy too as I have the 16s, 12s, and 8s. Shotguns won't be in the mix for a while still so I can hold off a little on that, but I'd probably prefer to use Myna for that than Major. I don't play Carbines a ton, but they can be fun in CPC. I think having him set up for those would make me want to play them more. And I would prefer to save the missile/assault Neymar for Missiles/VRPGs along with my Nova who's at R4 already. Currently I am using Red (blue pilot) for Carbines who is at R4 too, but I'd rather switch her to Pulse Cannons for Achievement tasks. Anyway, that's my thinking so far. I'll sit on it for a week and see what I do... Ok I can see how 3 Arc setups is one too many. Then again, what if... or rather when Plarium releases Arc 16 ? 🤡 In which case, it'd make sense to leave Asami as is, and get a new legendary pilot as you're contemplating - Baron or Major. |
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Post by S1E1 on Feb 14, 2023 23:22:19 GMT -5
Ok I can see how 3 Arc setups is one too many. Then again, what if... or rather when Plarium releases Arc 16 ? 🤡 In which case, it'd make sense to leave Asami as is, and get a new legendary pilot as you're contemplating - Baron or Major. You're right it's probably only a matter of when not if, lol.Although if that happened I'd doubt I'd run the AT10s any more. Arcs are solid but shorter distance, you don't want to have too many in your hangar and go up against human players with EMRs and Discs. Running the numbers does help bring perspective. Keeping an Legendary Pilot out of the lineup really isn't worth just 24,000 scrap. That's only a little more than the last level upgrade for an epic implant. I just got my Redeemer up to R6 and am going to run it at 20EN for a while as my EMR8 & 12 should be at R4.7 and 5.1 in a couple of days. Hopefully that is enough to run a viable EMR Redeemer. I'll have to buy all the bps to take my EMR12 up to R6 and double it, so that'll be an extra couple weeks probably, but then I can try Killshot and Surge build with 2x12. Been grinding hard for this, excited to see how well it works. |
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Post by Flukey*Lukey on Feb 15, 2023 4:32:33 GMT -5
But I grind at least 2900 A-Coins for free each week and even with the scrap deals, I am backed up on implant upgrades, so I'm still thinking of doing it. Gonna mull it over a little. The alternative is get Major for 3,810 A-Coins and start upgrading him. Costs more but at least I get another legendary pilot. Could I ask how you get so many acoins a week? I assume it’s through tourney but I’m wondering if I’m missing any tricks |
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Post by S1E1 on Feb 15, 2023 6:14:59 GMT -5
But I grind at least 2900 A-Coins for free each week and even with the scrap deals, I am backed up on implant upgrades, so I'm still thinking of doing it. Gonna mull it over a little. The alternative is get Major for 3,810 A-Coins and start upgrading him. Costs more but at least I get another legendary pilot. Could I ask how you get so many acoins a week? I assume it’s through tourney but I’m wondering if I’m missing any tricks Yeah tourney mostly. I usually skip the first day's heat but then I try to take 1st the remaining days which if I can pull it off is 1,950 A-Coins per week. Then there's 70 A-Coins from the 10 AC daily task and usually 400 from two Weekly Tasks. Other events, particularly Specialization Sprees make up the rest. Of course Sprees are often dependent on spending to buy the mech/weapon needed. The only other A-Coin related purchase I make is the Battle Pass which gets you 1,000 A-Coins per season and is the most economical resource purchase in the game. Until last year, I didn't have the hangar to earn that much in tourney. I'd try for 1st in Masters for 400 and between 2nd and 6th in Grandmaster for 250-500 until I finally had a couple builds that could earn consistently each game. Grandmaster is still a grind though and I spend several hours each Sunday on it. O_o |
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Post by Flukey*Lukey on Feb 15, 2023 9:17:38 GMT -5
Makes sense, how many points do you find normally gets you into the top 3? I often find I’ve got a good position but there’s still a few hours after I’ve stopped playing where people tend to knock me down to 5 or so
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Post by S1E1 on Feb 15, 2023 16:21:42 GMT -5
Makes sense, how many points do you find normally gets you into the top 3? I often find I’ve got a good position but there’s still a few hours after I’ve stopped playing where people tend to knock me down to 5 or so That's a tough one. Excluding FFA as it's so new, competitiveness within daily heats varies when you start. Right after a previous tournament ends is a particularly terrible time as that when all the heaviest grinders start. I am lucky in that I am in the West Coast and I can play in the morning which I find is a good time in general (later morning in particular) and then tournament ends early enough at night that I can check in and make sure no one passes me. Having to stop 5 hours before is going to be tougher. My main comment would be that 3rd place is almost guaranteed to be passed by. Really if you want to stay in the top 3, then it's at least 2nd or nothing. You'll definitely have someone below you go for it in the last 5 hours and they'll probably aim for 2nd even. Generally too, I think the amount of points between you and the guy in 3rd place matters more than the total amount of points you have. But number-wise, I'd say 2500 points should mostly guarantee that you'll stay in the top 3 except in Grandmaster, and can even net you 1st place once in a while. I think?? Between going for 1st these days and having a hangar that earns a lot per match, I have a skewed perspective and am paying less attention to the lower brackets. Hopefully others here on the forum can give you some insights on how many points you should aim for. One tip though, especially when you're trying to get/hold 1st, is check the tournament histories of your nearest competitors. That can give you a lot of insight on how many points they'll aim to grind for that heat and how to discourage them from trying. |
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