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Post by Adazahi on Feb 12, 2023 2:45:58 GMT -5
The skill doesn't do anything (noticable) after the nerf. I tested it out: 
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 12, 2023 7:20:19 GMT -5
13 pixels! Oh boy! Thanks for the head up Adazahi
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Feb 12, 2023 7:49:41 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I'm glad they are making it not go through absorber shields, defeats the whole purpose of them. The fact that the damage can go round corners too is wild.
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Post by metallicdue on Feb 12, 2023 14:51:00 GMT -5
pixonic can never nerf anything right
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Post by 079 on Feb 12, 2023 15:05:15 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I'm glad they are making it not go through absorber shields, defeats the whole purpose of them. The fact that the damage can go round corners too is wild. Oh yeah, a single weapon bypassing shields without Shieldbreaker (though it needs to be highly leveled, have the skill leveled, and be on a bot with lots of heavy hard points) defeats the purpose of shields as a whole and breaks the meta. I could maybe see a small damage nerf so Avalanche is not too general-purpose, but this is just the usual Pixonic logic!
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Feb 13, 2023 6:49:07 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I'm glad they are making it not go through absorber shields, defeats the whole purpose of them. The fact that the damage can go round corners too is wild. Oh yeah, a single weapon bypassing shields without Shieldbreaker (though it needs to be highly leveled, have the skill leveled, and be on a bot with lots of heavy hard points) defeats the purpose of shields as a whole and breaks the meta. I could maybe see a small damage nerf so Avalanche is not too general-purpose, but this is just the usual Pixonic logic! I'm saying the damage is fine, just the fact that they go through shields is the crazy part. That's the only thing that bothers me about them.
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Post by davortrogon on Feb 13, 2023 10:09:35 GMT -5
I think that the explosive expert skill should be more dependent per weapon to make it so that no rocket directly goes through the shield, but the ones with the largest radius like Avalanche should be able to hit them if they are running at the rockets.
For Avalanche, I think it should get a moderate (5-20%) nerf.
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Post by Poopface on Mar 24, 2023 13:16:51 GMT -5
Double checking: still broken?
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Post by Adazahi on Mar 24, 2023 13:29:11 GMT -5
Double checking: still broken? I asked ksiro about it. EE isn’t broken, this is the intended result of the nerf, and they don’t plan on changing it. Personally I haven’t removed the skill, because my rocket weapons already struggle enough to hit fast targets, I couldn’t imagine how bad it would be without the meager buff. Probably just slightly worse… but whatever, already got it to T4
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Post by Poopface on Mar 24, 2023 14:30:46 GMT -5
Double checking: still broken? I asked ksiro about it. EE isn’t broken, this is the intended result of the nerf, and they don’t plan on changing it. Personally I haven’t removed the skill, because my rocket weapons already struggle enough to hit fast targets, I couldn’t imagine how bad it would be without the meager buff. Probably just slightly worse… but whatever, already got it to T4 So not broken just 
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Post by slugpug on Mar 24, 2023 15:37:31 GMT -5
All those poor folks that spent money on Avalanche Behemoths had their fun for two weeks lol
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Mar 24, 2023 16:26:34 GMT -5
All those poor folks that spent money on Avalanche Behemoths had their fun for two weeks lol You're right and I don't know how they can keep getting away with this BS sales tactic. I recall the behemoth popping up on sales "deals" on more than 8 different occassions back when players were wreaking havoc with the puncher and then avalanche builds. That's the sure fire que that a nerf is incoming. I think I got my first "deal" pop up the other day for an Angler, so one can only hope the nerf hammer is on its way from Asgard.
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Post by Adazahi on Mar 24, 2023 19:15:29 GMT -5
All those poor folks that spent money on Avalanche Behemoths had their fun for two weeks lol You're right and I don't know how they can keep getting away with this BS sales tactic. I recall the behemoth popping up on sales "deals" on more than 8 different occassions back when players were wreaking havoc with the puncher and then avalanche builds. That's the sure fire que that a nerf is incoming. I think I got my first "deal" pop up the other day for an Angler, so one can only hope the nerf hammer is on its way from Asgard. They didn't even call it a nerf to Explosives Expert, they said it was bugged and "2.5" was supposed to mean +2.5m, not x2.5 splash radius! D'oh! Accidentally let that little code mistake bug through and fester for literally 5 months, and then just so conveniently decuded to put up 8 mk2 avalanche behemoth offers (Avalanche was never used before Explosives Expert, and now continues to not be used due to the nerf) before "patching" the "bug" I dont believe it, seriously. I wish they just told us the truth, not like it'd change anything.
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Post by Poopface on Mar 24, 2023 19:50:42 GMT -5
You're right and I don't know how they can keep getting away with this BS sales tactic. I recall the behemoth popping up on sales "deals" on more than 8 different occassions back when players were wreaking havoc with the puncher and then avalanche builds. That's the sure fire que that a nerf is incoming. I think I got my first "deal" pop up the other day for an Angler, so one can only hope the nerf hammer is on its way from Asgard. They didn't even call it a nerf to Explosives Expert, they said it was bugged and "2.5" was supposed to mean +2.5m, not x2.5 splash radius! D'oh! Accidentally let that little code mistake bug through and fester for literally 5 months, and then just so conveniently decuded to put up 8 mk2 avalanche behemoth offers (Avalanche was never used before Explosives Expert, and now continues to not be used due to the nerf) before "patching" the "bug" I dont believe it, seriously. I wish they just told us the truth, not like it'd change anything. I don’t care about the Avalanche issues. It made my Flaming Trashcan Erebus suck! Now it can’t hit anything smaller than a Titan.
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