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Post by OU812? on Aug 22, 2022 17:18:10 GMT -5
As a fan of the light mechs (speed kills; and I like the challenge of survival) I found Scape’s video interesting today. Not sure I wanna invest into something new though. Still investing into current stuff.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 23, 2022 8:59:10 GMT -5
That is seriously OP. The only balance I see is the delayed firing mechanism.
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Post by lrob on Aug 23, 2022 18:19:20 GMT -5
Yes BUT... it's only seriously OP when fully maxed (pink stars). Seems like Plarium is not happy with people leaving weapons at rank 6. If they start doing this with more weapons, it's going to be a new huge layer of monetization.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 24, 2022 7:00:41 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a good plan on their part. I've been seriously disappointed with my DL16 for a while and now I realize I need to max them in order to get the same performance that other people who're kicking my butt with theirs have.
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 24, 2022 10:51:05 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a good plan on their part. I've been seriously disappointed with my DL16 for a while and now I realize I need to max them in order to get the same performance that other people who're kicking my butt with theirs have. Really? I just doubled my DL16 and I was kinda floored at its power. Admittedly I have mostly been using it against AI so far. A lot of the human players are aiming behind their opponents for the double damage - maybe that is the difference? Also pilot/implants rank definitely matters. Just got an Asami to be my 2nd DL pilot (until Stefania is available for A-Coins) and paired her Rank 1 derriere with my DL12s. It was nuts how much my damage fell.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 24, 2022 11:28:04 GMT -5
Yah, for me, the DL weapon is broken.
The lock feature makes the discs hit cover instead of arcing around to hit the target. You have to break lock and then manually aim beside the target. But, if you don't have the DL splash radius high enough, you end up wasting ammo. Or, I'll hit a target solidly for my entire clip and then leave them with a sliver of HP when I run dry. Or, I'll fire at a retreating mech and score hits that I never could have if I was aiming intentionally. Or, I'll fire blindly at a mass of mechs and get like 3 kills. It's so inconsistent that it's broken.
That's why I'm trying to rush my GB16 cloning as fast as possible. I want to go back to beams on my Panther.
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Post by salvia on Aug 24, 2022 17:49:12 GMT -5
Just got an Asami to be my 2nd DL pilot (until Stefania is available for A-Coins) and paired her Rank 1 derriere with my DL12s. It was nuts how much my damage fell. Did you also pair Asami with a DL shrapnel implant (forgot the exact name in the game) ? Because even though her specialty is beam weapons, as a legendary pilot she should provide about as much damage boost as the epic guided weapons pilot.
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Post by salvia on Aug 24, 2022 17:51:44 GMT -5
That's why I'm trying to rush my GB16 cloning as fast as possible. I want to go back to beams on my Panther. So where else will you put your 2*DL16 setup ? On a maxed out Guardian ?
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 24, 2022 21:15:01 GMT -5
Yah, for me, the DL weapon is broken. The lock feature makes the discs hit cover instead of arcing around to hit the target. You have to break lock and then manually aim beside the target. But, if you don't have the DL splash radius high enough, you end up wasting ammo. Or, I'll hit a target solidly for my entire clip and then leave them with a sliver of HP when I run dry. Or, I'll fire at a retreating mech and score hits that I never could have if I was aiming intentionally. Or, I'll fire blindly at a mass of mechs and get like 3 kills. It's so inconsistent that it's broken. That's why I'm trying to rush my GB16 cloning as fast as possible. I want to go back to beams on my Panther. Yeah, it's a dumb weapon. I am trying to avoid target lock as much as possible. Getting better at it but it is a chore. One player I keep running into is ridiculously good at it - his DL12s hit like 16s every time. I am kind of interested to get my VRPG in the mix instead. I know it's not the greatest but I think I'll prefer the straight up RPG-style aiming. Going to be a while before I have the bos though.
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 24, 2022 21:16:49 GMT -5
Just got an Asami to be my 2nd DL pilot (until Stefania is available for A-Coins) and paired her Rank 1 derriere with my DL12s. It was nuts how much my damage fell. Did you also pair Asami with a DL shrapnel implant (forgot the exact name in the game) ? Because even though her specialty is beam weapons, as a legendary pilot she should provide about as much damage boost as the epic guided weapons pilot. Yeah I have epic (purple) implants for damage and radius. Hoping to get the gold reload implant at some point - that would be awesome, but no luck so far.
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Post by salvia on Aug 25, 2022 4:20:52 GMT -5
Yeah I have epic (purple) implants for damage and radius. Hoping to get the gold reload implant at some point - that would be awesome, but no luck so far. Then even though you're using these essential implants, perhaps your other pilot is something like Stefania rank 6, in which case Asami rank 1 is indeed no match.
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Post by lrob on Aug 25, 2022 7:50:00 GMT -5
I agree that using a legendary pilot makes a huge difference for any weapon. But even without that, DL are incredibly dependent on the level of the implants, and rank 1 pilot means not leveled implants. Without the splash damage is really hard to win a DL vs DL confrontation.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 25, 2022 8:53:01 GMT -5
That's why I'm trying to rush my GB16 cloning as fast as possible. I want to go back to beams on my Panther. So where else will you put your 2*DL16 setup ? On a maxed out Guardian ? My Guardian has dual RG16, so that's not changing any time soon. I was originally thinking of maxing my Paragon, but that would be a waste. I'll keep using my DL16 on my Panther for a while until I can clone my GB16. Then, my next goal is to save the 8k A-coins for Redox. I have enough BPs to max the 8k Redox since it's already at R5 (I think). Who knows, hopefully by then I'll have Stephania or another 32EN mech will be released.
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