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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 19, 2022 11:27:51 GMT -5
Last night I ran up against a Seraph that was annoyingly sorta unkillable. It would take damage but got like 3 flights in WHILE brawling and a Hawk would only last 2 at best. Giving it some thought I figured the person might be using Trixie. How does Trixie's timing synergize with Seraph's ability pretty well? Is Trixie the best Seraph pilot? Your replies very appreciated. ismsean |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 19, 2022 11:53:57 GMT -5
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 19, 2022 12:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Aug 19, 2022 12:20:53 GMT -5
I have both pilots leveled up with mildly different skills, but haven’t been playing enough to tell you the results yet all skills we the same except I have spy on Victoria to put the speed over the top and modules exp on Trixie to give max healing (I am considering removing mechanic from Trixie because of this and replacing with spy, but undecided). If pics don’t post, I’ll list them later as an edit. (Been having trouble adding pics lately if anyone has advice on how to fix) Trixie takes a shift in perspective because the active repair recharges so fast it feel unnatural how quickly it is available. Just need to remember the timing difference. Victoria is noticeably faster and the flight is noticeably longer. So you can cover more ground and plan your landings better. Different tactical advantages and I’d say it is similar to Nina vs. Ponchy. There is a better pilot, but it is a closer race than most pilots. And depending on your playstyle one may rise above the other.   |
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Post by meetjoeblack on Aug 19, 2022 12:51:52 GMT -5
Last night I ran up against a Seraph that was annoyingly sorta unkillable. It would take damage but got like 3 flights in WHILE brawling and a Hawk would only last 2 at best. Giving it some thought I figured the person might be using Trixie. How does Trixie's timing synergize with Seraph's ability pretty well? Is Trixie the best Seraph pilot? Your replies very appreciated. ismseanIf Seraph was so annoying than I am sure the Pilot was Trixie Hope  I haven’t tried Victoria pilot yet but I have tried many versions of Seraph and Seraph with two Devastators and Trixie Hope as a pilot was best combo for me. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 20, 2022 9:21:58 GMT -5
Last night I ran up against a Seraph that was annoyingly sorta unkillable. It would take damage but got like 3 flights in WHILE brawling and a Hawk would only last 2 at best. Giving it some thought I figured the person might be using Trixie. How does Trixie's timing synergize with Seraph's ability pretty well? Is Trixie the best Seraph pilot? Your replies very appreciated. ismsean Only one I've used, but I wouldn't change her for the world, she's 「fluffernutter」ing NUTS when you get the hang of her play style:
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Aug 22, 2022 6:06:34 GMT -5
I think Trixie is the best, I would prefer more healing than faster flight. I can outlast a couple other Seraphs who are running Jill Summers (who by the way is awful) and I honestly can't remember off the top of my head what her ability even is. I have Victoria maxed, but am still working on pilot skills before I try her out.
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Post by dangit on Aug 22, 2022 7:45:57 GMT -5
I run Seraph with Trixie also. Still working on the Pilot.
My choice for weapons was Decay. I went a little crazy for me and took them to MKIII. I usually stop around 2.6 or 2.7.
Leaves me with some range when I land and fairly quick reload.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 22, 2022 9:54:47 GMT -5
I run Seraph with Trixie also. Still working on the Pilot.
My choice for weapons was Decay. I went a little crazy for me and took them to MKIII. I usually stop around 2.6 or 2.7.
Leaves me with some range when I land and fairly quick reload.
Nice post. I can't argue with your rationale for Mk 3'ing your Decays. They'll probably get nerfed but they are a solid choice for the Seraph. As for Trixie, I'm glad I sat back and waited for the Seraph pilots to be released. I suspect Trixie is the best of the bunch. Hit flight, AH, fly, land, wait a few seconds and AH is ready again. Of course you need the Dodger skill to maximize the rinse/repeat factor. |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Aug 22, 2022 16:39:18 GMT -5
I think Trixie is the best, I would prefer more healing than faster flight. I can outlast a couple other Seraphs who are running Jill Summers (who by the way is awful) and I honestly can't remember off the top of my head what her ability even is. Jill gives healing upon flight end so doesn't that also trigger the defense on healing drone chips? If so, that's pretty good and doesn't cost power cells to use. If not, it's a pretty lousy skill compared to other pilots but that's not surprising with the first release pilot for a bot. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 22, 2022 16:44:22 GMT -5
I think Trixie is the best, I would prefer more healing than faster flight. I can outlast a couple other Seraphs who are running Jill Summers (who by the way is awful) and I honestly can't remember off the top of my head what her ability even is. Jill gives healing upon flight end so doesn't that also trigger the defense on healing drone chips? If so, that's pretty good and doesn't cost power cells to use. If not, it's a pretty lousy skill compared to other pilots but that's not surprising with the first release pilot for a bot. No, those repair drone chips are triggered by the active mod Repair Unit/Advanced Repair Unit or things like receiving a certain amount of damage, not by things like Mechanic or being healed by allies or motherships and such |
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Aug 22, 2022 19:33:34 GMT -5
I’m still not sure where I land in the Trixie vs. Victoria, but… Never discount the impact of speed in flight in this game - what do we all gripe about killing the Fafnir…. 25% faster is really fast, and Seraph has abundant additional pilot speed skills to make it even more so. (The flip side is you can use some of these to speed up Trixie too, but as per my post above, there is a trade off) 25% longer flight/ability means 25% more relative invincibility (not sure the exact amount, but a few seconds worth). Not sure how this stacks up against the healing and drone chip boosts from Trixie, but you can still get those boosts with Victoria, just not as often. Is the few seconds of invincibility equal to what Trixie offers? I do not know, but I’m guessing Daniela1 may have an analysis coming up soon) I’m guessing I’ll end up with Trixie, but it is close. Plus, I think a Trixie nerf may happen at some point when they realize no one levels any other pilot. Although the power cell consumption may offset this for Pix. They opened Pandora’s box on themselves with Trixie🤭 |
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Post by ch4xprt on Aug 23, 2022 17:23:35 GMT -5
Maybe this has been mentioned, but....maxed with Vicky B, twin Decays and a Beak helper with 2 On Damage-Damage chips while tethered to 2 or 3 Reds...sheez! Melt like Wicked Witch o' the West. Just sayn'
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Post by ismsean on Aug 25, 2022 14:35:48 GMT -5
Trixie is the best hands down IMO with a weapon that charges Northlight quickly. That shorter heal and quick charge of Northlight by Punchers is the way to go. Everything is timing. Heal, battle, Northlight then flight, land and heal. Wash rinse repeat. Even more deadly if you are tethered. Hoping a new Legendary Pilot came out that bypasses shields while in flight. My setups:
#1 - Hawk with frost immune and on heal damage. Trixie with Punchers.
#2 - Drone that hides when blinded with control resistor, heal defense and % repair on damage. Adrian Legendary Pilot (trying to get another Trixie) with Punchers. This one gets dropped when reds drop 1st wave of Titans.
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Post by meetjoeblack on Aug 27, 2022 7:13:44 GMT -5
Last night I ran up against a Seraph that was annoyingly sorta unkillable. It would take damage but got like 3 flights in WHILE brawling and a Hawk would only last 2 at best. Giving it some thought I figured the person might be using Trixie. How does Trixie's timing synergize with Seraph's ability pretty well? Is Trixie the best Seraph pilot? Your replies very appreciated. ismseanSo guys what to tell, You and this topic motivated me to do double check on Serpah. Here You go if You are interested: |
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Post by meetjoeblack on Aug 29, 2022 9:13:27 GMT -5
After Trixie here is video with legendary (Seraph) pilot Victoria:
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Post by NexusBlade on Aug 31, 2022 11:46:57 GMT -5
Victoria easily, at least for me.
Yeah yeah constant healing is good but if I want raw survivability I wouldn't waste it on a speedster like Seraph, with Victoria the ability lasts 14 seconds and you fly insanely fast especially with t4 spy, I used to say Orochi with Jump unit was insanely fast.... This thing literally crosses the entire map in seconds and can do insane damage along the way... I would never give that up for some extra repair lol.
imo ymmv
And for those who like a demonstration, heres my latest video where I was trying out the Seraph, these were some of my first few games and I was already impressed by it's mobility.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 31, 2022 21:39:51 GMT -5
Dayum, I won seraph and the speed chick in my smurf account, that 「dookie」 is nuts fast
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Sept 1, 2022 2:47:42 GMT -5
I couldn't decide, so I run one of each. Trixie lives longer but Vicky is more fun to pilot by a long shot.
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Post by NexusBlade on Sept 1, 2022 20:11:25 GMT -5
Dayum, I won seraph and the speed chick in my smurf account, that 「dookie」 is nuts fast It really is, and it's a lot of fun too Congratulations on the pull, I hope you enjoy  |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Sept 2, 2022 10:05:24 GMT -5
I couldn't decide, so I run one of each. Trixie lives longer but Vicky is more fun to pilot by a long shot. That gets my vote. I have Vicky but no Sareph |
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Post by ismsean on Sept 3, 2022 9:41:56 GMT -5
Trixie is the best hands down IMO with a weapon that charges Northlight quickly. That shorter heal and quick charge of Northlight by Punchers is the way to go. Everything is timing. Heal, battle, Northlight then flight, land and heal. Wash rinse repeat. Even more deadly if you are tethered. Hoping a new Legendary Pilot came out that bypasses shields while in flight. My setups: #1 - Hawk with frost immune and on heal damage. Trixie with Punchers. #2 - Drone that hides when blinded with control resistor, heal defense and % repair on damage. Adrian Legendary Pilot (trying to get another Trixie) with Punchers. This one gets dropped when reds drop 1st wave of Titans. I was wrong imo. That Vic Legendary Pilot works just fine. That extra flight and speed makes it Faf like. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 20:09:37 GMT -5
I've got both Victoria n Trixie levelled, definitely like Victoria better. Slowly leveling a 2nd devastator to run with Trixie as a brawler. I almost don't want a khepri to latch onto me with Vic since makes it uncontrollable in air, seems to almost double the speed
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Sept 3, 2022 21:05:45 GMT -5
Victoria easily, at least for me. Yeah yeah constant healing is good but if I want raw survivability I wouldn't waste it on a speedster like Seraph, with Victoria the ability lasts 14 seconds and you fly insanely fast especially with t4 spy, I used to say Orochi with Jump unit was insanely fast.... This thing literally crosses the entire map in seconds and can do insane damage along the way... I would never give that up for some extra repair lol. imo ymmv And for those who like a demonstration, heres my latest video where I was trying out the Seraph, these were some of my first few games and I was already impressed by it's mobility. Depending on your drone chips, that constant healing from Trixie also translates into constant 70% damage boost. That is huge. In addition, that constant 70% boost plus the longer survivability means you’re more likely to charge both a repair amp and nuc amp, which translates to 95% full time damage boost with a near constant 70% on top (again, depending on your drone chips). Put all that on top of the 250% boost against titans and you are brutally dangerous in the late game I actually like both pilots for different reasons and will stand by that they are equivalent in how good they are, but it is up to how you plan to use the bot. In this game speed kills, so you cannot underestimate how good Victoria is - can blast halfway across the map to safety, the extra flight time is essentially extra invincibility which trumps healing constantly… Both are great pilots. Jill, on the other hand…sorry if you leveled that one. The pilot skill doesn’t match the mechanics of the bot. Since the bot takes nearly zero damage during flight because of its unique shield, 15% healing after flight will usually net next to no benefit. If it was upon activating the ability, that would be a better match to the mechanics. Not sure if that was a Pix oversight or a pix plan… |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 1:08:00 GMT -5
Of course it was a pix plan, why would they release Trix and Vic afterwards? Trix is good for close up brawling I think, thus y I'm building a 2nd boombox.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Sept 5, 2022 6:07:56 GMT -5
I was going to try Victoria on my Unknown Seraph when if I get one. With it being bugged right now doesn't really need the healing. I'm sick of running into them, everyone has one now.
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Sept 5, 2022 14:56:25 GMT -5
Of course it was a pix plan, why would they release Trix and Vic afterwards? Trix is good for close up brawling I think, thus y I'm building a 2nd boombox. I believe releasing a crappy pilot was part of the plan, but I do think the miss on the pilot vs. bot mechanics was likely an oversight by Pix. |
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Post by ｆｒｅｅｒιｄｅ on Sept 5, 2022 17:15:27 GMT -5
Tried trixie and not seeing any value add. I collect grey damage way faster than I can use the extra healing ability.
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