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Post by shawngonakillyou on Aug 16, 2022 11:34:16 GMT -5
Son of a nutcracker…I was waiting to level a Seraph until they released an SE version. All the update notes I saw looked like it wasn’t planned even out to 8.5, so I went and level my regular old Seraph at the last 40% sale. Was I just not looking hard enough - did anyone else here know the SE seraph was planned? I’m asking for future planning of upgrades. Knowing they may not announce an SE would give me more patience. I think it was less than a week or so before I upgraded to this news.
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Post by munkeeee on Aug 16, 2022 11:38:48 GMT -5
its common practice now good sir. SE bots usually come out a month after they get here with the OG. Weapons as well.
I just take mental notes of stuff now when its released. Whats cool, what isnt, how effective are they and how could I benefit with them on my team. Not to mention they start out with a bang, and are in the expensive chests. But after 45 days, they are available. I like it that way because it gets the bugs worked out and people learn to operate them.
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Aug 16, 2022 11:51:21 GMT -5
its common practice now good sir. SE bots usually come out a month after they get here with the OG. Weapons as well. I just take mental notes of stuff now when its released. Whats cool, what isnt, how effective are they and how could I benefit with them on my team. Not to mention they start out with a bang, and are in the expensive chests. But after 45 days, they are available. I like it that way because it gets the bugs worked out and people learn to operate them. That’s how I’ve been doing it too. Oddly though, they never gave Siren an SE bot. And because no news on all the update clips, I figured they weren’t doing one for Seraph either, so I jumped the gun. Patience is clearly not one of my strengths🤣 I don’t even think Siren got a skin…?
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Aug 16, 2022 13:12:24 GMT -5
its common practice now good sir. SE bots usually come out a month after they get here with the OG. Weapons as well. I just take mental notes of stuff now when its released. Whats cool, what isnt, how effective are they and how could I benefit with them on my team. Not to mention they start out with a bang, and are in the expensive chests. But after 45 days, they are available. I like it that way because it gets the bugs worked out and people learn to operate them. That’s how I’ve been doing it too. Oddly though, they never gave Siren an SE bot. And because no news on all the update clips, I figured they weren’t doing one for Seraph either, so I jumped the gun. Patience is clearly not one of my strengths🤣 I don’t even think Siren got a skin…? is it worth it?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 16, 2022 13:18:54 GMT -5
Yes?
I mean, inspecting the splash screen was TECHNICALLY a thing to do, the model was clearly seraph but different, I "figured" it was, but didn't care enough to care; I already MK3'd my original, but I also
wouldn't blame anyone for missing it.I mean, they ALWAYS do special editions these days, and they DID up the time frame from before. It did used to take a bit for them to come out.
But I mean, who the 「fluffernutter」 pays THAT much attention to splash screens?
I know I sure don't.....
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 16, 2022 13:21:09 GMT -5
I just take mental notes of stuff now when its released. Whats cool, what isnt, how effective are they and how could I benefit with them on my team. Not to mention they start out with a bang, and are in the expensive chests. WHETHER OR NOT IT TAKES THE FORM OF A SPIDER........
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Aug 16, 2022 13:46:01 GMT -5
Yes? I mean, inspecting the splash screen was TECHNICALLY a thing to do, the model was clearly seraph but different, I "figured" it was, but didn't care enough to care; I already MK3'd my original, but I also wouldn't blame anyone for missing it.I mean, they ALWAYS do special editions these days, and they DID up the time frame from before. It did used to take a bit for them to come out. But I mean, who the 「fluffernutter」 pays THAT much attention to splash screens? I know I sure don't..... . How do you run yours effectively?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 16, 2022 13:50:25 GMT -5
did anyone else here know the SE seraph was planned? Oh I knew alright, but you don't "subscribe" to my newsletter so I didn't tell you. Nah, j/k, I knew about the 8.5 thing because you posted that, iirc. Seraph is cool, but i don't feel I'm on a massive disadvantage by not having one. Time will tell.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 16, 2022 14:01:03 GMT -5
Yes? I mean, inspecting the splash screen was TECHNICALLY a thing to do, the model was clearly seraph but different, I "figured" it was, but didn't care enough to care; I already MK3'd my original, but I also wouldn't blame anyone for missing it.I mean, they ALWAYS do special editions these days, and they DID up the time frame from before. It did used to take a bit for them to come out. But I mean, who the 「fluffernutter」 pays THAT much attention to splash screens? I know I sure don't..... . How do you run yours effectively? Still learning, to be honest. It's been a while since I've run a flying bot, and as with all flying bots, priority number 1 is plan where you land. I am still sucking at this.
Aside from that (which again, is HUGE), it's a lot like any other bot: know and play to the strengths of your range (punchers=500m etc etc), remember what your drone does and use it appropriately.
All this together is a lot to process sometimes, hence the learning curve to not suck Sometimes I look like a genius, the rest of the time I look like a moron. Just watch one of my videos, you'll see
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Post by munkeeee on Aug 16, 2022 14:42:38 GMT -5
I just take mental notes of stuff now when its released. Whats cool, what isnt, how effective are they and how could I benefit with them on my team. Not to mention they start out with a bang, and are in the expensive chests. WHETHER OR NOT IT TAKES THE FORM OF A SPIDER........yea, I think we all can agree the Skyros is NOT a spider, WE spider folk dont claim them!!
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Aug 16, 2022 15:20:16 GMT -5
yea, I think we all can agree the Skyros is NOT a spider, WE spider folk dont claim them!!Skyros is more so a rollie pollie Ollie kinda bot
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Aug 16, 2022 15:34:04 GMT -5
I knew ever since the Ao Jun and the Fafnir got nerfed. Thats how predictable pixonic is.
Nerf the speed to oblivion for "balance" reasons, then release another flying bot a couple months later and then up the anti with a faster version of that for umm "un balanced" reasons.
Release LE version so all the must haves open their wallet again and run multiples of these in their hangars. Although I'm not sure they are ready to ditch the khepris just yet.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 16, 2022 15:53:57 GMT -5
yea, I think we all can agree the Skyros is NOT a spider, WE spider folk dont claim them!!Skyros is more so a rollie pollie Ollie kinda bot Wait, what?
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Post by munkeeee on Aug 16, 2022 16:11:53 GMT -5
I knew ever since the Ao Jun and the Fafnir got nerfed. Thats how predictable pixonic is. Nerf the speed to oblivion for "balance" reasons, then release another flying bot a couple months later and then up the anti with a faster version of that for umm "un balanced" reasons. Release LE version so all the must haves open their wallet again and run multiples of these in their hangars. Although I'm not sure they are ready to ditch the khepris just yet. its called "double dippin". Thy release a new bot, EVERYONE buys it. 2 months later the LE/SE bot releases, with 10% health increase. MO MONEY MO MONEY. Only time I havent seen it was Harpy/Siren. They didnt get one, but they were twins so it was a two-fer.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Aug 16, 2022 16:35:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was leaked at least twice lol
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Aug 16, 2022 16:40:15 GMT -5
I knew ever since the Ao Jun and the Fafnir got nerfed. Thats how predictable pixonic is. Nerf the speed to oblivion for "balance" reasons, then release another flying bot a couple months later and then up the anti with a faster version of that for umm "un balanced" reasons. Release LE version so all the must haves open their wallet again and run multiples of these in their hangars. Although I'm not sure they are ready to ditch the khepris just yet. its called "double dippin". Thy release a new bot, EVERYONE buys it. 2 months later the LE/SE bot releases, with 10% health increase. MO MONEY MO MONEY. Only time I havent seen it was Harpy/Siren. They didnt get one, but they were twins so it was a two-fer. They be triple, even quadruple dippin. Oh and they had the Katsune (if that's what it was) Harpy. I won one but have never levelled it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 21:19:05 GMT -5
Saraph is a reasonably balanced bot. Not op firepower and decent durability. Therfore is NOT meta. Its an ok bot imo.
Sadly as somone here said. if it aint op the whales and champs dont buy it and pixo dont like that. The system will remain so long as the payers dictate.. we apparently want and like the op nerf cycle. Thats life. majority dictates
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Aug 16, 2022 21:36:59 GMT -5
I knew ever since the Ao Jun and the Fafnir got nerfed. Thats how predictable pixonic is. Nerf the speed to oblivion for "balance" reasons, then release another flying bot a couple months later and then up the anti with a faster version of that for umm "un balanced" reasons. Release LE version so all the must haves open their wallet again and run multiples of these in their hangars. Although I'm not sure they are ready to ditch the khepris just yet. its called "double dippin". Thy release a new bot, EVERYONE buys it. 2 months later the LE/SE bot releases, with 10% health increase. MO MONEY MO MONEY. Only time I havent seen it was Harpy/Siren. They didnt get one, but they were twins so it was a two-fer.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Aug 17, 2022 6:14:49 GMT -5
Saraph is a reasonably balanced bot. Not op firepower and decent durability. Therfore is NOT meta. Its an ok bot imo. Sadly as somone here said. if it aint op the whales and champs dont buy it and pixo dont like that. The system will remain so long as the payers dictate.. we apparently want and like the op nerf cycle. Thats life. majority dictates Oh it most definitely IS meta. Once you add maxed drones, pilot skills, and weapons, (mainly Puncher) it becomes unkillable. The Apparition is really strong, and when they get boosted by Khepris things can go south in a match really fast. We are starting to see more of them now, and each one is harder to take out.
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Post by Endobot on Aug 17, 2022 7:59:27 GMT -5
Now that we are getting to see more and more maxed Seraphs it`s becoming apparent how OP they are and I think that we can see now, and it`s pretty obvious, why they effectively deleted Fafnir from the game.
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Aug 17, 2022 11:41:40 GMT -5
Skyros is more so a rollie pollie Ollie kinda bot Wait, what? . Shame nobody got that reference lol I just imagine the theme song to that show playing whenever I play skyros
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 2:37:58 GMT -5
I have a seraph but not touching the upgrades for it because how easily I kill them with siren or harpy. If I couldn't then yea I'd spend the cash to level up to MK3. All I know is the strongest ones run Trixie pilot at maxed, so if you don't max it or Trixie, then don't bother running it at all because you'll run into me counting how many seraphs I kill each match.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Aug 18, 2022 2:54:24 GMT -5
its called "double dippin". Thy release a new bot, EVERYONE buys it. 2 months later the LE/SE bot releases, with 10% health increase. MO MONEY MO MONEY. Only time I havent seen it was Harpy/Siren. They didnt get one, but they were twins so it was a two-fer. I don't understand why Pix hasn't realized how much money they can make by releasing +5% Skins and +10% Special Editions for *all* Bots that don't curreny have them. The Nostalgia is strong in this game. Plus some of us still use Bots like Bulwark, Strider, and Hover...
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Post by thediss on Aug 18, 2022 3:34:29 GMT -5
SE are not that great are they. In current state, is 10 percent durability worth chasing. Of course 10 is better than nothing, but I dont think it warrants the silver and time to max it if you already have a normal version, or even a normal with 5 percent skin.
Not that this is a call for Pix to make SE even more special - although its probably on their magical board of ideas.
But agree with above - they have missed the boat on skins, cosmetics, maybe lights, decals, or fireworks or something where players can properly personalise their bots. I think they could do something in this area and get a cash flow but from tons more people. Just thinking games like Fortnite or Apex that are free but make loadsa money, and it does not affect balance or power in anyway.
Maybe draw the line at adding in dances or emotes for our bots. Who wants a purple smiling flossing Revenant with a Christmas tree hat anyway.
Speaking of loadsa money - who remembers : shut your mouth and look at my wad? Classic.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Aug 18, 2022 6:43:25 GMT -5
SE are not that great are they. In current state, is 10 percent durability worth chasing. Of course 10 is better than nothing, but I dont think it warrants the silver and time to max it if you already have a normal version, or even a normal with 5 percent skin. Not that this is a call for Pix to make SE even more special - although its probably on their magical board of ideas. But agree with above - they have missed the boat on skins, cosmetics, maybe lights, decals, or fireworks or something where players can properly personalise their bots. I think they could do something in this area and get a cash flow but from tons more people. Just thinking games like Fortnite or Apex that are free but make loadsa money, and it does not affect balance or power in anyway. Maybe draw the line at adding in dances or emotes for our bots. Who wants a purple smiling flossing Revenant with a Christmas tree hat anyway. Speaking of loadsa money - who remembers : shut your mouth and look at my wad? Classic. 10% is an obscenely large chunk of health the higher level it is
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Post by thediss on Aug 18, 2022 9:37:24 GMT -5
I dont think 10 percent is obscene. Say it was an extra 50k, that doesnt help that much in current games. Actually, I guess it helps a bit in those rare games that are well balanced by the matchmaker, unfortunately too rare.
Otherwise, when matched with the stompers, 10 percent is nothing. And when giving the stomping, it doesnt matter. Guess its all relative like everything. Saying that, if I get the SE first, then of course I will level that one - my faves being the Tyr and Blitz.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 18, 2022 9:49:47 GMT -5
I'm surprised there's no SE Siren yet. An odd omission on the part of Pix, but, y'all taught me to always wait for the SE to come out and I often do that. I lost patience with the Khepri and lived to regret it.
I suspect Pix will be directly selling SE Seraphs and Indras soon enough. Patience...
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Aug 18, 2022 21:42:20 GMT -5
I dont think 10 percent is obscene. Say it was an extra 50k, that doesnt help that much in current games. Actually, I guess it helps a bit in those rare games that are well balanced by the matchmaker, unfortunately too rare. Otherwise, when matched with the stompers, 10 percent is nothing. And when giving the stomping, it doesnt matter. Guess its all relative like everything. Saying that, if I get the SE first, then of course I will level that one - my faves being the Tyr and Blitz. Where this 10% differentiates is when you stack stuff on top of it. Unlike the additive nature of modules or a skin, that 10% is part of the bot and every module amplifies that additional 10%. A 5% skin is like a module, so does not count when you have drone chips or modules that amplify HP. I agree it is not obscene, but it is definitely significant, and is the reason I plan to never level another bot until I get my hands on the SE (or until I get tricked by Pix again )
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Aug 19, 2022 6:15:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised there's no SE Siren yet. An odd omission on the part of Pix, but, y'all taught me to always wait for the SE to come out and I often do that. I lost patience with the Khepri and lived to regret it. I suspect Pix will be directly selling SE Seraphs and Indras soon enough. Patience... I was surprised there was no SE Siren, and even more surprise that there wasn't a single paintjob for Harpy or Siren.
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Post by The VVatcher on Aug 20, 2022 6:11:26 GMT -5
This was an easy one to guess. Just looking at it, it looks like a “hero” bot if there was one in War Robots lol.
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