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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 18, 2022 10:05:09 GMT -5
Just want your thoughts, I have one but it seems to underperform pretty consistently in today's meta.
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Post by T-Town Striker on May 18, 2022 10:19:34 GMT -5
Here’s mine that goes down too fast , I’m pretty sure it would take all the current add on goodies to keep it going in a match .  |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 12:06:11 GMT -5
Do it. I've followed around a few of them with Khepri and it ends up as a deep-penetration spawn run, which ends up successful half the time. It's super fun one hundred percent of the time, though. And Mender/Demeter can heal them after they run out, blow up, and come back.
At the very least, it's a great time.
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Post by 079 on May 18, 2022 12:22:41 GMT -5
It needs help in the form of a good drone and pilot, but it can kick butt in beacon modes by exploding on beacons. It is a cheaper bot so of course it will not beat the top meta, but I think it is still pretty potent.
Also, always use an ECU on the light hard point, as the survivability is far better for this bot than the extra weapon.
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Post by botgamer3 on May 18, 2022 17:56:09 GMT -5
IDK about champs leaques bot I do piss off alot of champs with it . I have been using mine for over a year as my main bacon getter. I run ancile/ecu and this combo allows me to concentrate on driving reds nuts, ducking into cover and rushing out to blow up the reds. Just mk3ed it as well, ancile/ecu mk2-12. 1 maxd Odu and fortifier and non leveled Odu. Of course running jump unit. Sometime in play against champs it's the only bot that gets me a kill. I am in M3 so YMMV. Also as the doctor described above I like getting behind the reds and launching sneak attacks. Lots of reds were destroyed this way and did not know how because I was right behind them going boom. So just do it!!
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Post by milty72 on May 19, 2022 14:37:50 GMT -5
I said no because I hate it. I tried for a month but its a big Meh! For me. However  |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 5, 2022 13:05:40 GMT -5
Here is what I’m finding:
- Due to bendies, Anti Control is necessary even if you use ECU
- ECU, as always, gives much greater combat longevity for obvious reasons, but it isn’t necessary if you are careful and tactical
- Hammer Cudgel is deadly, and good for building NA stacks before ambushing
- Due to the RA, Northlight, Mantis, and extremes of durability, for Hellburner to continue doing its nasty business, you have to think very carefully about your targets way more than in the past. Previously, to some extent it was pretty easy to pilot, you didn’t have to be that careful and could just rush into a cluster. Presently (7/2022), I find the Hb, like the Strider, has a very high skill ceiling to be effective. So here are a few suggestions:
— Spend more time striking from a distance, and taking a careful assessment of the combat field
— Don’t rush around aimlessly or choose large clusters of full health enemies as your target
— Take advantage of cover while utilizing the ability range to strike through objects
— Like Strider and Loki, seek solitary distracted targets to ambush, and take advantage of your high speed to grab lonely unguarded beacons
— The start of a match is not the optimal time to field Hellburner, especially because majority enemies are using high durability mechs like Khepri and the 8 Ball. Drop it second or third when enemies are distracted, and seek to end or cripple enemies already low in hp
Conclusion - If you want to enjoy Hellburner and have a significant impact, don’t run it like a berserker. Use it as a carefully calculating assassin and thief.
Beak, Barrel, Persephone, or Paralysis are what I’d presently use, especially Beak.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 5, 2022 16:00:04 GMT -5
Just got triple Living Legend with Hammer Cudgel Hellburner, sooo, just sayin’
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Post by botgamer3 on Jul 5, 2022 19:32:51 GMT -5
Since my last post I added the defpoints for beacon capture to my pilot and try to stack the points. For example on Shenzhen I cap home and immediately got to center. If I cap center I go for red home beacon or drop behind he reds home and harass and do damage. If I run into a tank I will ping pong off and go behind the reds and harass some other red. Still having fun with it too!!
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 10, 2022 20:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 11, 2022 12:04:25 GMT -5
A: It's a skill bot that needs practice. B: Either I'm not the good with it and/or the damage output can be low. I put the WHAM on a pair of khepris and the damage is Meh or Meh+. So, Hellburner is out for now. Thanks for the reminder, maybe I can bring it back in for a few matches. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 11, 2022 12:09:34 GMT -5
A: It's a skill bot that needs practice. B: Either I'm not the good with it and/or the damage output can be low. I put the WHAM on a pair of khepris and the damage is Meh or Meh+. So, Hellburner is out for now. Thanks for the reminder, maybe I can bring it back in for a few matches. Yeah, don’t use it on Khepris or Fenrir unless they are engaged with your allies and you pop in to contribute, or you can contribute from the other side of a barrier. Using flanking fire and carefully selecting targets you know will hate you is the optimal use of Hb for now. Khepris and Fenrir resistance is just too high at the moment for you to stick around blowing up in 1v1 or 1v2. But I am consistently getting living legends with this thing in champ league, so it is definitely viable |
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Post by spectre729 on Jul 11, 2022 13:35:59 GMT -5
great, now i want to have run with a hellburner
on top of other things i want in workshop...
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 12, 2022 14:46:58 GMT -5
For info, thanks Tony
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 14, 2022 13:14:52 GMT -5
Adrian does Hellburner - this one really gets your Hellburner juices flowing!
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Post by Poopface on Apr 5, 2023 10:06:40 GMT -5
I got me one, too! I tried Puncher/Shredder thinking the lockdown would be good for clustering reds. I tried AutoShotguns. Currently trying it out with flames.
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Post by spectre729 on Apr 5, 2023 10:46:52 GMT -5
mine dies a bit too fast but when im not dying or getting locked im having so much fun with the hellburner
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Post by Poopface on Apr 5, 2023 12:11:39 GMT -5
mine dies a bit too fast but when im not dying or getting locked im having so much fun with the hellburner The pilot really helps a lot. Another option is to do as ѻﻭɼﻉ recommended and use an ECU to help block the incoming damage. |
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Post by davortrogon on Apr 5, 2023 13:21:47 GMT -5
Here is what I’m finding: - Due to bendies, Anti Control is necessary even if you use ECU - ECU, as always, gives much greater combat longevity for obvious reasons, but it isn’t necessary if you are careful and tactical - Hammer Cudgel is deadly, and good for building NA stacks before ambushing - Due to the RA, Northlight, Mantis, and extremes of durability, for Hellburner to continue doing its nasty business, you have to think very carefully about your targets way more than in the past. Previously, to some extent it was pretty easy to pilot, you didn’t have to be that careful and could just rush into a cluster. Presently (7/2022), I find the Hb, like the Strider, has a very high skill ceiling to be effective. So here are a few suggestions: — Spend more time striking from a distance, and taking a careful assessment of the combat field — Don’t rush around aimlessly or choose large clusters of full health enemies as your target — Take advantage of cover while utilizing the ability range to strike through objects — Like Strider and Loki, seek solitary distracted targets to ambush, and take advantage of your high speed to grab lonely unguarded beacons — The start of a match is not the optimal time to field Hellburner, especially because majority enemies are using high durability mechs like Khepri and the 8 Ball. Drop it second or third when enemies are distracted, and seek to end or cripple enemies already low in hp Conclusion - If you want to enjoy Hellburner and have a significant impact, don’t run it like a berserker. Use it as a carefully calculating assassin and thief. Beak, Barrel, Persephone, or Paralysis are what I’d presently use, especially Beak. What a good guide! You covered just about everything; I'm having a hard time trying to find something to let me say "You can also do this". I will say that I have seen some Hellburners in free for all get 17 kills without dying once though; they were able to overwhelm any individual player and could cross the map twice as fast as anything else. I checked their stats and they had a nuclear amp and 2 Nitro units. Partnered with the insane absorbers of the time and Death Mark, their Sonic weapons obliterated everything. In summary, if you know you can take someone on, especially range opponents, close the distance and target whoever you know can't kill you. |
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