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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 17, 2022 6:38:57 GMT -5
...which would it be? Would it significantly affect gameplay and the meta, or would you pick one based on how much it pisses you off in each game? For me, it would be the latter. My most hated robot, in the whole entire game, is... Murometz. They are so easy to play, you camp behind buildings, and steal kills when you go into flight. Not much skill required, all you do is click button and fire. I hate them because of this lack of skill required, and just how annoying they are. I'll admit, I have been killed by a few, but they are more a threat to my regular bots than my titan. QS makes them way easier to kill, and I love jumping in close with my Luchador and imagining the look on their faces when they see I have QS. So, I would pick them to get removed. If they were, I would predict a lot less QS would be used, as apart from Orochis there would be no use for it. We would probably see a couple more Mings, as they would be the dominant titan in the air. There would also be more titans pushing beacons on the field, because these NEVER do. I thought this would be an interesting thing to do, to see what other robots cause most players grief. And it was a way I could go off on one about the Murometz  |
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Post by dangit on May 17, 2022 7:02:22 GMT -5
I don't want to remove any.
I want them to bring 3 back.
The Schutze, Boa and Golem.
New players are missing out on the fun.
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Post by thediss on May 17, 2022 7:06:19 GMT -5
Prob Revenant. Stupid teleport and invincible face humping.
Granted, some of the issue is the stupid drones making everything take ages to die and constantly shield and heal. Argh!!!
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Post by dinnerplain on May 17, 2022 7:47:04 GMT -5
Erebus.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 17, 2022 7:57:51 GMT -5
I don't want to remove any.
I want them to bring 3 back.
The Schutze, Boa and Golem.
New players are missing out on the fun.
That's a good point - where are they? We need them back! Maybe the fact that they have included them on the loading screen and they are in the hangar, means something is underway? |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 8:54:02 GMT -5
I don't want to remove any.
I want them to bring 3 back.
The Schutze, Boa and Golem.
New players are missing out on the fun.
That's a good point - where are they? We need them back! Maybe the fact that they have included them on the loading screen and they are in the hangar, means something is underway? What are you talking about? Schutze, Golem, and Boa are all right where I left them. And that was in my hangar. Lulz. |
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Post by xv104 on May 17, 2022 8:54:59 GMT -5
...which would it be? Would it significantly affect gameplay and the meta, or would you pick one based on how much it pisses you off in each game? For me, it would be the latter. My most hated robot, in the whole entire game, is... Murometz. They are so easy to play, you camp behind buildings, and steal kills when you go into flight. Not much skill required, all you do is click button and fire. I hate them because of this lack of skill required, and just how annoying they are. I'll admit, I have been killed by a few, but they are more a threat to my regular bots than my titan. QS makes them way easier to kill, and I love jumping in close with my Luchador and imagining the look on their faces when they see I have QS. So, I would pick them to get removed. If they were, I would predict a lot less QS would be used, as apart from Orochis there would be no use for it. We would probably see a couple more Mings, as they would be the dominant titan in the air. There would also be more titans pushing beacons on the field, because these NEVER do. I thought this would be an interesting thing to do, to see what other robots cause most players grief. And it was a way I could go off on one about the Murometz  I wouldn't want to remove any bots.... sorry to talk about Mechwarrior again, but in that game there must be like over 500 different mechs. Granted they are variants of the same chassis, but more bots means more customisability and more tinkering which is only a good thing  Removing bots just means less choice. I am confident that Boa, Shutze & Golem will return hopefully as Titans XD I share your sentiments r.e. Blinding Murometz, but I will make a longer post about this later today |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 17, 2022 9:04:14 GMT -5
Prob Revenant. Stupid teleport and invincible face humping. Granted, some of the issue is the stupid drones making everything take ages to die and constantly shield and heal. Argh!!! I agree with ^^^this guy^^^. I don't hate the Revenant buuuut jeesh it can be boring to run against one and boring to use one. |
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Post by xv104 on May 17, 2022 9:21:12 GMT -5
Prob Revenant. Stupid teleport and invincible face humping. Granted, some of the issue is the stupid drones making everything take ages to die and constantly shield and heal. Argh!!! I agree with ^^^this guy^^^. I don't hate the Revenant buuuut jeesh it can be boring to run against one and boring to use one. I had a fun duel against a Revenant recently in FFA. Granted this was in a maxed Nightingale and the Rev probably was only 1.11 or so. As soon as he teleported to me I hit fly, waited in the air about 8-10 secs til his grey damage resist wore off, dropped down and unloaded on him. Rinse and repeat! I'm sure this wouldn't work now against a MK 3, but in a few updates who knows! |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 17, 2022 9:23:43 GMT -5
xv104 - Like it. Skilled brawlin' with a Nightingale! Sweeeeet.
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Post by xv104 on May 17, 2022 9:29:23 GMT -5
xv104 - Like it. Skilled brawlin' with a Nightingale! Sweeeeet. Hahaha I know, 2 years later, still can't get over the Nightingale! |
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Post by 079 on May 17, 2022 10:03:07 GMT -5
This is an easy answer for me: Scorpion.
The effect on the meta is that many perfectly fine robots become usable again because there is no more wall camper appearing behind them with stealth and maxed Sonics to delete them faster than a Harpy does. Scorpion is so utterly one-dimensional with its design and actively punishes people for simply running certain robots, even if those robots could otherwise do well. Oh, how much better the game would be without this stupid robot…
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Post by gus169 on May 17, 2022 11:35:34 GMT -5
I guess I'd be picking the Rev too. The offensive teleport on the Scorp was annoying, but the payoff was low HP and firepower. It could zap back out too of course. But the Rev is magicking a heavy slot, shields and a string of immunities, right into your face. Just dumb.
Lucha bugs me sometimes, but it's a titan. They're kinda meant to stomp. At least they don't hide much.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 11:46:51 GMT -5
I agree with ^^^this guy^^^. I don't hate the Revenant buuuut jeesh it can be boring to run against one and boring to use one. I had a fun duel against a Revenant recently in FFA. Granted this was in a maxed Nightingale and the Rev probably was only 1.11 or so. As soon as he teleported to me I hit fly, waited in the air about 8-10 secs til his grey damage resist wore off, dropped down and unloaded on him. Rinse and repeat! I'm sure this wouldn't work now against a MK 3, but in a few updates who knows! It might. What'd you arm it with? |
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Post by munkeeee on May 17, 2022 12:08:10 GMT -5
TIME.
Every bot gets its day in the sun, some longer than others. It’s a waiting it out game. I’ve already started to see the cracks in the armor for some of the more annoyingly OP bots. Just have to find it’s Achilles heel.
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on May 17, 2022 12:29:31 GMT -5
I agree with 079, our true enemy is the scorpion, other bots may have teleport abilities but not at this scale, scorpion has decent enough firepower as well as a dumb ability it can abuse to get basically free kills, i remember so many matches where when i payed less than 100% attention to my back, a scorpion drained me and killed me, now i always get so paranoid i have to check my back every 2 seconds. My erebus so far has caught 3 of them trying to score a free kill off of me, it didn't end well for them a tip for you typhon and erebus players, as soon as a scorpion teleports to you disable them, then they can't teleport away, try to kill them in that time every scorpion killed is a teammate saved from a grisly fate |
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Post by shawngonakillyou on May 17, 2022 14:38:37 GMT -5
I am torn between Scorpion and Revenant. Revenant is too durable, Scorpion is too magical. Teleport is fine, but it should be like Demeter and Revenant - you're stuck where you ported to. Scorpion has the low HP, so it makes sense as it is designed, but it is super lame. I have tons of fun in Scorpion because it is the ultimate FU bot - Hello bendy birdy, FU, goodbye....Hello Khepri, FU, 50% health left.... But I'd probably pick Scorpion to go. Revenant a very close second.
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Post by xv104 on May 17, 2022 14:51:59 GMT -5
I had a fun duel against a Revenant recently in FFA. Granted this was in a maxed Nightingale and the Rev probably was only 1.11 or so. As soon as he teleported to me I hit fly, waited in the air about 8-10 secs til his grey damage resist wore off, dropped down and unloaded on him. Rinse and repeat! I'm sure this wouldn't work now against a MK 3, but in a few updates who knows! It might. What'd you arm it with? Havoc, Scatter, Venom. Also used a Beak and on repair: damage. With Virginia Walker I have a flight ready in time for a rev's teleport. |
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Post by Browncoats4ever on May 17, 2022 16:02:35 GMT -5
 Sorry, Leo. |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 17, 2022 17:59:33 GMT -5
This is an easy answer for me: Scorpion. The effect on the meta is that many perfectly fine robots become usable again because there is no more wall camper appearing behind them with stealth and maxed Sonics to delete them faster than a Harpy does. Scorpion is so utterly one-dimensional with its design and actively punishes people for simply running certain robots, even if those robots could otherwise do well. Oh, how much better the game would be without this stupid robot… THIS. I started in the Summer of 2016. Scorpion, and only Scorpion, has got me to simply stop. Stop playing and just passively watch my tablet until the Scorpion dies or the match ends. Yeah, doesn't help my team much but there it is, the thing that removes the zeal I have to fight on. Given my self inflicted limits, most Scorpions who ravage the battlefields where I am are unstoppable, leveled far above the bots around them. There's no ‘low HP and middling firepower’ with them. They erase the bots they attack and disappear. Other times I will look at the Scorpion but then look away and play on as if it isn't there. Sometimes I will fight, if I'm in a bot like one of my Mk3 Vits, that has a chance. Recently I've taken to loitering behind the battle line, out of range of the teleport but near the most likely target and hammer the Scorpion when it attacks my teammate. That's the best option. |
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Post by Somebody’s Mom on May 17, 2022 22:08:59 GMT -5
I’m running a Scorp again just for Harpys…scorp “no skill?” Oh yeah, pop-tart Smuta takes much more skillz…
But ask yourself this, w Scorps low HP pool, at least he’s beatable. Many times lockdown then beatable. Live to fight another day.. Rev? Go ahead and lock him, dish that first 300k…. And he’s still just standing there… kills you, or beats yo7 up and teleports away….
Even most Rev pilots will tell you it’s boring. That Scorp has to be smart, maneuver in, check his own 6, really watch cooldowns… Revs just like, “I’m goin over there. Doop dee doo
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Post by shawngonakillyou on May 17, 2022 22:19:21 GMT -5
I’m running a Scorp again just for Harpys…scorp “no skill?” Oh yeah, pop-tart Smuta takes much more skillz… But ask yourself this, w Scorps low HP pool, at least he’s beatable. Many times lockdown then beatable. Live to fight another day.. Rev? Go ahead and lock him, dish that first 300k…. And he’s still just standing there… kills you, or beats yo7 up and teleports away…. Even most Rev pilots will tell you it’s boring. That Scorp has to be smart, maneuver in, check his own 6, really watch cooldowns… Revs just like, “I’m goin over there. Doop dee doo 100% accurate. I don’t think scorpion takes as much skill as many other bots, but definitely less than Revenant. But, Revenant has to live with its decision where Scorpion can (if piloted with skill and built well (anticontrol)) constantly ambush. It is the point of the bot and it was that singular trait (the ability to teleport back) for why I chose Scorpion over Revenant. Skills wise, I think the bendy birds may be the worst, but the bouncy house birds that use other weapons are a step above scorpion IMO ( I also use scorpion). Their teleport covers much less ground than a scorpion putting them closer to destruction. 350M is a pretty safe distance. We’re really picking nits here though. They’re all pretty garbage bots  . Scorpion is a blast to pilot though - as I said above, the ultimate FU bot. |
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on May 18, 2022 2:10:01 GMT -5
I agree with 079, our true enemy is the scorpion, other bots may have teleport abilities but not at this scale, scorpion has decent enough firepower as well as a dumb ability it can abuse to get basically free kills, i remember so many matches where when i payed less than 100% attention to my back, a scorpion drained me and killed me, now i always get so paranoid i have to check my back every 2 seconds. My erebus so far has caught 3 of them trying to score a free kill off of me, it didn't end well for them a tip for you typhon and erebus players, as soon as a scorpion teleports to you disable them, then they can't teleport away, try to kill them in that time every scorpion killed is a teammate saved from a grisly fate Death to the Scorpion. Long live the Scorpion. Ironically who you need to kill that Red Harpy or Siren.....? Scorpion with Whiteout drone. I'm not advocating for them but they serve a purpose. Kephri and the almost as nearly indestructible Revenant, yeah they can 「fluffernutter」 off.... |
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Post by shadethefluffmech on May 18, 2022 3:15:28 GMT -5
All of you
No offense
Are pretty terrible if you're more concerned about rev then Ravana
I ãfluffernutterãing hate Ravana with every ounce of my being
I have a rev
It's not a good bot :/
Rev is highly overrated and overhated
Ravana needs nerfed
It is unkillable and bullãdookieã and I'm actually getting angry right now
also again I have a khepri
its not unkillable in any capacity unless you're trying to kill me with something pre dash era >:/
ever tried to kill a 「fluffernutter」ing ravana with 3 sonics and its 「smart person」 pilot who gives it a 3rd 「fluffernutter」ing charge?
good luck
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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 18, 2022 3:24:13 GMT -5
I’m running a Scorp again just for Harpys…scorp “no skill?” Oh yeah, pop-tart Smuta takes much more skillz… But ask yourself this, w Scorps low HP pool, at least he’s beatable. Many times lockdown then beatable. Live to fight another day.. Rev? Go ahead and lock him, dish that first 300k…. And he’s still just standing there… kills you, or beats yo7 up and teleports away…. Even most Rev pilots will tell you it’s boring. That Scorp has to be smart, maneuver in, check his own 6, really watch cooldowns… Revs just like, “I’m goin over there. Doop dee doo This is so true - you can actually kill scorpions without requiring a titan. My best way to deal with maxed Revenants in my Luchador is jumps and fire them away, hopefully off a cliff. I don't see as many now though, it's weird, maybe 2 - 3 of the really tough ones per game, and a couple of low level ones that die really quickly. |
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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 18, 2022 3:27:06 GMT -5
All of you No offense Are pretty terrible if you're more concerned about rev then Ravana I ãÂÂfluffernutterãÂÂing hate Ravana with every ounce of my being I have a rev It's not a good bot :/ Rev is highly overrated and overhated Ravana needs nerfed It is unkillable and bullãÂÂdookieã and I'm actually getting angry right now also again I have a khepri its not unkillable in any capacity unless you're trying to kill me with something pre dash era >:/ ever tried to kill a ãfluffernutterãing ravana with 3 sonics and its ãsmart personã pilot who gives it a 3rd ãfluffernutterãing charge? good luck I actually see so many sonic Ravanas now - maxed out they are nasty. They are a big problem for my tanks, scarring them for life with the sonic damage. Really annoying when I get caught by one in my Khepri, because those 「female dog」es move fast, and do a lot of damage. Once they are out of transcendence charges, they go down pretty fast, but still, they are the reason my Khepri is sometimes killed way early. |
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Post by shadethefluffmech on May 18, 2022 3:33:24 GMT -5
All of you No offense Are pretty terrible if you're more concerned about rev then Ravana I ãÃÂÃÂfluffernutterãÃÂÃÂing hate Ravana with every ounce of my being I have a rev It's not a good bot :/ Rev is highly overrated and overhated Ravana needs nerfed It is unkillable and bullãÃÂÃÂdookieãÃÂàand I'm actually getting angry right now also again I have a khepri its not unkillable in any capacity unless you're trying to kill me with something pre dash era >:/ ever tried to kill a ãÂÂfluffernutterãÂÂing ravana with 3 sonics and its ãÂÂsmart personã pilot who gives it a 3rd ãÂÂfluffernutterãÂÂing charge? good luck I actually see so many sonic Ravanas now - maxed out they are nasty. They are a big problem for my tanks, scarring them for life with the sonic damage. Really annoying when I get caught by one in my Khepri, because those ãfemale dogães move fast, and do a lot of damage. Once they are out of transcendence charges, they go down pretty fast, but still, they are the reason my Khepri is sometimes killed way early. Maybe a month ago I was doing 50 thousand ffa matches for etasks and I should say I was maybe g2 at the time full maxed mk3 ravana sonics with the tri charge bull「dookie」 needless to say the douchebag destroyed the entire match people weren't even fighting each other anymore just trying to avoid the 「wee-wee」head :3 I was very very angry |
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Post by The VVatcher on May 18, 2022 5:34:00 GMT -5
None. I can’t seem to pick one. The Revenant is not as strong as it used to be. Even in legend league they are starting to be replaced for an extra Kephri. People are starting to run 4 Kephris.
Now if it was weapons. HMG needs an instant delete.
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Post by BB on May 18, 2022 6:04:40 GMT -5
as someone who runs high powered Striders and gets dropped on regularly just as I am turning that red beacon to white. I can and do dish it right back to Scorpions IF I have a couple dashes in reserve, but Revs are just …sigh
I hate all easy button mechs equally across the board, but teleporting tanks are such a 「dookie」 idea that appeals to lazy donut players IMO.
I suppose thatâs why they are always getting gang mauled.
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Post by shawngonakillyou on May 18, 2022 8:31:05 GMT -5
All of you No offense Are pretty terrible if you're more concerned about rev then Ravana I ãfluffernutterãing hate Ravana with every ounce of my being I have a rev It's not a good bot :/ Rev is highly overrated and overhated Ravana needs nerfed It is unkillable and bullãdookieã and I'm actually getting angry right now also again I have a khepri its not unkillable in any capacity unless you're trying to kill me with something pre dash era >:/ ever tried to kill a 「fluffernutter」ing ravana with 3 sonics and its 「smart person」 pilot who gives it a 3rd 「fluffernutter」ing charge? good luck My Flame/Quarker Khepri does pretty well against the Ravana because every second they are out of trancendence they are being whittled away because I can always fire on them and they are not uber tanky. I usually win those fights. In my bendy Khepri, I usually lose. Ravana is a growing problem for sure. Those with very skilled players who built them properly are nearly impossible to take down, but I'd say that about most any of the top bots in the game - in very skilled hands, built to perfection, any top bot is going to be a huge problem. One thing I do not understand is how Ravanas can still use their ability when I use EMP/blackout. I have never seen a Ravana not be able to use their ability whether I hit them with Murometz EMP, Typon EMP, Whiteout EMP.... Anyone else see this phenomenon and can you explain it to me? I thought EMPs were not bypassable. |
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. Scorpion is a blast to pilot though - as I said above, the ultimate FU bot.
