Kang Dae Buff Ideas

You don't need to buff the Kang dae. You just need to replace them with tridents.

I would like to see the high velocity, antitank-like weapons be able to wreck physical shields. Something like an additional 25%-50% damage to the shield portion. This would give some less popular weapons some more play against the seemingly-endless horde of Britbots that are currently being fielded.

Personally i do think that Both the Kang Dae and the Nashorns will be reworked
in the future months.

Nashorn and Kang Dae are strange weapons, that share most of their behaviour,
being almost redundant.

Nashorn has less Alpha damage, but higher RoF,
Kang Dae has more Alpha, but with low RoF.

I do think that both weapons must be reworked to make em good to be used.
Right now, there is no incentive, being totally, and i mean not barely,
but massively outperformed by Tridents and Trebuchets.

Trebuchets has awesome Alpha damage, and can have awesome RoF at the same time.
Tridents has much lower range, but incredible damage, RoF and the best splash in the game.

Your idea of differentiating the Kang Dae mechanics from the Nashorn is a good idea.
Not really sure if it could ever see light inside the game, as many have mentioned,
physical shields are the Incentive to buy those Au Mechs.

Higher RoF is excluded from the equation, they are slow weapons, you could tweak
maybe by some 10-20% the RoF, but they would still be too similar to what they are now.

For me, both the weapons need their projectile speed to be increased, to increase accuracy
on long range a little further.

And need a buff on Damage. Right now you can ignore sustained fire of a Nashorn, even if it has
better RoF, and the Kang Dae is just... a shade of a trebuchet.

Instead of making Kang Dae bypass the shields with %, i would associate a 2x modifier of damage
vs shields only (Base damage 1x vs Mechs, 2x vs shields).
Like it is very strong to counter them. That would make it "unique" while still leaving
the advantage of shields there.

If the damage is that low I don't see how it's OP. With an avarage of 20k per shot (and the long KD cooldown) it wouldn't be so imbalancing against shielded one's. The galahad has 120k and can be destroyed by 2 tridend volley....

I don't think the Kwk (Nashorn) needs a buff, at all. It is already very close to a Trebuchet as it is currently.

Kang Dae would definitely needs a buff. And IMO :

* Shield-piercing would be an awesome feature. I don't think it is technically possible for Pix to make it though.
* Reload is ridiculously bad. 15 seconds when the Nashorn is 9. Make it 12.
* Buff the damage.

Then it would become a bit more viable.

I think it's technically possible. They already assign the damage to both shield and Robot with rockets and make energy bypass energy shield...

The Kang Date does have a niche, it's for impatient people. You see, much like the new machine guns, a Nashorn requires you to keep whaling on one person to build up damage. However, the one advantage Kang Date has is all that damage is in one shot. This can allow you to juggle targets and switch between enemies based on remaining health. Other than that it's not much better.

9 second reload at 9,107 damage per shot
54,642 [6 rounds] [3 seconds left on reload]
Nashorn

15 second reload at 11,953 damage per shot
47,812 [4 rounds] [exact 4 shots]
Kang Dae

And now here's why decreased reload time and buffed damage won't work

12 second reload at 11,953 damage per shot
59,765 [5 rounds] [exact 5 shots]
Kang Dae (decreased reload)

And that's without even buffing the damage, it would render the Nashorn pointless, for example, lets go ahead and slap 1k extra damage on the max damage and take the damage per minute up to 64,765, then, let's give it physical shield piercing ability and basically make all other sniper guns obsolete

In case it wasn't obvious enough buffing damage and decreasing reload speed is a bad idea, give it the ability to pierce physical shields at 100% damage, don't decrease the damage it deals by piercing, all close range anti shield and mid range anti shield weapons deal 100% to the bot so why shouldn't a long range anti shield weapon.

Fair enough, tried to get a raw DPS number for KwK since it doesn't match perfectly to 60 seconds but decided to write it instead from a "practical" standpoint of just how much it could spit out in under a minute, the number came out to something like 66k something or another with an endless string of 3s

Also, anciles are a dig at poor man weapons, i.e. Punishers, Molots, Nashorns etc... it doesn't make sense scientifically that an energy shield stops physical rounds, wouldn't it stop energy weapons? But I wouldn't change game mechanics for that reason. That is what keeps you getting better weapons.

I think of it like an energy field that is solidifying the molecules that are energized.  It takes power to do this, which is why it is drained if you keep hitting it.  Energy weapons would not be as solid so the physical aspects are not the same.  In my mind, if there was such a thing in reality, it could be tuned to stop energy too... but I see why War Robots doesn't have that.  But, it doesn't matter really lol... it IS just a game.  My point was that there is an absolute Rock, Paper, Scissors aspect to the game.  And Physical shield bots have their counter in tridents and other splash weapons, whereas Ancile shield bots are weak to Plasma.  Making a weapon that skews that paradigm will skew the whole concept of simplicity in counters that has made this game so great, in my opinion.  The balance of counters to strengths that we have, is a good one.

Kang Dae could just simply penetrate Anciles (no damage to shield, the shield would just not react to it, too fast rail gun bullet or whatever) and physical shields (damage to shield) and bots (damage to bot).

Considering the rate of fire and DPM, it wouldn't be OP at all, it would just make it a viable weapon. Now it is basically useless, either Nashorn or Trebuchet is better for every niche.

So, I know to keep the balance, you have to have a counter, for what kind shields. So let's say, which would make sense to me; that ecu shield were made of a substance that was too expensive to cover a robot, but would shield against physical and direct shots. The substance that the ecu was made of the weakness would be melting from energy weapon i.e. the energy weapon would do more damage to the ecu. Therefore, the ancile shield could stop energy weapons, but be drained by them, then physical rounds would drain the shield and do damage to the robot but not as much damage to robot as a robot that has no ancile.

Based on how Pix altered the Molots and Punishers, I believe that every bullet is actually "fired" in game. Based on that, it would be possible to give some bullets different properties than others. The hard shields also have HP - we just don't see it in game. Balance IS key, but the current balance means that the Nash and KD don't fit well.
Tridents do splash damage vs hard shield
Tridents bypass ECU
Nash/KD get nothing. At higher levels, this give you a near meaningless population to shoot at AND require a greater degree of skill to use to even get those when they DO appear!

Option 1: Keep them as all-rounders. Make them a little better at both. Maybe that still means they aren't good at anything.
Option 2: Pick a shield that it is good at countering. Perhaps a shield cracker round that does extra damage vs physical shields, or give it a reason to go through ECUs
Option 3: Mini-EMP rounds - some form of interference to the hit target (slowed or visibility affected - like the result of hyrdra hits)
Option 4: Tazer Rounds that do electrical splash to nearby reds
Option 5: Sniper scope: Visibility to hard-shield HP. At least that way they can see when they hit their target, and would allow tactical information to flow to team mates in squad battles. I would often like to know if the Brit-bot coming my way has a full shield or not.