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Post by Koalabear on Nov 15, 2021 12:29:57 GMT -5
Haven't seen any threads yet discussing these two. What do you guys think? Between the two, I think I'm more interested in the Stalker. It's ability is a combo of the Brickhouse and MD's, except it only affects itself. The Hidezo's ability is a combo of the Lancer and Redox. But, I see it more as a light nuisance mech.
On the other hand, I'm a bit dismayed that they are coming out with combo abilities. Yes, they kinda already did with Surge and Redox, but looks like this is the trend. Didn't War Robots go down this path too??
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Post by Adazahi on Nov 15, 2021 12:40:47 GMT -5
This does look like the first step War Robots took, going from Griffin (Lancer) to Inquisitor (Hidezo)... it's the fate of all mobile games, really.
I hope im very very wrong, I really do. Watching War Robots go from a skill based shooter to an invincible p2w murderfest really sucked, who knows, maybe they wont fall so fast since they make money with cosmetics.
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Post by punishingcossack on Nov 15, 2021 13:10:14 GMT -5
so far, new bots have been underwhelming (Redox, surge, arachnos) or well balanced (disc launchers), so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now wrt new content
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Post by S1E1 on Nov 15, 2021 13:58:08 GMT -5
Panther kind of has a combo ability too with the net blocking shots and slowing enemies. I don't really think there is too much they can do about that - really there are only so many ideas and then you start mixing and matching.
Overall I am not really worried about either of these messing with the game too much. They seem like interesting but pretty balanced combos. And Plarium has a lot better track record on making new content balanced or even underwhelming than Pixonic ever did. They also are slower at introducing it, which I prefer. I know some people want as much new content as quick as possible but I think that really hurts game economies and f2p players. Better that it is a bit slow and folks actually have time to get everything.
I kind of doubt from the abilities and firepower that either of these will even be part of the meta. They seem like they are more for CPC than tourney. I am also relieved that neither of these has a freeze ability. The maps are too small for another freeze bot (and really they need to cool it on slowdown gear too). What has me annoyed is that there will be freezing Javelins. We don't need that at all. The Two Arches map is already a total mess from AI Zephyr and Surges and it also a Jav-friendly map. When freeze Javs come out we are all going hate that map.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 15, 2021 14:19:55 GMT -5
I think to balance the Freeze JR6, the freeze would have to be either a gauge that needs to be filled, or a chance to freeze similar so the JR6 chance for critical. Also, the freeze will have to be weaker than Zep's EMP, meaning it should freeze the legs of a mech, but not the torso twist or weapons.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 15, 2021 16:39:01 GMT -5
This Hidezo has huge potential with a good team .. I might almost kinda want one.
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Post by Old-Cat on Nov 15, 2021 17:24:41 GMT -5
This Hidezo has huge potential with a good team .. I might almost kinda want one. Me too. I've been debating on what 6th mech I want to focus. I'm looking for something fun; jumping on peoples heads seems like it would fit the bill. " ohh, does your head hurt?" " so sorry. not really."
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 15, 2021 18:14:26 GMT -5
This Hidezo has huge potential with a good team .. I might almost kinda want one. Me too. I've been debating on what 6th mech I want to focus. I'm looking for something fun; jumping on peoples heads seems like it would fit the bill. " ohh, does your head hurt?" " so sorry. not really." I’d been considering dumping some resources into MD. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium in their infinite wisdom decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. But now I think I’ll hold off on that for one of these new ones. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. And yes, jumping on people’s heads does sound fun. 🤣
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Post by S1E1 on Nov 15, 2021 18:36:25 GMT -5
Me too. I've been debating on what 6th mech I want to focus. I'm looking for something fun; jumping on peoples heads seems like it would fit the bill. " ohh, does your head hurt?" " so sorry. not really." I’d been considering dumping some resources into MD. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium in their infinite wisdom decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. But now I think I’ll hold off on that for one of these new ones. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. And yes, jumping on people’s heads does sound fun. 🤣 Lol, I like the sequence there. That is exactly why I am holding off on DL12s. I want to see how everything really shakes out for a while before I put another item on the upgrade list. Also I suspect DL16s are going to quickly become the must-have item. Supposedly there is a day when coming when I'll have enough blueprints to run 32EN Panther and Guardian (emphasis on supposedly). I figure if that day ever actually comes I'll probably want a burst weapon over SB16s.
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Post by Old-Cat on Nov 15, 2021 19:36:52 GMT -5
I’d been considering dumping some resources into MD. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium in their infinite wisdom decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. But now I think I’ll hold off on that for one of these new ones. After I get a second copy of a DL12, after I rank up my first DL12, after I save up enough resources to actually GET a DL12, after Plarium decides to make it available outside of their rip-off loot boxes. And yes, jumping on people’s heads does sound fun. 🤣 Lol, I like the sequence there. That is exactly why I am holding off on DL12s. I want to see how everything really shakes out for a while before I put another item on the upgrade list. Also I suspect DL16s are going to quickly become the must-have item. Supposedly there is a day when coming when I'll have enough blueprints to run 32EN Panther and Guardian (emphasis on supposedly). I figure if that day ever actually comes I'll probably want a burst weapon over SB16s. Yes. I have the Acoins and credits for both the DL16 and the MR12 in the bank, as you say, they will be must have. I’m itching to move one of my mechs 6.7 too, I have three at 6.6 now. However, my self talk has the phrase “ stay the course “ repeating like a broken record.
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Post by S1E1 on Nov 16, 2021 8:46:49 GMT -5
Lol, I like the sequence there. That is exactly why I am holding off on DL12s. I want to see how everything really shakes out for a while before I put another item on the upgrade list. Also I suspect DL16s are going to quickly become the must-have item. Supposedly there is a day when coming when I'll have enough blueprints to run 32EN Panther and Guardian (emphasis on supposedly). I figure if that day ever actually comes I'll probably want a burst weapon over SB16s. Yes. I have the Acoins and credits for both the DL16 and the MR12 in the bank, as you say, they will be must have. I’m itching to move one of my mechs 6.7 too, I have three at 6.6 now. However, my self talk has the phrase “ stay the course “ repeating like a broken record. Good old "Stay the Course" I know that album well! I'm curious, what are the A-Coin costs for your three 6.6 mechs? I am trying to figure out the savings goals for the mechs I am going to max and they are probably similar. Also are more blueprints required before you can upgrade a 6.6 or is it just A-Coins?
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Post by Old-Cat on Nov 16, 2021 10:01:24 GMT -5
Yes. I have the Acoins and credits for both the DL16 and the MR12 in the bank, as you say, they will be must have. I’m itching to move one of my mechs 6.7 too, I have three at 6.6 now. However, my self talk has the phrase “ stay the course “ repeating like a broken record. Good old "Stay the Course" I know that album well! I'm curious, what are the A-Coin costs for your three 6.6 mechs? I am trying to figure out the savings goals for the mechs I am going to max and they are probably similar. Also are more blueprints required before you can upgrade a 6.6 or is it just A-Coins? Yes sir. Its only the cost of blue prints. My panther's cost to upgrade is 2900 or so, less than half the blue prints needed. Guardian's cost is 6192 w no blue prints.
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