GenValentine
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Post by GenValentine on Nov 3, 2021 0:40:16 GMT -5
I'm inching my way closer to unlocking Zephyr, who has always been my top pick for my 5th slot before I started really getting into the game. After the recent buffs and changes, I imagine some things may have been shaken around a bit. Sure the Top 2 remain solid but I havent seen a solid unwavering support for the last three slots. Guardian and Zephyr appear to be challenging for one. Same goes for the tanks. Cheetah has made an appearance in recent games. Redox, while always being criticized appears to be always part of someone's hangar. The only criteria right now would be late game viability. Not whale level spending so very likely 6* EN only. Hopefully, the poll will help newbies (like me) not waste resources needlessly. Thank you in advance for your participation. EDIT: Please choose your top Five (5) pics. Taking everything into consideration (eg flexibility in maps, weapon availability, load out options, best compliments your whole hangar, etc.) and a railgun is put to your head, which bot would you pick as your 5th mech?
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Post by punishingcossack on Nov 3, 2021 2:16:48 GMT -5
uh you're missing zephyr in your poll
my top 4 are KS, panther, guardian, zephyr. last spot could go to any other bot. I personally run an Ares, but others are viable too. I'm just personally saving up for the new weapons, hence I'm not levelling any more bots up
as a side note, the bots I mentioned just now are all easily obtainable, and the first four I mentioned would be on the top 5/6 lists of 99% of players whose opinions you should listen to.
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Commander Dog
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Post by Commander Dog on Nov 3, 2021 2:57:25 GMT -5
I'm pretty set on four of my five and no surprise they are Killshot, Panther, Guardian and Zephyr.
Fifth atm is Ares, but until I can rank him up to 20+, he'll hardly get any minutes on the field. I'm keeping it in as a placeholder for whichever 12en weapon I don't use on my Killshot.
Tempted by Redox. More for the EN than anything else. Feels like a long haul having to drag a Paragon up five ranks.
I do have a Shadow and may give him a run out soon. But I'm not convinced he's end-game material. At least not in my hands. Cheetah looks like fun, but again, not sure it would suit me end-game.
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If you're not fussed about maxxing the Killshot, Zephyr and Ares, at least there are lots of viable 20en loadouts. Arc 10, DL12 + 8, LA10, MR 12 + 8, Carb 10, etc.
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Post by S1E1 on Nov 3, 2021 9:52:21 GMT -5
Like others have said there is really a top four: Panther, Killshot, Guardian, Zephyr.
Those are the ones to concentrate resources on for endgame in tournament. Ares seems a viable fifth (and I found it useful in early and mid-game) but these days I'll rarely choose to drop it in tourney before these other four. It feels like if it truly was a top five bot then there would be endgame maps where I would want to drop it early on.
There are two bots that I am seeing some others drop early on certain maps and getting good results. One is Redox, which seems good only on small maps and only when it is maxed and carrying double Railguns. The other is maxed Shadows carrying double MR8s. Few players run them consistently but the ones who are good with them are devastatingly effective on midsized maps with a lot of cover. Personally I am using a level 5 Paragon on some maps to carry double RM12s in case I need them, but really that is just because it was a cheap bot to easily get to 24EN.
Basically I think there is no fifth bot. There are several bots that should rotate in and out of the fifth slot depending on the map. Prioritize the top four and getting top weapons. Probably make Ares your main fifth early on just for climbing the ranks but don't overinvest, and don't worry about the others until you reach endgame and have a hangar around 4000ish SP. By that point you'll be easily earning A-Coins (credits are the crunch late game).
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Post by Old-Cat on Nov 3, 2021 10:24:26 GMT -5
I know it gets less love than it did before the the shield switch-a-rooney, I still like my Jug for CPC.
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Post by Deadeye on Nov 3, 2021 10:55:20 GMT -5
For me, Panther and KS are unquestionably top 2. I love the Guardian, but that speed is a drawback when compared to the first 2, so I can't elevate it beyond that. I'd say it's a bit more versatile than the Zephyr, but I like Zephyr A LOT! I use it a ton because of how fun it is with the Arc10s on it. I admit it's not for every situation and the Guardian is more versatile with the high EN. I'd have to say the Guardian and Zephyr are tied at 3 and 4 on my list. Both are the kings of CQC against multiple enemies and can rival the KS in CQC 1v1.
I'd have to give my 5th spot to the Ares after having played it for the last 2 months. It's a CPC beast and mine's not even maxed. It has performed well since 6.1 with Carb10s on it. It's going to be the 3rd bot I max in my hanger actually because I want to shift my Carb12s over. The Zephyr is better IMO, but it doesn't need more EN for me to be effective with it so I'm in no hurry. I also want something that's not available for the Guardian (DL16s) so I don't want it maxed right now because I don't need the EN again. So, Ares it is.
My favorite tactic in CPC right now is to start in the Ares when I'm facing a RL player and head to center. Most of the time, they don't know what to do as they've started in a KS and can't dig me out. It takes a skilled KS player with a maxed mech and the right loadout to get rid of me. Loving the Ares for this.
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Post by reconnecting on Nov 3, 2021 13:44:19 GMT -5
Panther, Zephyr, Killshot, Guardian of course. 5th I chose Ares because he's tanky. I actually don't have him active right now though. I have Brickhouse as 5th because I like tanky bots and I found some good builds for him. MR12 and Jav6 for one, surprisingly effective on open maps. Or CB12 and TL6. Cheetah is also active just for fun until I tire of him.
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Post by Munki on Nov 3, 2021 15:24:17 GMT -5
The way this game plays from my point of view is different than War Robots since it has a much shorter play clock. There are no 10 minute battles, so I do not really think in terms of 1st drop, 2nd drop, etc. Many battles have me only deploying 1 or 2 mechs so I see the 5 mech hanger more for flexibility for the different maps that would randomly drop in CPC. Most avoid the smaller mechs as they cost more A-Coins to rank up. However, they can be very fun and powerful starting at rank 5. If you can dedicate the coins to them, Shadow and Cheetah are awesome. MD is always a welcome sight for human teammates and the Lancer can go where no other mech can. Many humans are used to fighting Killshot, Panther, Guardian, Juggernaut, Ares, and Zephyrs but do not always anticipate what can be done by the little guys.
For the normal bots, Panther is best IMHO. High EN, nimble speed, wide chassis to allow easy corner shooting, and of course that stasis field.
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cyborge
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Post by cyborge on Nov 3, 2021 21:54:07 GMT -5
My top 5 are what my hangar has now.
Panther SB16+TL6 Killshot RM12+Jav6 Zephyr MR8 Ares PC8s Guadian LA10+LA8
The dream would be:
Panther SB16s Guardian DL16s Killshot RM12s Zephyr MR12s Ares CB12s
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GenValentine
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Post by GenValentine on Nov 3, 2021 23:27:32 GMT -5
12 voters but 55 votes only. Maybe I should've added that you NEED to make that 5th bot choice for this poll. If I may rephrase, taking everything into consideration (Flexibility in maps, weapon availability, load out options, best compliments your hangar, etc.) and a railgun is put to your head, which bot would you pick as your 5th mech?
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Post by punishingcossack on Nov 4, 2021 2:40:24 GMT -5
My top 5 are what my hangar has now. Panther SB16+TL6 Killshot RM12+Jav6 Zephyr MR8 Ares PC8s Guadian LA10+LA8 The dream would be: Panther SB16s Guardian DL16s Killshot RM12s Zephyr MR12s Ares CB12s LOL uh you might wanna consider Panther 2x RG
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cyborge
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Post by cyborge on Nov 4, 2021 4:00:06 GMT -5
My top 5 are what my hangar has now. Panther SB16+TL6 Killshot RM12+Jav6 Zephyr MR8 Ares PC8s Guadian LA10+LA8 The dream would be: Panther SB16s Guardian DL16s Killshot RM12s Zephyr MR12s Ares CB12s LOL uh you might wanna consider Panther 2x RG Kinda thinkign about it but RG seems too overpowered.
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Post by punishingcossack on Nov 4, 2021 12:17:35 GMT -5
LOL uh you might wanna consider Panther 2x RG Kinda thinkign about it but RG seems too overpowered. lol, which is why you should have it. Competing at the highest level in MA basically requires it. You need it b/c the best players won't leave themselves exposed for very long
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Post by reconnecting on Nov 6, 2021 11:42:20 GMT -5
lol, which is why you should have it. Competing at the highest level in MA basically requires it. You need it b/c the best players won't leave themselves exposed for very long Railgun and LA10 works well until you can clone it and put it on a 32 energy mech.
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