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Post by Koalabear on Aug 31, 2021 14:58:27 GMT -5
Ok, I'm still thinking long term and what my hangar will look like without breaking the bank. I'm not adverse to spending here and there, but I won't dish out the $50 plus for a Redox. But, I need to plan for when "daddy takes the t-bird away". I've decided that I like the weapon builds more than the mech. So, I really want to make as much use of my good weapons as possible. Things I've got decently leveled are: JR6, CB12, SB12, SB16, RG16, RM12 My MR8 is my next best and my LA8 and LA10 aren't far behind. All those EN12 and EN16 weapons are cloned. I posted my current hangar in my Hangar Thread, but I'll post it here again.  Basically, I like these builds and may make small tweaks here and there while I work my way up to maxing stuff. But, the more immediate need is a replacement for my second Panther. When they take away the clones, I need to be able to slot something in with something that can carry as much EN or more as soon as possible. The only two mechs in my inventory that have that potential is the Paragon and Arachnos. I have over 5k BPs for the Paragon and not that many for the Arachnos. So, it seems like a no brainer right? Anyway, chime in with your opinion please! |
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 31, 2021 15:51:23 GMT -5
Between the two choices I guess I'd say Paragon. It can probably run the RM12/RG16 combo pretty well from a distance. I don't have either mech levelled well enough to be sure tho.
Personally I'd prioritize doubling your LA10s first - paired with RG10 they are my go-to on more than just the sniper maps. Wish I'd doubled them long ago. And overall I'd lean way more towards upgrading Zephyr and Ares (and getting C10/Arc10s for them) than putting resources into either of those mechs. But I realize you said you really like these weapon combos so then Paragon is likely the better choice.
I have been mulling the idea of levelling a Paragon eventually just to use as a double RM12 mount. The idea being to only have it in reserve for those matches where an opponent drops a double RM setup and then I need one to counter. I really hate RMs tho and try to play them as little as possible. And my guess is that by the time I get around to upgrading my Paragon I might have enough BP to max my Killshot instead. Seems like that is actually considered the best mount for double RM12s nowadays.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 31, 2021 16:03:02 GMT -5
Yeah, when my KS is maxed, I likely will be changing it to RM12. Who woulda thunk it that the fast mech in the game is arguably the best RM12 platform? But...with respect to RM12, they're of limited use against smart human players so I don't know if I really will go this route.
But, yeah, my idea for the Paragon would be to take over the RG16/RM12 build from my hotrod Panther. Panther with the SB16/CB12 combo is such a CQC freak whose only real weakness is a Killshot. The Paragon is stable enough to run RG16 and with it's burst of speed, I should be able to retreat and then spin around to throw a salvo of RM12 at my enemies.
I remember how painful it was to wait for blueprints for the Zephyr. I don't know if I can wait that long. I think the Zephyr will just upgrade organically and if I ever max it, then it will likely run a RG16/MR8 build.
As for Ares and Jugg, I think I will prioritize them lower because I don't really like tank play. If I ever max the Ares, then for sure it'll be a sniper for old Thanos build. (new Thanos build being dual RG16)
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 31, 2021 16:52:44 GMT -5
Yeah, when my KS is maxed, I likely will be changing it to RM12. Who woulda thunk it that the fast mech in the game is arguably the best RM12 platform? But...with respect to RM12, they're of limited use against smart human players so I don't know if I really will go this route. But, yeah, my idea for the Paragon would be to take over the RG16/RM12 build from my hotrod Panther. Panther with the SB16/CB12 combo is such a CQC freak whose only real weakness is a Killshot. The Paragon is stable enough to run RG16 and with it's burst of speed, I should be able to retreat and then spin around to throw a salvo of RM12 at my enemies. I remember how painful it was to wait for blueprints for the Zephyr. I don't know if I can wait that long. I think the Zephyr will just upgrade organically and if I ever max it, then it will likely run a RG16/MR8 build. As for Ares and Jugg, I think I will prioritize them lower because I don't really like tank play. If I ever max the Ares, then for sure it'll be a sniper for old Thanos build. (new Thanos build being dual RG16) I've been running SB16/CB12 on my Guardian as a beacon defender/tank killer. It is not my top mech to drop but it gets the job done. I divvy up my RG16s between my Panthers with LA10 on one and MR8 on another. The latter is the better brawler but they both work at close-, mid- and long-range. Gods am I going to miss having the speed of two Panthers when they get rid of 2nd copies! I really prefer them over Guardian for the sniper role because you change position so quickly. That's what appeals to me about Paragon too. I have encountered some pretty effective snipers running well-levelled Paragons. And the speed burst is effective paired with RM12s. I was up against a guy last tournament heat running it with 2xRM12s on the Stacks map. When I'd charge him to take him out, he'd loop up the ramp and around the containers, and of course it is all in an enemy spawn area, so AIs would keep popping in as I chased him and freeze me or clip me in the back. Total pain to deal with but very well played on his part. |
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Post by reconnecting on Aug 31, 2021 17:33:42 GMT -5
I chose Paragon, though I don't like that mech much. If it were me I would get a Zephyr.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 1, 2021 7:31:35 GMT -5
I chose Paragon, though I don't like that mech much. If it were me I would get a Zephyr. i have the Zephyr at 20EN now and blueprints are not common to get. Hence, the need to look elsewhere for my cloned Panther replacement. |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 1, 2021 11:45:54 GMT -5
Another argument for the Paragon is that I have all the skins for it, including the Hotrod and the Milspec. The Hotrod looks silly but cool and the Milspec loosk downright mean!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 1, 2021 11:53:20 GMT -5
Another argument for the Paragon is that I have all the skins for it, including the Hotrod and the Milspec. The Hotrod looks silly but cool and the Milspec loosk downright mean! Hell yeah... Milspec is my favorite skin in the game. Wish I could get it for all of them. |
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Post by reconnecting on Sept 1, 2021 11:55:24 GMT -5
I chose Paragon, though I don't like that mech much. If it were me I would get a Zephyr. i have the Zephyr at 20EN now and blueprints are not common to get. Hence, the need to look elsewhere for my cloned Panther replacement. CB12 and TL6 would be a good fit on your Zephyr. |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 1, 2021 12:35:45 GMT -5
i have the Zephyr at 20EN now and blueprints are not common to get. Hence, the need to look elsewhere for my cloned Panther replacement. CB12 and TL6 would be a good fit on your Zephyr. I've done that and I didn't like it that much. |
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Post by reconnecting on Sept 1, 2021 12:42:35 GMT -5
CB12 and TL6 would be a good fit on your Zephyr. I've done that and I didn't like it that much. Someone mentioned CB12 and MR8. That sounds really good. |
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Post by Old-Cat on Sept 1, 2021 14:29:41 GMT -5
I chose Paragon, though I don't like that mech much. If it were me I would get a Zephyr. i have the Zephyr at 20EN now and blueprints are not common to get. Hence, the need to look elsewhere for my cloned Panther replacement. Shoot. The carb 12 w any short range 8 is nasty. Zephyr would be my pick all day long, I hardly ever rush anything. I’ve used a few Acoins here and there for the last remaining blueprints, they come at some point. 20 energy is nothing to scoff at when trained on a frozen red. |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 1, 2021 15:42:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I've done MR8/CB12 on the Zephyr and it's a pretty good build. The problem for me is that while I'm busy killing my target, I'm also getting swarmed by reds. Plus, even with this combo, I can't quite kill a tank fast enough, especially if it's shield is up.
I'm not abandoning the Zep...don't get me wrong. I just can't level it to where I want it right now, so it's gotta go on the back burner until I get more blueprints.
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 5, 2021 21:25:17 GMT -5
This is what I'm going with until all of the exotic and prototype weapons are obtained and 5.7 or second copy'd.  |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 6, 2021 10:25:33 GMT -5
So, I went with Paragon this morning once I got my compensation. I didn't go crazy and max it though, just brought it to 28EN so that it's a direct replacement for my Panther. I realized that there's no point in maxing it right now because I don't have enough high leveled weapons to split between all my mechs.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 7, 2021 8:01:23 GMT -5
So, I went with Paragon this morning once I got my compensation. I didn't go crazy and max it though, just brought it to 28EN so that it's a direct replacement for my Panther. I realized that there's no point in maxing it right now because I don't have enough high leveled weapons to split between all my mechs. I dig that you are still using that bot... Kudos! I do like it and may throw some res at it at some point, myself. It's a fun mech!
Would be cool to have an EN 12, 14, or 16, sustained fire weapon like PCs or ACs, though... I loved rushing and strafing back in the day... coming out of nowhere and just swiping the flanks of whatever was in view before getting back to cover and trying to "close the eye" again. "Hide and seek"... or maybe "tag". |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 7, 2021 8:25:47 GMT -5
Yeah, can you imagine strafing or charging in with the super sprint? Or strafing with the ability on...it's basically the only mech that can strafe fast. For that tactic, you'd definitely need a weapon that can auto aim assist like the CBs and PCs or even SBs and TLs. I'm starting to think that SB16/CB12 would be a good weapon combo for the Paragon.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Sept 7, 2021 9:55:48 GMT -5
Paragon is definitely seen as an underdog, but even if you get in a pinch he can survive a couple mistakes on your part. The idea of hide and seek definitely allows the ambush ifbyou can get into position and still have enough health. Carbs, TLs, and SBs are a good choice for sure.
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