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Post by nocluevok on Aug 23, 2021 12:51:07 GMT -5
I'm not seeing any difference. Still fighting the same bunch of solo players or getting mowed down by clan squads.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 23, 2021 13:21:43 GMT -5
I'm not seeing any difference. Still fighting the same bunch of solo players or getting mowed down by clan squads. The MM works on player EXP and ONLY player EXP. The people further down the line (200K+ EXP) won't start seeing new blood until NEXT summer. |
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Post by Old-Cat on Aug 23, 2021 14:46:16 GMT -5
I'm seeing tourney heats that are much easier to win. I've been in heats w a single division one player multiple times over the last week or so. This seems to indicate the player base has gotten bigger. I kind of feel for the lower level players, there is no way they can put up the numbers I can. But then again, we all started w that disadvantage.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 23, 2021 14:54:06 GMT -5
I'm seeing tourney heats that are much easier to win. I've been in heats w a single division one player multiple times over the last week or so. This seems to indicate the player base has gotten bigger. I kind of feel for the lower level players, there is no way they can put up the numbers I can. But then again, we all started w that disadvantage. Thing is... a good low level player can easily pull in 400 pts a match... and those are the low XP players that end up in my Heats, typically lol. But yeah, the average XP of the first 16 of the last heat I played, excluding me, was around 10K. There are definitely new players.
nocluevok - I have noticed that I don't get all AI games NEAR as often, and I have seen a lot of names that I am not used to seeing when they are humans. I had pretty much seen everyone I played against at least once before Global, but that's not the case anymore. A lot of new names. That's really all I have seen that was obvious, though.
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Post by nocluevok on Aug 23, 2021 15:02:08 GMT -5
I'm seeing tourney heats that are much easier to win. I've been in heats w a single division one player multiple times over the last week or so. This seems to indicate the player base has gotten bigger. I kind of feel for the lower level players, there is no way they can put up the numbers I can. But then again, we all started w that disadvantage. LOL. Point-wise, I've been curb stomped by Div 5, 3 bot hangers putting up crazy numbers with mediocre weapons.Makes me wonder if their Red AI is even packing. |
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Post by Old-Cat on Aug 23, 2021 15:08:08 GMT -5
Ha ha. They were on my team earlier in the day.
I won champ last night w 6000 or so, I'll take it. Either way, I have seen many more heats w mostly lower level players.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 23, 2021 15:36:02 GMT -5
I'm seeing tougher TDM games. Where I used to easily rack up kills with RM12 Guardian or Panther for those pesky tasks, now I'm running into more human players and smarter AI.
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Post by nocluevok on Aug 23, 2021 16:36:50 GMT -5
Ha ha. They were on my team earlier in the day. I won champ last night w 6000 or so, I'll take it. Either way, I have seen many more heats w mostly lower level players. Skipped a couple of tournament days and did pretty well myself. Banking the a-coins for the next loot rush. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Aug 23, 2021 19:09:34 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat.
There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Aug 23, 2021 19:52:10 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat. There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr. This really isn't true through and through, so if its working for you be glad.. once it's figured out it wont be to your advantage that you have second copies. New players have a FAR better advantage in tournaments than higher ranked players. Div 10/9/8/7 can easily gain 400+ points a match, not many Div1, 300k+ XP players are doing that .. some 300s here and there but they aren't easily able to do ~4800 pts without much effort that the lower divs can. If they (lower) do it correctly they can do 9000 + without much hassle. Since global launch in each bracket so far I've had maybe 1 other div 1 player, a mid div player and everyone else 8 or 9.. and they easily rank the points higher in a few matches. This last round I played a total of 15 matches, wasnt worth chasing people who can play 3-4 matches and double my point output. Tournaments are the only place I will see the influx of new accounts since MM is more based on XP. I'm curious long term if they really have the edge if they play the tournaments correctly and obtain the resources at a better rate. Simply brackets need redone, badly. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Aug 23, 2021 20:00:47 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat. There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr. This really isn't true through and through, so if its working for you be glad.. once it's figured out it wont be to your advantage that you have second copies. New players have a FAR better advantage in tournaments than higher ranked players. Div 10/9/8/7 can easily gain 400+ points a match, not many Div1, 300k+ XP players are doing that .. some 300s here and there but they aren't easily able to do ~4800 pts without much effort that the lower divs can. If they (lower) do it correctly they can do 9000 + without much hassle. Since global launch in each bracket so far I've had maybe 1 other div 1 player, a mid div player and everyone else 8 or 9.. and they easily rank the points higher in a few matches. This last round I played a total of 15 matches, wasnt worth chasing people who can play 3-4 matches and double my point output. Tournaments are the only place I will see the influx of new accounts since MM is more based on XP. I'm curious long term if they really have the edge if they play the tournaments correctly and obtain the resources at a better rate. Simply brackets need redone, badly. I agree that players should only be in the same heat if they have similar XP, yea. I thought they might implement that for global release, but they didn't. I also agree that my account is an exception rather than the rule. The gap between a 6.7 and 6.3 bot is super big now. From what I've seen, most new players are actually pretty bad at the game, and they also don't know how beneficial tourney is, so they don't play for the full hour after last minute registration. It's the ones who pay for gear who are able to consistently put up 400+. Out of curiosity, when do you usually register for tourney? For me, I've found a time that I start at that consistently gives me at most one or two tough players (all w/ high XP) in my heat. Us late starting players pretty much all know each other by now, we all know when we like to start, and we'll actually coordinate to avoid each other (e.g. if someone plans to start at a different time than usual, we'll DM each other). In fact, I even have agreements with a couple of players to not hunt each other if we face each other in battle, b/c we're both just trying to get as many points as possible. |
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Post by nocluevok on Aug 24, 2021 6:23:14 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat. There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr. The last hour for me is around 2am. 🙄 |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Aug 24, 2021 7:21:57 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat. There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr. The last hour for me is around 2am. 🙄 My issue as well.. so I use to start a match early in the AM like 7-8AM and it use to do well; I'd play for a few at night as by then usually I would have an idea of where people were points wise. The majority would be DIV1 players with a few stragglers so it wasn't that bad. Now starting early doesnt seem to help as they are all low div. It would make more sense to start later and get the uninformed new players and not give them a lot of time to gap me.. but.. I value sleep more than acoins. |
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Post by BigBear on Aug 24, 2021 7:24:31 GMT -5
I exclusively play tournament in the last hour. I've noticed that heats fill up faster, and the quality of opposition in my heats is lower than before. I'm able to build up insurmountable leads more quickly than before, which means that I have to play fewer games to win a given heat. There are definitely pay to play players out there w/ low XP and paid accounts, but the ones that joined after global are at a disadvantage because they don't have 2nd copies of bots, whereas I've got 2 each of fully maxed killshots panthers guardians, as well as a zephyr. The last hour for me is around 2am. 🙄 And that's why I can't take tournament seriously,you can't have a global release of a game set in one single time zone,and a game mode that finishes the same time globally.That was something I hoped Plarium was going to look at before release as it has always been a big issue among the player base but it continues to favour players on one single continent. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 24, 2021 8:32:25 GMT -5
The last hour for me is around 2am. 🙄 And that's why I can't take tournament seriously,you can't have a global release of a game set in one single time zone,and a game mode that finishes the same time globally.That was something I hoped Plarium was going to look at before release as it has always been a big issue among the player base but it continues to favour players on one single continent. I def had it out with the mods of their Discord over that, a while back, and I still see it mentioned, quite often. They really need to do something different, and they have to know it.
Frankly, they should change the name to Marathon, anyway. It's not a tournament by any definition I have seen.
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Post by reconnecting on Aug 25, 2021 11:32:48 GMT -5
It's not fair to have new players piling up more points easily in Tournament than veteran players. Plarium must lower the points they get or put them in a separate league. Maybe have leagues at every 500 or 1000 SP. I have seen top finishers in Tourney with a fraction of my SP, like a third or a quarter. Not fair.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 26, 2021 6:44:25 GMT -5
It's not fair to have new players piling up more points easily in Tournament than veteran players. Plarium must lower the points they get or put them in a separate league. Maybe have leagues at every 500 or 1000 SP. I have seen top finishers in Tourney with a fraction of my SP, like a third or a quarter. Not fair. You're at the point plarium wants people to spend money. They're at the point where plarium wants to hook people into the same "conpetetive" mindset so they'll spend money when they are where you're currently at. |
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 29, 2021 6:56:09 GMT -5
It's not fair to have new players piling up more points easily in Tournament than veteran players. Plarium must lower the points they get or put them in a separate league. Maybe have leagues at every 500 or 1000 SP. I have seen top finishers in Tourney with a fraction of my SP, like a third or a quarter. Not fair. Well, then consider that new players have to go through THIS on a regular basis, about one in three games. I'd say we're entitled to a little bit of compensation  Tournament opponents get worse if you collect serious points, btw.
This is division 5, so after roughly a week of playing I guess.
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