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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 26, 2021 12:26:37 GMT -5
There's always something in test server that gives rise to frustration, but as we can see, Pix knows how to push the edge of OP without the game becoming totally unplayable. Without a doubt there are many things that make the game unplayable sometimes, but many of us still keep going. You either adapt or take a break. Often there are comments made about certain features in War Robots that seem to come from only looking at it in the context of War Robots. So what I'd like to share here is some perspective by contrasting it with aspects of other games, because for me this helps me just accept what's going on.
In Call of Duty Mobile, there are drones that blow you up from outta nowhere; Vtol's that annihilate entire teams from the sky; airstrikes it is near impossible to avoid and so on. There are so many things in that game that can be frustrating, and like War Robots some matches are just a slaughter. That's how it goes.
In Mech Arena you have mechs that shut off your entire weapon system and put your special ability on reload; some immobilize your entire system and all you can do is stand there without firing. There are highly accurate rocket mortar that can take out a full health mech in cover and so on.
In Battle of Titans, the orbital strike, called in by the backpack called 'Beacon', does not give any indicators to telegraph to its target that bombs are incoming, so you can't completely evade them.
So to me, now seeing what's going on in the War Robots gameplay and the likelihood of airstrikes, its not surprising or really that frustrating because I'm used to this 「dookie」 from other games where it is the norm.
In contrast though, what we know so far about orbital strike is there are long countdown timers to prevent excessive strikes, and there is a ground indicator telegraphing to you the need to evade. Do phase shift, absorber, jump, dash, flight etc are possible evasive meneuvers. Hopefully they will set some reasonable limits on how many can be done at a time, distances, maybe some post-strike immunity like we have after being locked down. If the strikes are so overbearing that nearly all matches are unplayable, of course people will just throw their hands up and leave. But again, as we have seen, they push the OP to the edge and not beyond it. Sure, some people leave, lots of people leave, but lots of people stay and keep going don't they!
So lets see how it plays out. Worth keeping in mind too that the player uproar about drones has caused serious changes to drone system, so if the mothership orbital strike system is beyond unreasonable, just make a stink about it. Otherwise, we know that the game is what it is and all we can do is adjust or quit. If people are still playing, that means the game is still playable for them, and probably for you too.
Some people, you know who he is, makes their main objective and fun to use legacy equipment to take on new stuff, and I find that incredibly commendable. Not just the effort, but his perspective and attitude. So its good to get some perspective.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 26, 2021 13:55:07 GMT -5
And you can also now have Aegis shields for Titans. Who knows what else will be coming...... Think Giant Lance with Ancile.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 26, 2021 13:59:29 GMT -5
This will kill the game for me. I am often set against squads and they always single me out as the one to get. This means I will have 6 people striking me over and over.
DONE GAME OVER IM OUT when it happens.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 26, 2021 14:40:02 GMT -5
This will kill the game for me. I am often set against squads and they always single me out as the one to get. This means I will have 6 people striking me over and over. DONE GAME OVER IM OUT when it happens. Oh, I’m coming for ya! Me and whatever Kid-Equivalent junk piece of Mother「dookie*」 they dish out for free - *intentional typo
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 26, 2021 14:50:48 GMT -5
And you can also now have Aegis shields for Titans. Who knows what else will be coming...... Think Giant Lance with Ancile. I'm fresh off the long breaktime boat, so I'm not fully aware of all the content, but I'm not seeing aegis for Titans from this post, it says aegis for mothership. Are there also aegis for titans too?
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 26, 2021 15:38:59 GMT -5
And you can also now have Aegis shields for Titans. Who knows what else will be coming...... Think Giant Lance with Ancile. I'm fresh off the long breaktime boat, so I'm not fully aware of all the content, but I'm not seeing aegis for Titans from this post, it says aegis for mothership. Are there also aegis for titans too? Yes there are now Aegis shields from space for Titans and more slots. Also you will be able to level up the Ship to do more. What really scares me is the ship is a type so I assume there will be others that have even more slots for magic coming along. Go watch some vids from last weekends test server. Titans with Aegis weeeeeeeeee JACKs "Mothership" Aegis is referring to the aegis applied from space to your titan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 16:26:56 GMT -5
I am all for orbital strikes and artillery like Zennits. They serve a purpose and Orbital strike is more realistic then the magic abilities and other unexplained phenomena.
Weapon with 800m+ range, no one uses in champ. Gauss very rarely seen. Damage is good but still to slow for brawling. Orbital strike is another one.
Many games have this type of weapon, and this game has it in form of zenit but old and slow. Needs a new version to release. Just release no OP make like Gauss but little better.
Ther is heavy camping. My teams do not move at start. Guess whose gets beacons and die first. Games over in 2 min.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 17:34:20 GMT -5
Guess we wait and find out if shieldbreaker counters mama ship shields…..or if we will need to buy shieldbreaker mods for Titans…..
Let the good times roll!
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Post by Garbage game on Jul 26, 2021 18:36:33 GMT -5
There's always something in test server that gives rise to frustration, but as we can see, Pix knows how to push the edge of OP without the game becoming totally unplayable. I dunno, everyone having an Absorber Shield (soon Titans with Aegis and inevitably, Absorbers themselves once people invest into Titan Aegis), makes this game pretty unplayable. It's not like you can wait and bait out cooldowns either, since it's a giant cluster「fluffernutter」 and you don't know who's shield is who's.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 26, 2021 18:42:55 GMT -5
Guess we wait and find out if shieldbreaker counters mama ship shieldsâ¦..or if we will need to buy shieldbreaker mods for Titansâ¦.. Let the good times roll! Yeah, sometimes with Pix I feel like that moment in the Jim Carey Grinch movie when they picked him to be holiday cheerneister and were cramming pudding and chocolates in his mouth and it was so full but he said 'is that all you got, come on' and they kept shoving 「dookie」 in his mouth ð¤£
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 26, 2021 18:53:53 GMT -5
Garbage game yes, I hear that, but we keep playing and finding ways to destroy reds despite so many purple shields. For some, the current situation will be the benchmark for unplayable, but if you literally can never kill anything or in every match your entire hangar quickly gets insta-killed by multi-pronged airstrikes, that is what I'd consider totally unplayable. The Ares train aka 'purple pickle tickle' was sometimes unbeatable and made games somewhat unplayable, but we still kept going and found ways to deal with it. The hordes of unntouchable Leech clusters were such a nightmare that even top mega-spenders were telling Pixonic to fix the mess, yet we kept going and found ways to cope, yes!?! Cuz here we still are playing a complicated mess of a game, so something about it must be enjoyable. So my point about 'unplayable' refers mainly to conditions that prevent a player from being able to enjoy the game at all.
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Post by Garbage game on Jul 26, 2021 18:58:16 GMT -5
Garbage game yes, I hear that, but we keep playing and finding ways to destroy reds despite so many purple shields. For some, the current situation will be the benchmark for unplayable, but if you literally can never kill anything or in every match your entire hangar quickly gets insta-killed by multi-pronged airstrikes, that is what I'd consider totally unplayable. The Ares train aka 'purple pickle tickle' was sometimes unbeatable and made games somewhat unplayable, but we still kept going and found ways to deal with it. The hordes or untouchable Leech clusters were such a nightmare that even top mega-spenders were telling Pixonic to fix the mess, yet we kept going and found ways to cope, yes!?! Cuz here we still are playing a complicated mess of a game, so something about it must be enjoyable. So my point about 'unplayable' refers mainly to conditions that prevent a player from being able to enjoy the game at all. Highly doubt airstrikes will be gibbing people left and right. The constant proliferation of shields you can't shoot through are a gamebreaking problem. It was like that with Leech, but we're just getting deeper and deeper into a shooting game where you can't shoot people half the time.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 26, 2021 20:58:17 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 26, 2021 21:21:10 GMT -5
Bunch of 「fluffernutter」tards (game creators, not forum members ) Most (I believe) of the feedback from players is that they don't want this 「dookie」 in the game and you'd think they would have learned when there was a huge amount of players leaving when drones were introduced. Obviously numbers/dollars have bounced back since then so they are trying these shenanigans again with the motherships? No doubt this will benefit whales the most who will be able to charge up their orbital strikes a lot faster than the lower tier players.
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Post by Garbage game on Jul 27, 2021 0:05:23 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. The mega-tank Fenrir is AIDs because of advanced healing and an Absorber that appears every time you deal 70k damage to it...Among other things, like DR when using Healing modules and etc. Even an early Titan drop, which is what I usually do against Mega-tanks, is useless because of all the damn Purple shields.
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Post by Alphabet Soup on Jul 27, 2021 1:15:42 GMT -5
Just think.. 4-6 players within a few seconds send a strike on a Arthur hiding behind a wall.....
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 27, 2021 8:25:50 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. Same here and I just stop firing and wait for the shield to end or run inside it. The tanks with all the magic though are getting very old. And from what I have heard there is something in the works for the invader to make it even more of a pain. Thinking it might be a pilot but not sure. I miss the old days of running Galahads, Carnages and Griffs. Back when OMG I can jump was a far out wow feature LOL!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 27, 2021 9:03:38 GMT -5
Most (I believe) of the f eedback from players is that they don't want this 「dookie」 in the game and you'd think they would have learned... Spectre: "We don't want this!" Boosters: "We don't want this!" Ares: "We don't want this!" Shieldbreaker: "Ok, this is cool..." <== outlier, can be dismissed. Green Crack Pipe: "We don't want this!" Titans: "We don't want this!" Drones: "We don't want this!" Drones v2: "We still don't want this!" Orbital Strike: "We don't want this!" I dunno know what you think but statistically speaking I believe this is officially a "trend." ѻﻭɼﻉ : You are right about "We'll find a way to turn a blnd eye/adapt to the poo show and soldier on..." but they are in full whale-cashectomy mode now. I haaaaaated French AMs and yet now I look for new and inventive ways to take them down sans prejudice. That IS kinda fun IMHO. I'll still play but there is NO way I'm gonna try to surf the top of the meta curve. TOO MUCH $$$ for that.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 27, 2021 12:10:59 GMT -5
I didn't mention in the op, but I am opposed to the orbital strike and motherships, as I was about drones, pilots, active modules and so on. In the past people mistook some of my writings to be shilling and promotional, but my intention is just to share perspectives that help me adjust to the bull「dookie」 and be less frustrated. Despite my comparison to other games already having these things, Pixonic has overcomplicated this game with too many layers and imbalanced calculations, so I don't like the prospect of this next revenue stream of motherships with OP effects. But as Oliver pointed out, they never listen to the community about content release. They may tweak it a bit based on our responses, but if its in test server, it is almost certain it will appear in live server at some point, and how to cope with that was purpose of the op.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 27, 2021 13:20:12 GMT -5
Me So Pix you think I will figure out a way to handle this..... Pix
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Post by wrampager1 on Jul 27, 2021 13:50:04 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. Same here and I just stop firing and wait for the shield to end or run inside it. The tanks with all the magic though are getting very old. And from what I have heard there is something in the works for the invader to make it even more of a pain. Thinking it might be a pilot but not sure. I miss the old days of running Galahads, Carnages and Griffs. Back when OMG I can jump was a far out wow feature LOL! Back when OMG I can jump was a far out wow feature LOL!
yep when robots actually had specialties
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Post by BB on Jul 27, 2021 14:20:16 GMT -5
My perspective
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 27, 2021 15:51:47 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. Same here and I just stop firing and wait for the shield to end or run inside it. The tanks with all the magic though are getting very old What is frustrating is it seems that 70k damage to a fenrir does not factor in the resistance so the purple shield pops up every 8 seconds or so even though you are barely tickling their health bar. I've sat there for minutes on end fighting those clowns only to be "credited" with doing SFA damage at the end of a game because it was based off the lower resistance calculated damage.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 27, 2021 16:09:29 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. The new acid weapon will take care of 'em for a mere arm and a leg..... if you have any left.
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Post by easystrider on Jul 28, 2021 20:10:00 GMT -5
This will kill the game for me. I am often set against squads and they always single me out as the one to get. This means I will have 6 people striking me over and over. DONE GAME OVER IM OUT when it happens. Oh, no worries, that will not happen. I was watching Islander's video where he was sharing rumors of a new robot, a one that will be able to teleport enemies to himself. So instead they'll get close enough and "pass you around" among themselves. Why bother with OS? Note: the name of that robot supposedly will be "rasputin", so I'm still hoping it's a joke.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 29, 2021 8:29:44 GMT -5
This will kill the game for me. I am often set against squads and they always single me out as the one to get. This means I will have 6 people striking me over and over. DONE GAME OVER IM OUT when it happens. Oh, no worries, that will not happen. I was watching Islander's video where he was sharing rumors of a new robot, a one that will be able to teleport enemies to himself. So instead they'll get close enough and "pass you around" among themselves. Why bother with OS? Note: the name of that robot supposedly will be "rasputin", so I'm still hoping it's a joke. Oh boy just like prison sex huh! Who could want more from a game!
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 29, 2021 8:37:51 GMT -5
Bunch of 「fluffernutter」tards (game creators, not forum members ) Most (I believe) of the feedback from players is that they don't want this 「dookie」 in the game and you'd think they would have learned when there was a huge amount of players leaving when drones were introduced. Obviously numbers/dollars have bounced back since then so they are trying these shenanigans again with the motherships? No doubt this will benefit whales the most who will be able to charge up their orbital strikes a lot faster than the lower tier players. But it actually doesn’t benefit whales the most. It forces them to spend to keep up with other whales. The High Rollers can already kill me 3x over. A solid High Roller duo is practically guaranteed to win vs randoms. Adding more power won’t change that AT ALL. I’ll keep banging my drum: all big spending is only for whale-on-whale action; it does not change the game for F2P and casual spenders.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 29, 2021 8:40:08 GMT -5
Garbage game no denying that! Right now I'm actually finding the indestructible Shells and stupid mega-tank Fenrirs more frustrating than purple shields tbh. At least you can use shieldbreaker or get under purple skirts. The mega-tank Fenrir is AIDs because of advanced healing and an Absorber that appears every time you deal 70k damage to it...Among other things, like DR when using Healing modules and etc. Even an early Titan drop, which is what I usually do against Mega-tanks, is useless because of all the damn Purple shields. And don’t forget Suppression chips. A well equipped Fen w Drone support can go 1 v 1 with a high level Arty…and win.
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Post by Joopiter on Jul 29, 2021 9:09:04 GMT -5
I don't think I saw it mentioned yet but it won't just be limited to damage and shields from above. You'll also be sending heals from the orbit.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 29, 2021 9:16:36 GMT -5
Bunch of 「fluffernutter」tards (game creators, not forum members ) Most (I believe) of the feedback from players is that they don't want this 「dookie」 in the game and you'd think they would have learned when there was a huge amount of players leaving when drones were introduced. Obviously numbers/dollars have bounced back since then so they are trying these shenanigans again with the motherships? No doubt this will benefit whales the most who will be able to charge up their orbital strikes a lot faster than the lower tier players. But it actually doesn’t benefit whales the most. It forces them to spend to keep up with other whales. The High Rollers can already kill me 3x over. A solid High Roller duo is practically guaranteed to win vs randoms. Adding more power won’t change that AT ALL. I’ll keep banging my drum: all big spending is only for whale-on-whale action; it does not change the game for F2P and casual spenders. Even a maxed Duo is about 60 to 70 % now if lucky. You will get lots of tanker blues and or hit full or bigger red squads. Time of play also makes a huge difference. My pre work games solo it is unusually one champ on each team and 5 masters. All I do is go for the toughest red to make sure he doesn't slaughter my blues. I win most of these games. Then on my lunch run solo I normally hit multiple Red power champs and am lucky to win 1 in 3. It is as it has always been the matchmakers making winners and losers.
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